Is it possible that some sikhs have muslim ancestry?

[Malghani]

They could be called kind of "Kachay musalman" (nominaly muslims) so it is quite possible that some of the sikhs (some clans of jatts perhaps) were nominally muslims before getting into sikhism

It is commonly believed that Guru Nanak was a muslim and he never mentioned in his life that he is a Prophet. He also Performed Haj. He always said that Malik sirf aik hy. Sikhs are Monotheist, but they confuse it by doing sajoods to the graves of their Gurus, which is not even stated in their holy book which are the quotes of Guru Nanak.
Sikhism is a non-Semitic, Aryan, non-Vedic religion. It is a religion that has the sixth largest following in the world. Some consider it as an offshoot of Hinduism. It was founded by Guru Nanak at the end of the 15th century. It originated in the area of Pakistan and North West India called Punjab, meaning the land of the five rivers. Guru Nanak was born in a Kshatriya (warrior caste) Hindu family but was very strongly influenced by Islam and Muslims.

DEFINITION OF SIKH AND SIKHISM

The word ‘Sikh’ is derived from the word sisya meaning disciple or follower. Sikhism is a religion of ten Gurus, the first Guru being Guru Nanak and the tenth and the last being Guru Gobind Singh. The sacred book of Sikhism is Sri Guru Granth also called Adi Granth Sahib.

THE FIVE – ‘K’s

Every Sikh is supposed to keep the following five ‘K’s, which also serve to identify him as a Sikh:

Kesh – uncut hair.

Kanga – comb; used to keep the hair clean.

Kada – metal or steel bangle; for strength and self-restraint.

Kirpan – dagger; for self-defence.

Kaccha – special knee length underwear or under-drawer for agility.

CONCEPT OF GOD IN SIKHISM
MULMANTRA: THE FUNDAMENTAL CREED OF SIKHISM

The best definition that any Sikh can give regarding the concept of God in Sikhism is to quote the Mulmantra – the fundamental creed of Sikhism, which occurs at the beginning of Sri Guru Granth Sahib.

It is mentioned in Sri Guru Granth Sahib, volume 1 Japuji, the first verse:

"There exists but one God, who is called The True, The Creator, Free from fear and hate, Immortal, Not begotten, Self-Existent, Great and Compassionate."

Sikhism is a monotheistic Religion

Sikhism enjoins its followers to practise strict monotheism. It believes in only One Supreme God who is, in the unmanifest form, called Ek Omkara.

In the manifest form He is called Omkara and has several attributes such as:

Kartar – The Creator
Akal – The Eternal
Sattanama – The Holy Name
Sahib – The Lord
Parvardigar – The Cherisher
Rahim – The Merciful
Karim – The Benevolent

He is also called Wahe Guru – the One true God.

Besides Sikhism being strictly monotheistic, it also does not believe in Avataravada – the doctrine of incarnation. Almighty God does not incarnate Himself in what is known as Avatara. Sikhism is also strongly against idol worship.

Guru Nanak was influenced by Sant Kabir

Guru Nanak was influenced by the sayings of Sant Kabir so much that several chapters of Sri Guru Granth Sahib contain couplets of Sant Kabir.

One of the famous couplets of Sant Kabir is:

"Dukh mein sumirana sabh karein
Sukh mein karein na koya
Jo sukh mein sumirana karein
To dukh kaye hoye?"

"In times of trouble, God is remembered by all
But none remembers Him during peace and happiness.
If God is remembered in good times of happiness
Why should trouble occur?"

Compare this with the following verse of the Qur’an:

"When some trouble toucheth man,
He crieth unto his Lord,
Turning to Him in repentance:
But when He bestoweth
A favour upon him
As from Himself,
(Man) doth forget what he cried
And prayed for before,
And he doth set up
Rivals unto Allah."
[Al-Qur’an 39:8]

Be Truthful, Live honestly, Good will to all

ਪੰਜਿ ਨਿਵਾਜਾ ਵਖਤ ਪੰਜਿ ਪੰਜਾ ਪੰਜੇ ਨਾਉ ॥
ਪਹਿਲਾ ਸਚ੝ ਹਲਾਲ ਦ੝ਇ ਤੀਜਾ ਖੈਰ ਖ੝ਦਾਇ ॥ ਚਉਥੀ ਨੀਅਤਿ ਰਾਸਿ ਮਨ੝ ਪੰਜਵੀ ਸਿਫਤਿ ਸਨਾਇ ॥
ਕਰਣੀ ਕਲਮਾ ਆਖਿ ਕੈ ਤਾ ਮ੝ਸਲਮਾਣ੝ ਸਦਾਇ ॥ ਨਾਨਕ ਜੇਤੇ ਕੂੜਿਆਰ ਕੂੜੈ ਕੂੜੀ ਪਾਇ ॥੩॥

Panj nivĝjĝ vakẖaṯ panj panjĝ panje nĝ▫o.
Pahilĝ sacẖ halĝl ḝu▫e ṯījĝ kẖair kẖuḝĝ▫e. Cẖa▫uthī nī▫aṯ rĝs man panjvī sifaṯ sanĝ▫e.
Karṇī kalmĝ ĝkẖ kai ṯĝ musalmĝṇ saḝĝ▫e. Nĝnak jeṯe kūṛi▫ĝr kūrhai kūṛī pĝ▫e. (3)

There are five prayers and five times of day for prayer; the five have five names.
Let the first be truthfulness, the second honest living, and the third charity in the Name of God.
Let the fourth be good will to all, and the fifth the praise of the Lord.
Repeat the prayer of good deeds, and then, you may call yourself a Muslim.
O Nanak, the false obtain falsehood, and only falsehood.
Becoming a true Muslim

ਮ੝ਸਲਮਾਣ੝ ਕਹਾਵਣ੝ ਮ੝ਸਕਲ੝ ਜਾ ਹੋਇ ਤਾ ਮ੝ਸਲਮਾਣ੝ ਕਹਾਵੈ ॥
ਅਵਲਿ ਅਉਲਿ ਦੀਨ੝ ਕਰਿ ਮਿਠਾ ਮਸਕਲ ਮਾਨਾ ਮਾਲ੝ ਮ੝ਸਾਵੈ ॥ ਹੋਇ ਮ੝ਸਲਿਮ੝ ਦੀਨ ਮ੝ਹਾਣੈ ਮਰਣ ਜੀਵਣ ਕਾ ਭਰਮ੝ ਚ੝ਕਾਵੈ ॥
ਰਬ ਕੀ ਰਜਾਇ ਮੰਨੇ ਸਿਰ ਉਪਰਿ ਕਰਤਾ ਮੰਨੇ ਆਪ੝ ਗਵਾਵੈ ॥ ਤਉ ਨਾਨਕ ਸਰਬ ਜੀਆ ਮਿਹਰੰਮਤਿ ਹੋਇ ਤ ਮ੝ਸਲਮਾਣ੝ ਕਹਾਵੈ ॥੧॥

Musalmĝṇ kahĝvaṇ muskal jĝ ho▫e ṯĝ musalmĝṇ kahĝvai.
Aval a▫ul ḝīn kar miṯẖĝ maskal mĝnĝ mĝl musĝvai. Ho▫e muslim ḝīn muhĝṇai maraṇ jīvaṇ kĝ bẖaram cẖukẖĝvai.
Rab kī rajĝ▫e manne sir upar karṯĝ manne ĝp gavĝvai. Ŧa▫o Nĝnak sarab jī▫ĝ mihramaṯ ho▫e ṯa musalmĝṇ kahĝvai. (1)

It is difficult to be called a Muslim; if one is truly a Muslim, then he may be called one.
First, let him savor the religion of the Prophet as sweet; then, let his pride of his possessions be scraped away.
Becoming a true Muslim, a disciple of the faith of Mohammed, let him put aside the delusion of death and life.
As he submits to God's Will, and surrenders to the Creator, he is rid of selfishness and conceit.
And when, O Nanak, he is merciful to all beings, only then shall he be called a Muslim. (1)

Allah is hidden in every heart
ਰੋਜਾ ਧਰੈ ਮਨਾਵੈ ਅਲਹ੝ ਸ੝ਆਦਤਿ ਜੀਅ ਸੰਘਾਰੈ ॥ ਆਪਾ ਦੇਖਿ ਅਵਰ ਨਹੀ ਦੇਖੈ ਕਾਹੇ ਕਉ ਝਖ ਮਾਰੈ ॥੧॥
ਕਾਜੀ ਸਾਹਿਬ੝ ਝਕ੝ ਤੋਹੀ ਮਹਿ ਤੇਰਾ ਸੋਚਿ ਬਿਚਾਰਿ ਨ ਦੇਖੈ ॥ ਖਬਰਿ ਨ ਕਰਹਿ ਦੀਨ ਕੇ ਬਉਰੇ ਤਾ ਤੇ ਜਨਮ੝ ਅਲੇਖੈ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥
ਸਾਚ੝ ਕਤੇਬ ਬਖਾਨੈ ਅਲਹ੝ ਨਾਰਿ ਪ੝ਰਖ੝ ਨਹੀ ਕੋਈ ॥ ਪਢੇ ਗ੝ਨੇ ਨਾਹੀ ਕਛ੝ ਬਉਰੇ ਜਉ ਦਿਲ ਮਹਿ ਖਬਰਿ ਨ ਹੋਈ ॥੨॥
ਅਲਹ੝ ਗੈਬ੝ ਸਗਲ ਘਟ ਭੀਤਰਿ ਹਿਰਦੈ ਲੇਹ੝ ਬਿਚਾਰੀ ॥ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਤ੝ਰਕ ਦ੝ਹੂੰ ਮਹਿ ਝਕੈ ਕਹੈ ਕਬੀਰ ਪ੝ਕਾਰੀ ॥੩॥੭॥੨੯॥

Rojĝ ḝẖarai manĝvai alhu su▫ĝḝaṯ jī▫a sangẖĝrai. Āpĝ ḝekẖ avar nahī ḝekẖai kĝhe ka▫o jẖakẖ mĝrai. (1)
Kĝjī sĝhib ek ṯohī mėh ṯerĝ socẖ bicẖĝr na ḝekẖai. Kẖabar na karahi ḝīn ke ba▫ure ṯĝ ṯe janam alekẖai. (1)rahĝ▫o.
Sĝcẖ kaṯeb bakẖĝnai alhu nĝr purakẖ nahī ko▫ī. Padẖe gune nĝhī kacẖẖ ba▫ure ja▫o ḝil mėh kẖabar na ho▫ī. (2)
Alhu gaib sagal gẖat bẖīṯar hirḝai leho bicẖĝrī. Hinḝū ṯurak duhū▫aʼn mėh ekai kahai Kabīr pukĝrī. (3)(7)(29)

You keep your fasts to please Allah, while you murder other beings for pleasure.
You look after your own interests, and so not see the interests of others. What good is your word? (1)
O Qazi, the One Lord is within you, but you do not behold Him by thought or contemplation.
You do not care for others, you are a religious fanatic, and your life is of no account at all. (1)(Pause)
Your holy scriptures say that Allah is True, and that he is neither male nor female.
But you gain nothing by reading and studying, O mad-man, if you do not gain the understanding in your heart. (2)
Allah is hidden in every heart; reflect upon this in your mind.
The One Lord is within both Hindu and Muslim; Kabeer proclaims this out loud. (3)(7)(29)
Sri Granth: Sri Guru Granth Sahib
Sri Granth: Sri Guru Granth Sahib
Sri Granth: Sri Guru Granth Sahib

The Sikh scriptures therefore emphasise monotheism and God-consciousness. What are your views about this @Sidak @DARIUS @Aeronaut ?

 

[Nexus]

muslim ancestry?? now OP will ost that Indians Hindus also have muslim ancestry

 

[Kompromat]

I'm about to start reading Granth Sahib.

Holy Quran
Holy Bible
Holy Torah
Rigvedas
Purnayen
Gita
Mahabharatha
The Book of Morman.

All of them, i've read already.

 

[Malghani]

You are funny as ****, It is just like saying Muhammed was a jew.

Prophet Moses, Jesus and all the Prophets were Muslims, All the Prophets spread the Word of one and only God. It's another topic that Muslims believe the previous scriptures were altered. Please respect the religions. As i respect yours. Cheers

 

[MOHSENAM]

@Malghani

The truth about zion Indian seriall trolls:

Israel creates online troll army "Hasbara" -RT

 

[Malghani]

So trolls like you have a power to give negative ranking ? Have you got this professional tag to talk about religion ? Your post was insulting towards Sikhs. We feel disgusting when people get a thought that Sikhism has anything to do with Islam.

I pasted the source of their Holy Book. I don't think it was an insult. I am not saying anything from my side. It's the Granth (Their Holy Book) saying that.

 

[Marwat Khan Lodhi]

Zabita khan , the rohilla chief, converted to sikhism - although temperorily - after rohilkhund was invaded and destroyed by combined forces of british and awadh. He adopted the name of dharam singh and enjoyed support of sikhs for some years. Later he reconciled with mughals and gave up on sikhism.

 

[Malghani]

Please don't tell about your religion ? Check when Islam came into existence and then check about Judaism and Christanity. Religion was not there but Moses and Jesus was muslim. Lol.

Islam was there since the day one of the creation of this World. Prophet Adam was a Muslim. Please read your Holy Book. Or you want me to quote your Holy Books ?

 

[MOHSENAM]

Islam was there since the day one of the creation of this World. Prophet Adam was a Muslim. Please read your Holy Book. Or you want me to quote your Holy Books ?

U are very sane person, man.

 

[Malghani]

Please don't tell about your religion ? Check when Islam came into existence and then check about Judaism and Christanity. Religion was not there but Moses and Jesus was muslim. Lol.

Concept of God according to Hindu Scriptures:

We can gain a better understanding of the concept of God in Hinduism by analysing Hindu scriptures.

BHAGAVAD GITA:

The most popular amongst all the Hindu scriptures is the Bhagavad Gita.

Consider the following verse from the Gita:

"Those whose intelligence has been stolen by material desires surrender unto demigods and follow the particular rules and regulations of worship according to their own natures."
[Bhagavad Gita 7:20]

The Gita states that people who are materialistic worship demigods i.e. ‘gods’ besides the True God.

UPANISHADS:

The Upanishads are considered sacred scriptures by the Hindus.

The following verses from the Upanishads refer to the Concept of God:

1. "Ekam evadvitiyam"
"He is One only without a second."
[Chandogya Upanishad 6:2:1]1

2. "Na casya kascij janita na cadhipah."
"Of Him there are neither parents nor lord."
[Svetasvatara Upanishad 6:9]2

3. "Na tasya pratima asti"
"There is no likeness of Him."
[Svetasvatara Upanishad 4:19]3

4. The following verses from the Upanishad allude to the inability of man to imagine God in a particular form:

"Na samdrse tisthati rupam asya, na caksusa pasyati kas canainam."

"His form is not to be seen; no one sees Him with the eye."
[Svetasvatara Upanishad 4:20]4

1 [The Principal Upanishad by S. Radhakrishnan page 447 and 448]
[Sacred Books of the East, volume 1 ‘The Upanishads part I’ page 93]

2 [The Principal Upanishad by S. Radhakrishnan page 745]
[Sacred Books of the East, volume 15, ‘The Upanishads part II’ page 263.]

3 [The Principal Upanishad by S. Radhakrishnan page 736 & 737]
[Sacred Books of the East, volume 15, ‘The Upanishads part II’ page no 253]

4 [The Principal Upanishad by S. Radhakrishnan page 737]
[Sacred Books of the East, volume 15, ‘The Upanishads part II’ page no 253]

THE VEDAS
Vedas are considered the most sacred of all the Hindu scriptures. There are four principal Vedas: Rigveda, Yajurveda, Samveda and Atharvaveda.

1. Yajurveda
The following verses from the Yajurveda echo a similar concept of God:

1. "na tasya pratima asti"
"There is no image of Him."
[Yajurveda 32:3]5

2. "shudhama poapvidham"
"He is bodyless and pure."
[Yajurveda 40:8]6

3. "Andhatama pravishanti ye asambhuti mupaste"
"They enter darkness, those who worship the natural elements" (Air, Water, Fire, etc.). "They sink
deeper in darkness, those who worship sambhuti."
[Yajurveda 40:9]7

4. Sambhuti means created things, for example table, chair, idol, etc.

The Yajurveda contains the following prayer:
"Lead us to the good path and remove the sin that makes us stray and wander."
[Yajurveda 40:16]8

5[Yajurveda by Devi Chand M.A. page 377]

6[Yajurveda Samhita by Ralph T. H. Giffith page 538]

7[Yajurveda Samhita by Ralph T. H. Giffith page 538]

8[Yajurveda Samhita by Ralph T. H. Griffith page 541]

2. Atharvaveda

The Atharvaveda praises God in Book 20, hymn 58 and verse 3:
1. "Dev maha osi"
"God is verily great"
[Atharvaveda 20:58:3]9

3. Rigveda
1. The oldest of all the vedas is Rigveda. It is also the one considered most sacred by the Hindus.
The Rigveda states in Book 1, hymn 164 and verse 46: "Sages (learned Priests) call one God by many
names."
[Rigveda 1:164:46]

2. The Rigveda gives several different attributes to Almighty God. Many of these are mentioned in
Rigveda Book 2 hymn 1.

Among the various attributes of God, one of the beautiful attributes mentioned in the Rigveda Book II hymn 1 verse 3, is Brahma. Brahma means ‘The Creator’. Translated into Arabic it means Khaaliq. Muslims can have no objection if Almighty God is referred to as Khaaliq or ‘Creator’ or Brahma. However if it is said that Brahma is Almighty God who has four heads with each head having a crown, Muslims take strong exception to it.

Describing Almighty God in anthropomorphic terms also goes against the following verse of Yajurveda:

"Na tasya Pratima asti"
"There is no image of Him."
[Yajurveda 32:3]

Another beautiful attribute of God mentioned in the Rigveda Book II hymn 1 verse 3 is Vishnu. Vishnu means ‘The Sustainer’. Translated into Arabic it means Rabb. Again, Muslims can have no objection if Almighty God is referred to as Rabb or 'Sustainer' or Vishnu. But the popular image of

9[Atharveda Samhita vol 2 William Dwight Whitney page 910]

Vishnu among Hindus, is that of a God who has four arms, with one of the right arms holding the Chakra, i.e. a discus and one of the left arms holding a ‘conch shell’, or riding a bird or reclining on a snake couch. Muslims can never accept any image of God. As mentioned earlier this also goes against Svetasvatara Upanishad Chapter 4 verse 19.

"Na tasya pratima asti"
"There is no likeness of Him"

The following verse from the Rigveda Book 8, hymn 1, verse 1 refer to the Unity and Glory of the Supreme Being:

3. "Ma cid anyad vi sansata sakhayo ma rishanyata"
"O friends, do not worship anybody but Him, the Divine One. Praise Him alone."
[Rigveda 8:1:1]10

4. "Devasya samituk parishtutih"
"Verily, great is the glory of the Divine Creator."
[Rigveda 5:1:81]11

Brahma Sutra of Hinduism:

The Brahma Sutra of Hinduism is:

"Ekam Brahm, dvitiya naste neh na naste kinchan"

"There is only one God, not the second; not at all, not at all, not in the least bit."

Thus only a dispassionate study of the Hindu scriptures can help one understand the concept of God in Hinduism.

0[Rigveda Samhita vol. 9, pages 2810 and 2811 by Swami Satya Prakash Sarasvati and Satyakam Vidyalankar]

11[Rigveda Samhita vol. 6, pages 1802 and 1803 by Swami Satya Prakash Saraswati and Satyakam Vidyalankar]

as from the sun." The Prophecy confirms:

1. The name of the Prophet as Ahmed since Ahmed is an Arabic name. Many translators misunderstood it to be ‘Ahm at hi’ and translated the mantra as "I alone have acquired the real wisdom of my father".

2. Prophet was given eternal law, i.e. the Shariah.

3. The Rishi was enlightened by the Shariah of Prophet Muhammad. The Qur’an says in Surah Saba Chapter 34 verse 28 (34:28):

"We have not sent thee but as a universal (Messenger) to men, giving them glad tidings and warning them (against sin), but most men understand not."

 

[RazPaK]

so jatts in central and northern punjab have weak iman?

 

[Joe Shearer]

Islam was there since the day one of the creation of this World. Prophet Adam was a Muslim. Please read your Holy Book. Or you want me to quote your Holy Books ?

There is a difference between religious myth and reality.

 

[Parul]

@Malghani Many religions have similarities of some kind in their pages of books they all go by. Calling Guru Nanak a Muslim is as absurd as calling Muhammad a Pagan Worshiper (by no way, I mean to disrespect Islam or Muhammad, just trying to point out how stupid does it sounds) - You don't know anything about Sikhism, so better refrain yourself from posting about it. He was not the only Non-Muslim to visit Mecca - Just do a little Google Search ' Non Muslims visiting Mecca' - you'll get your answer.....


Religion is something Personal and one should leave it at home. Let's leave it on Scholars to debate on it.....Further, religious discussions are not allowed at DEFENCE.PK & I'm out of this thread....

 

[KingMamba]

It is commonly believed that Guru Nanak was a muslim and he never mentioned in his life that he is a Prophet. He also Performed Haj. He always said that Malik sirf aik hy. Sikhs are Monotheist, but they confuse it by doing sajoods to the graves of their Gurus, which is not even stated in their holy book which are the quotes of Guru Nanak.
Sikhism is a non-Semitic, Aryan, non-Vedic religion. It is a religion that has the sixth largest following in the world. Some consider it as an offshoot of Hinduism. It was founded by Guru Nanak at the end of the 15th century. It originated in the area of Pakistan and North West India called Punjab, meaning the land of the five rivers. Guru Nanak was born in a Kshatriya (warrior caste) Hindu family but was very strongly influenced by Islam and Muslims.

DEFINITION OF SIKH AND SIKHISM

The word ‘Sikh’ is derived from the word sisya meaning disciple or follower. Sikhism is a religion of ten Gurus, the first Guru being Guru Nanak and the tenth and the last being Guru Gobind Singh. The sacred book of Sikhism is Sri Guru Granth also called Adi Granth Sahib.

THE FIVE – ‘K’s

Every Sikh is supposed to keep the following five ‘K’s, which also serve to identify him as a Sikh:

Kesh – uncut hair.

Kanga – comb; used to keep the hair clean.

Kada – metal or steel bangle; for strength and self-restraint.

Kirpan – dagger; for self-defence.

Kaccha – special knee length underwear or under-drawer for agility.

CONCEPT OF GOD IN SIKHISM
MULMANTRA: THE FUNDAMENTAL CREED OF SIKHISM

The best definition that any Sikh can give regarding the concept of God in Sikhism is to quote the Mulmantra – the fundamental creed of Sikhism, which occurs at the beginning of Sri Guru Granth Sahib.

It is mentioned in Sri Guru Granth Sahib, volume 1 Japuji, the first verse:

"There exists but one God, who is called The True, The Creator, Free from fear and hate, Immortal, Not begotten, Self-Existent, Great and Compassionate."

Sikhism is a monotheistic Religion

Sikhism enjoins its followers to practise strict monotheism. It believes in only One Supreme God who is, in the unmanifest form, called Ek Omkara.

In the manifest form He is called Omkara and has several attributes such as:

Kartar – The Creator
Akal – The Eternal
Sattanama – The Holy Name
Sahib – The Lord
Parvardigar – The Cherisher
Rahim – The Merciful
Karim – The Benevolent

He is also called Wahe Guru – the One true God.

Besides Sikhism being strictly monotheistic, it also does not believe in Avataravada – the doctrine of incarnation. Almighty God does not incarnate Himself in what is known as Avatara. Sikhism is also strongly against idol worship.

Guru Nanak was influenced by Sant Kabir

Guru Nanak was influenced by the sayings of Sant Kabir so much that several chapters of Sri Guru Granth Sahib contain couplets of Sant Kabir.

One of the famous couplets of Sant Kabir is:

"Dukh mein sumirana sabh karein
Sukh mein karein na koya
Jo sukh mein sumirana karein
To dukh kaye hoye?"

"In times of trouble, God is remembered by all
But none remembers Him during peace and happiness.
If God is remembered in good times of happiness
Why should trouble occur?"

Compare this with the following verse of the Qur’an:

"When some trouble toucheth man,
He crieth unto his Lord,
Turning to Him in repentance:
But when He bestoweth
A favour upon him
As from Himself,
(Man) doth forget what he cried
And prayed for before,
And he doth set up
Rivals unto Allah."
[Al-Qur’an 39:8]

Be Truthful, Live honestly, Good will to all

ਪੰਜਿ ਨਿਵਾਜਾ ਵਖਤ ਪੰਜਿ ਪੰਜਾ ਪੰਜੇ ਨਾਉ ॥
ਪਹਿਲਾ ਸਚ੝ ਹਲਾਲ ਦ੝ਇ ਤੀਜਾ ਖੈਰ ਖ੝ਦਾਇ ॥ ਚਉਥੀ ਨੀਅਤਿ ਰਾਸਿ ਮਨ੝ ਪੰਜਵੀ ਸਿਫਤਿ ਸਨਾਇ ॥
ਕਰਣੀ ਕਲਮਾ ਆਖਿ ਕੈ ਤਾ ਮ੝ਸਲਮਾਣ੝ ਸਦਾਇ ॥ ਨਾਨਕ ਜੇਤੇ ਕੂੜਿਆਰ ਕੂੜੈ ਕੂੜੀ ਪਾਇ ॥੩॥

Panj nivĝjĝ vakẖaṯ panj panjĝ panje nĝ▫o.
Pahilĝ sacẖ halĝl ḝu▫e ṯījĝ kẖair kẖuḝĝ▫e. Cẖa▫uthī nī▫aṯ rĝs man panjvī sifaṯ sanĝ▫e.
Karṇī kalmĝ ĝkẖ kai ṯĝ musalmĝṇ saḝĝ▫e. Nĝnak jeṯe kūṛi▫ĝr kūrhai kūṛī pĝ▫e. (3)

There are five prayers and five times of day for prayer; the five have five names.
Let the first be truthfulness, the second honest living, and the third charity in the Name of God.
Let the fourth be good will to all, and the fifth the praise of the Lord.
Repeat the prayer of good deeds, and then, you may call yourself a Muslim.
O Nanak, the false obtain falsehood, and only falsehood.
Becoming a true Muslim

ਮ੝ਸਲਮਾਣ੝ ਕਹਾਵਣ੝ ਮ੝ਸਕਲ੝ ਜਾ ਹੋਇ ਤਾ ਮ੝ਸਲਮਾਣ੝ ਕਹਾਵੈ ॥
ਅਵਲਿ ਅਉਲਿ ਦੀਨ੝ ਕਰਿ ਮਿਠਾ ਮਸਕਲ ਮਾਨਾ ਮਾਲ੝ ਮ੝ਸਾਵੈ ॥ ਹੋਇ ਮ੝ਸਲਿਮ੝ ਦੀਨ ਮ੝ਹਾਣੈ ਮਰਣ ਜੀਵਣ ਕਾ ਭਰਮ੝ ਚ੝ਕਾਵੈ ॥
ਰਬ ਕੀ ਰਜਾਇ ਮੰਨੇ ਸਿਰ ਉਪਰਿ ਕਰਤਾ ਮੰਨੇ ਆਪ੝ ਗਵਾਵੈ ॥ ਤਉ ਨਾਨਕ ਸਰਬ ਜੀਆ ਮਿਹਰੰਮਤਿ ਹੋਇ ਤ ਮ੝ਸਲਮਾਣ੝ ਕਹਾਵੈ ॥੧॥

Musalmĝṇ kahĝvaṇ muskal jĝ ho▫e ṯĝ musalmĝṇ kahĝvai.
Aval a▫ul ḝīn kar miṯẖĝ maskal mĝnĝ mĝl musĝvai. Ho▫e muslim ḝīn muhĝṇai maraṇ jīvaṇ kĝ bẖaram cẖukẖĝvai.
Rab kī rajĝ▫e manne sir upar karṯĝ manne ĝp gavĝvai. Ŧa▫o Nĝnak sarab jī▫ĝ mihramaṯ ho▫e ṯa musalmĝṇ kahĝvai. (1)

It is difficult to be called a Muslim; if one is truly a Muslim, then he may be called one.
First, let him savor the religion of the Prophet as sweet; then, let his pride of his possessions be scraped away.
Becoming a true Muslim, a disciple of the faith of Mohammed, let him put aside the delusion of death and life.
As he submits to God's Will, and surrenders to the Creator, he is rid of selfishness and conceit.
And when, O Nanak, he is merciful to all beings, only then shall he be called a Muslim. (1)

Allah is hidden in every heart
ਰੋਜਾ ਧਰੈ ਮਨਾਵੈ ਅਲਹ੝ ਸ੝ਆਦਤਿ ਜੀਅ ਸੰਘਾਰੈ ॥ ਆਪਾ ਦੇਖਿ ਅਵਰ ਨਹੀ ਦੇਖੈ ਕਾਹੇ ਕਉ ਝਖ ਮਾਰੈ ॥੧॥
ਕਾਜੀ ਸਾਹਿਬ੝ ਝਕ੝ ਤੋਹੀ ਮਹਿ ਤੇਰਾ ਸੋਚਿ ਬਿਚਾਰਿ ਨ ਦੇਖੈ ॥ ਖਬਰਿ ਨ ਕਰਹਿ ਦੀਨ ਕੇ ਬਉਰੇ ਤਾ ਤੇ ਜਨਮ੝ ਅਲੇਖੈ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥
ਸਾਚ੝ ਕਤੇਬ ਬਖਾਨੈ ਅਲਹ੝ ਨਾਰਿ ਪ੝ਰਖ੝ ਨਹੀ ਕੋਈ ॥ ਪਢੇ ਗ੝ਨੇ ਨਾਹੀ ਕਛ੝ ਬਉਰੇ ਜਉ ਦਿਲ ਮਹਿ ਖਬਰਿ ਨ ਹੋਈ ॥੨॥
ਅਲਹ੝ ਗੈਬ੝ ਸਗਲ ਘਟ ਭੀਤਰਿ ਹਿਰਦੈ ਲੇਹ੝ ਬਿਚਾਰੀ ॥ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਤ੝ਰਕ ਦ੝ਹੂੰ ਮਹਿ ਝਕੈ ਕਹੈ ਕਬੀਰ ਪ੝ਕਾਰੀ ॥੩॥੭॥੨੯॥

Rojĝ ḝẖarai manĝvai alhu su▫ĝḝaṯ jī▫a sangẖĝrai. Āpĝ ḝekẖ avar nahī ḝekẖai kĝhe ka▫o jẖakẖ mĝrai. (1)
Kĝjī sĝhib ek ṯohī mėh ṯerĝ socẖ bicẖĝr na ḝekẖai. Kẖabar na karahi ḝīn ke ba▫ure ṯĝ ṯe janam alekẖai. (1)rahĝ▫o.
Sĝcẖ kaṯeb bakẖĝnai alhu nĝr purakẖ nahī ko▫ī. Padẖe gune nĝhī kacẖẖ ba▫ure ja▫o ḝil mėh kẖabar na ho▫ī. (2)
Alhu gaib sagal gẖat bẖīṯar hirḝai leho bicẖĝrī. Hinḝū ṯurak duhū▫aʼn mėh ekai kahai Kabīr pukĝrī. (3)(7)(29)

You keep your fasts to please Allah, while you murder other beings for pleasure.
You look after your own interests, and so not see the interests of others. What good is your word? (1)
O Qazi, the One Lord is within you, but you do not behold Him by thought or contemplation.
You do not care for others, you are a religious fanatic, and your life is of no account at all. (1)(Pause)
Your holy scriptures say that Allah is True, and that he is neither male nor female.
But you gain nothing by reading and studying, O mad-man, if you do not gain the understanding in your heart. (2)
Allah is hidden in every heart; reflect upon this in your mind.
The One Lord is within both Hindu and Muslim; Kabeer proclaims this out loud. (3)(7)(29)
Sri Granth: Sri Guru Granth Sahib
Sri Granth: Sri Guru Granth Sahib
Sri Granth: Sri Guru Granth Sahib

The Sikh scriptures therefore emphasise monotheism and God-consciousness. What are your views about this @Sidak @DARIUS @Aeronaut ?

Some Sikhs actually admit Nanak was a Muslim. I also came to such a conclusion just by reading up his life, funny thing is those who try to deny it due it with superstitious stories like he went to Mecca to teach Muslims God was not in the Kaaba when considering he spent all his time with Fakirs he would have already known Muslims do not believe such a thing lol so that doesn't add up, then they also say oh but he was not buried his body just disappeared and the story they relate about the incident is a total forgery from the death of Kabir. Then there is the fact that when they opened his Chola they found the Shahada written on it.

 

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@he-man , @Sidak your opinions please