Is india really a secular,liberal above all a democrtic state?

[ashok321]

In Saudi do they feed the culprit with his choicest meal before beheading?

Well India is more democratic, Afzal was fed Mutton/Chicken Briyani in a death cell, as Kasab was.

And if BJP and other right thinking Indians were silent, CONgress might have spared him by exporting him to Islamic country.

They expedited this hanging because they are looking at election.

 

[Iggy]

WTF?? Why people bringing in Secularism, Liberalism and Democracy when a terrorist is hanged.. There was a trial and Indian Judician system found him guilty.. He also have the oppurtunity to apply for mercy plea.. Only after that he was hanged.. He was given every right as an Indian citizen.. We have given terrorist a strong message..


Justice may have delayed but it is served..

 

[jaibi]

If we treat terrorists the way terrorists treat us then we don't win, sir, they do. We oppose the anarchy that is inherant in all terror driven philosophy; we propose civil laws, civil manners and civil handling of all affairs. I agree that if he was guilty he should have been executed but it should be done in the same manner as any criminal deserving the same punishment. Our premise is to eradicate terrorism not terrorists for these agents are dissidents unless we address the source of the disease we'll continue to suffer from this cancer.

 

[subincb]

If we treat terrorists the way terrorists treat us then we don't win, sir, they do. We oppose the anarchy that is inherant in all terror driven philosophy; we propose civil laws, civil manners and civil handling of all affairs. I agree that if he was guilty he should have been executed but it should be done in the same manner as any criminal deserving the same punishment. Our premise is to eradicate terrorism not terrorists for these agents are dissidents unless we address the source of the disease we'll continue to suffer from this cancer.

EXACTLY!!! you are right, we should address the source. India made mistake with LTTE, we learnt we changed when we realised our mistake. will ISI and Pakistan military accept and change with regards to JeM, LeT and others. If that happens we wont have had this. Terrorism is hugely funded and their trainings and all cannot be undertaken so easily without military help of some country.

 

[MST]

Well in a democratic and secular state his family must have been informed and allowed to meet him for a last time plus there are other protocols which are required to be followed by international standards none of which was followed just because he was a muslim he was killed like a dog without enough proofs as you needed somebody to make a scapegoat.Its not me or pakistani who are saying so its an international body..As I am sure you dint read it all here is it for you democratic and incredible indians.

Serious questions have been raised about the fairness of Afzal Guru’s trial. He did not receive legal representation of his choice or a lawyer with adequate experience at the trial stage. These concerns were not addressed,” said Shashikumar.

“Before Ajmal Kasab’s execution in November, Indian authorities used to make information about the rejection of mercy petitions and dates of execution available to the public prior to any executions. The new practice of carrying out executions in secret is highly disturbing.

A very lame statement from you. Lest you forget that two 'Muslims' were acquitted in the same trial by Supreme Court which upheld Afzal Guru's sentence.

Criticism from Amnesty or any other 'WESTERN' Human Rights group is expected. They see everything from the eyes of developed world. So if you are supporting them now than I am sure you also supported their recent report on Baluchistan.

Though I do agree that his family should have been informed and they should have the right to perform his last rites. If this was not done then its wrong.

 

[trident2010]

Good job done by India, hope they keep doing the same in future !!

 

[arp2041]

@Albatross, well mate, when the similar accusations were made by Amnesty International against PA, this is what the Pakistani members here had to say:

PA is fighting a war on terror for the last 10+ years with thousands of lost lives and injuries. Terrorists don't follow Jeneva convention in their attacks against innocent civilians, Amnesty can stuff that report up it arse and suck our dicks.

Just new tactics by the enemies of Pakistan to hurt the image of Pakistan. Total BULLSH!T & pure lies.

they can bash but let these whites few days live in NW so they will think before bash pak army at next time

See for yourself

http://www.defence.pk/forums/pakistan-army/224369-pakistan-army-calls-amnesty-report-pack-lies.html

& also this:

Screw Amnesty International.This is our internal matter.Amnesty International can go to hell.

http://www.defence.pk/forums/social...rnational-about-baloch-killings-pakistan.html

& this:

Amnesty can shove these reports up their behinds. How about reports on human right violations by terrorist talibans?

http://www.defence.pk/forums/pakist...n-military-guilty-abuses-alleges-amnesty.html

This is not me or any other Indian member that are saying above things, these are some of the Pakistani members here. So when it is about Pakistani terrorists than F*** Amnesty but when it's Indian terrorists it's the most Holiest organization in the world?? & how come question of religion comes in?? Isn't the TTP & BLA terrorists of same religion?? or PA asks them for there religion first & than pass it's judgement??

 

[JanjaWeed]

So a death penalty granted to a terrorist is the benchmark to measure India's secular, liberal & democratic credentials? If that is the case US must be even worse than India. There are lot many developing countries ahead of India with higher rate of Capital punishment. Would be better if Amnesty International starts their rehabilitation from top down instead of bottom up. Would save lot many souls & their human rights...

 

[trident2010]

Until they hand all the scum terrorist, I don't give a $hit about secular, liberal, democratic state rant from outsiders.

 

[Ayush]

Yes, it is and we saw a sample of that yesterday, when our elected president rejected his plea and hanged him for his crime.

Yes, it is and we saw a sample of that yesterday, when our elected president rejected his plea and hanged him for his crime.

 

[newdelhinsa]

Amenesty international should tell us a nation who has been atracked like this and has let law of the land just go mute. Pontification by pakistan or pakistani poster is just funny with no other good word coming to mind.

 

[True pakistani 22]

Kashmirs on Facebook are Comparing Afzal Garu with Bhagat singh
Both attacked Parliament,s and both get Hanged

 

[newdelhinsa]

Kashmirs on Facebook are Comparing Afzal Garu with Bhagat singh
Both attacked Parliament,s and both get Hanged

No one take these traitors seriously,

Bhagat Singh never begged for clemency. He was not a religious bigots like these people are. Bhagat Singh never got money from foreign powers to buy weapons. Bhagat Singh used non lethal bombs just to deliver the message, these Kashmiri muslims killed guards at point blank range could have killed half of India's leadership.

 

[True pakistani 22]

No one take these traitors seriously,

Bhagat Singh never begged for clemency. He was not a religious bigots like these people are. Bhagat Singh never got money from foreign powers to buy weapons. Bhagat Singh used non lethal bombs just to deliver the message, these Kashmiri muslims killed guards at point blank range could have killed half of India's leadership.

i has Noticed almost All Kashmirs on facebook are Posting Afzal Is our National hero
one of my facebook Kashmir friend told me: Afzal was fruit merchant living common life in Kashmir want to delhi for some Business work but unfortunately some people attacked indian parliament and Afzal was Put behind

 

[scorpionx]

i has Noticed almost All Kashmirs on facebook are Posting Afzal Is our National hero
one of my facebook Kashmir friend told me: Afzal was fruit merchant living common life in Kashmir want to delhi for some Business work but unfortunately some people attacked indian parliament and Afzal was Put behind

Kindly watch this innocent fruitseller's interview on 20th Dec'2001. He had confessed that he got training from Jaish,took instructions from Gazibaba and played active role in the attack. What is the reason behind this deliberate ignorance?