Is India Panicking In Ladakh!

[xyx007]

I like this guy unbiased analysis over this situation.

 

[Dil Pakistan]

DONT want to sound defeatist GUYS

BUT the CHINEASE MILITARY looks SICK

SO much better equipped ,

I HAVE no idea about discipline or moral or leadership or combat doctrine and tactics.

BUT I fear they will cause SEVERE damage

BUT we HAVE NO CHOICE ……….. we HAVE to Fight …………...THEY have force india into corner

its SERIOUSLY worrying I have no idea are e ready OR not I fear the worst

Please watch this video .... this guy has done a brilliant analysis.....his punchline is: how you fight an enemy that you cannot have the knowledge of its depth and strategy.

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/indi...ics-over-border-faceoff.670261/#post-12410319

 

[Dual Wielder]

IS INDIA PANICING ………… yes they bloddy well are.

CHINA is second only to USA in military and industrial might

BUT we have to FIGHT ………. THEY are threatening our HOME ,

Wrong! Occupied Kashmir is NOT your home, its ours; we Kashmiri's reject the union with Gangadesh, our home is with Pakistan; for we share a common ancestral heritage dating back many millennia that is the Indus Civilisation, and that relationship is further interlinked with Islam. The fact you have to use 1 million armed angry apes to subdue an unarmed defenceless native populous proves IOK is a lost cause even after 7 decades. Your 'nation' is nothing more than a failed colonial fascist project that will in due course evidently disintegrate.. now with the monkey king at the helm will only speed up the process. Playing macho might work in a sh1tty scripted bollywood movie in front of a home audience, but doing it in reality in front of the Chinese is a whole different ball game, they going to slaughter your malnourished gorillas.. just like the inhumane animals they are; I for one hope they get every last one of them, no quarters given.

 

[Patriot786b2]

Pakistan needs with a proxy war with 2 front development and China. Pakistan has now the supreme positing to flank the Indians in West border in the 2 front war window opportunity.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

lol lol lol

THEY ARE NOT YOUR BROTHERS they look million miles different

Could not care less about their looks. What the Chinese have done for Pakistan is unprecedented. Even more than what a brother does for another.

Do you have credible links to prove this?- No Chinese and Pakistan Links will be accepted.

Pakistanis and Chinese are not the biggest liars and purveyors of FALSE NEWS. indians are:

https://thenextweb.com/security/201...ites-caught-pushing-anti-pakistan-propaganda/

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-asia-india-50749764

 

[Imad.Khan]

DONT want to sound defeatist GUYS

BUT the CHINEASE MILITARY looks SICK

SO much better equipped ,

I HAVE no idea about discipline or moral or leadership or combat doctrine and tactics.

BUT I fear they will cause SEVERE damage

BUT we HAVE NO CHOICE ……….. we HAVE to Fight …………...THEY have force india into corner

its SERIOUSLY worrying I have no idea are e ready OR not I fear the worst

my unbiased opinion is that China spent alot of effort in building up their own military infrastructure, while India spent most of military budget acquiring toys from other countries. Further to it (again just my opinion) the main reason for all of this is India's political structure which also based on the imposed westminister system which doesn't allow the best people to be in power and the politicians are only working for their own benefit.

 

[ChinaToday]

india army air patrolling seen near Ladakh

 

[peagle]

I say with confidence …………. You Pakistanis wont utter a word ...
Your leaders and military lack the foresight and shear audacity to try.

Deep down Thy Know 2 FRONT WAR = nuclear weapons



We stole Saichen in 1984
We liberated East Pakistan.

OR you saying it never happended

Arry America kay tattu, tell me one thing you did on your own strength, even now you are begging for America to come to your aid.

Attacked Siachen, when Pakistan was busy dealing with Afghanistan.
Attacked east Pakistan after signing a treaty with the Soviet Union and taking advantage of internal problems.
In 1962 you went begging to America who saved you from China and Pakistan. Pakistan did you a massive favour by not attacking, like street dogs, you showed your true colours and when you saw an opportunity. Bunch of retards.
You are only brave when protected by a master, never alone.

Personally, I disagree with Pakistan attacking, it is not a permanent solution, despite your backstabbing, we still need to find peace in the region, I dont believe you can find peace by spilling blood.

 

[Joe Shearer]

You are talking about Past which does not matter now. Pak will initiate war Only after India and China actively went into war. For India China war, India needs to respond China militarily.

Alternatively this will be India who will pick a war with Pakistan rather China to boost his dwindling prestige.

You must read Burns. Immediately.

"The best laid plans of mice and men....."

Sir!

Abhi tau time kharab chal raha hey ...... abhi tau Pakistan par attack kidhar say hoga --- aagay khadda, peechay khaaee

This is why China is sitting there --- all your military strategy has been neutralised.

Even an attack from sea or from South is impossible at this stage.

You need to mobilise army to face China, which is building in massive numbers every 24-hours.

@PanzerKiel

In case you haven't noticed, little one, we are not planning to attack Pakistan, any more than we did in 47, in 65, or in 99. It is usually the practice in these matters for Pakistan to attack us, and to be caught by surprise; then for us to counter-attack, at a place of our own choosing, and for Pakistan to be caught by surprise. In all cases, the Chinese were present, and did nothing.

I am sorry to dispel the beautiful dreams you've been having. Maybe you can dream of cricket instead; you are likelier to get a victory there.

 

[Dil Pakistan]

You must read Burns. Immediately.
"The best laid plans of mice and men....."
In case you haven't noticed, little one, we are not planning to attack Pakistan, any more than we did in 47, in 65, or in 99. It is usually the practice in these matters for Pakistan to attack us, and to be caught by surprise; then for us to counter-attack, at a place of our own choosing, and for Pakistan to be caught by surprise. In all cases, the Chinese were present, and did nothing.
I am sorry to dispel the beautiful dreams you've been having. Maybe you can dream of cricket instead; you are likelier to get a victory there.

Common Sir!
You are better than that.
Why be so selective with your choice of words.
You are not (I agree) ….. but you were …… do you agree?
You were only hours away from launching the multi-prong attack.

 

[Joe Shearer]

Common Sir!
You are better than that.
Why be so selective with your choice of words.
You are not (I agree) ….. but you were …… do you agree?
You were only hours away from launching the multi-prong attack.

No, we were nowhere near launching anything; the Pakistan Army would have known days in advance, because the logistics - the roadways - in the entire state of Jammu and Kashmir is such that materiel build-up takes weeks of effort. It cannot be disguised as the customary build-up taken up every year, because this is not the season; it cannot be disguised in any shape or form, one piece of evidence being the volume of traffic that has been seen going up the LAC and various Indian Army strong points on it. If it was possible to do anything surreptitious, that would have been done in the east; it was not possible, so it was visible.

You talk about a 'multi-prong' attack; is that multi-prong as in several axes of attack, or multi-prong as in cross-service? The phrase sounds good, but it should be used wisely and effectively, not merely for effect. As far as multi-prong is concerned, what could have been the prongs? The Pakistan Army has deep defences in the south and its main garrisons are located within hours of the LOC from Gurdaspur northwards; it has a strong presence along the entire alignment of Pakistan administered Kashmir, what Pakistan terms Azad Kashmir; it is also strong in the Neelum Valley, and then in a re-entrant going up to Skardu. Its presence in the lower heights of the approach from the Pakistan side to Siachen is well-established.

Opposing this is the XVI Corps, of course, a very strong defensive corps, but one that will consume thousands of litres of fuel in any advance; where is that fuel stockpiled? Next we have XV Corps in the Valley and on its outer rim facing Pakistan administered Kashmir; there, too, we have enough troops to defend, nowhere near the number needed to attack, especially not anywhere near the numbers needed to attack on heavily defended and forested hill-sides. Finally, in the Dras-Kargil-Batalik belt, we have a single, solitary division, detached from XIV Corps, for the entire front.

One single, solitary opportunity is left, and that is watched like a very hungry cat watches a mouse-hole. That area of opportunity is also one marked by geographically unpromising features, and the impossibility of mounting attacks by large numbers of troops.

A campaign like Genghis Khan's needs numbers like Genghis Khan's.

Perhaps you should explain why you are in such a high state of excitement and are staring round-eyed at a vista is peaceful and serene, and interrupted only by state-sponsored and supported infiltration from Pakistan administered Kashmir into J&K. What evidence do you have, what were the signs you saw that convinced you that there was an imminent prospect of - what was that phrase again? - ah, yes, a multi-prong attack.

Arry America kay tattu, tell me one thing you did on your own strength, even now you are begging for America to come to your aid.

Attacked Siachen, when Pakistan was busy dealing with Afghanistan.
Attacked east Pakistan after signing a treaty with the Soviet Union and taking advantage of internal problems.
In 1962 you went begging to America who saved you from China and Pakistan. Pakistan did you a massive favour by not attacking, like street dogs, you showed your true colours and when you saw an opportunity. Bunch of retards.

In 1962, Pakistan was nowhere to be seen, so there was little question of begging to anyone against Pakistan.

You are only brave when protected by a master, never alone.

If you are speaking about Pakistan, that makes sense; from its inception, having joined two, not one, military alliance, Pakistan gained arms, artillery, armour and even a reorganisation of its formations away from the British system. Later, after an increasingly acrimonious relationship with your masters, you turned to the Chinese, and have filled your aircraft with Chinese inventions that don't get used by the Chinese themselves, your army has entirely converted to Chinese imitations of Soviet tanks to which you give resounding names, your foot soldiers carry anti-tank missiles mass-produced from Chinese models, and now your navy, the last hold-out, is getting filled with cookie-cutter surface ships produced in great volumes at high speed by Chinese yards.

You have frequently been brave, some would say far too frequently. When were you alone?

Personally, I disagree with Pakistan attacking, it is not a permanent solution, despite your backstabbing, we still need to find peace in the region, I dont believe you can find peace by spilling blood.

Three unprovoked attacks without warning, and WE are the backstabbers?

How old are you?

 

[Clutch]

Makkar Indians. Extending the olive branch.

While they are actually mobilising to invade our Gilgit Baltistan region in the garb of defending against China.

Bagh always main churi moo pe ram ram. Typical Indian chankiyan strategy. Our planners know better.

The tweet was from 2015. The OP was misleading. India is not offering an olive branch to Pakistan, they want to exterminate pakistan.

 

[fallstuff]

Both parties need to deescalate. It would be foolish for both side to get into a battle.

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

It's about prestige.

Slowly Indians are realizing that Chinese has intruded into Indian claimed territory. IA does not want to fight with Chinese since there is a chance of major loses for IA so Indians are trying to vacate the land diplomatically. But this is hitting the prestige of IA and pressure is building up on IA and India to respond to save the face.

They’re in a classic catch-22 problem!! And, it’s like a loss/loss situation! As long as the Hindu heartlands are safe they can part with the periphery....

Sir this is where the Military Experts come in, maybe Signalian or Panzerkiel can put some light to it. It will be interesting to see how India fares on a two front scenario!

Forget about military experts, any folk with the slightest common sense can figure out India is being grossly exposed....

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Seeing Mother India in a DISARRAY, RSS has sent an olive branch to Pakistan.

Please remove this tweet from your OP. It is an old one and not Indian RSS present position. If this was said in the past, it was also not in line with their common rhetoric.

They’re in a classic catch-22 problem!! And, it’s like a loss/loss situation! As long as the Hindu heartlands are safe they can part with the periphery....

J&K are not Indian territory. They are indeed peripheral. India has occupied sovereign Pakistani land and people in J&K by force.

It is an unnatural hold of the region, now it is time for the equilibrium to shift back towards its original way, just like as has happened in Afghanistan.

Pakistan is the breadbasket and major trading center for both Afghanistan and J&K.

We are now seeing historical wrongs being righted. Alhamdulilah.

Joint China and Pakistani attack is inevitable. Better for India to withdraw from J&K and let it vote in UN plebiscite than to hold it by military force.