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Is IMF under Indian economic chief Gita Gopinath fudging Indian economic growth?

All this trigger for IMF saying India will grow at 1% and Pakistan at -2%.? I mean really? And conspiracies are at full force here.
India with 1% growth is nothing. Or its possible it can go to minus as there is nearly 40 days of lockdown and some cities will be locked down going into the future. There is a possibility of going into minus as well. The less we talk about Pakistani economy, the better in this case. All I see is jealousy on how Indian economy is growing more slowly than your one. Kids should work on the other side to make your country stronger. All of this is just hot talk. Will take nowhere
 
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Indian GDP in recent years have been fudged. Everyone knows about it and now their mole, thanks to Uncle Sam, is now a high up in IMF.



That's obvious. The only thing that is surprising is any one believing anything an indian says.

All this trigger for IMF saying India will grow at 1% and Pakistan at -2%.? I mean really? And conspiracies are at full force here.
India with 1% growth is nothing. Or its possible it can go to minus as there is nearly 40 days of lockdown and some cities will be locked down going into the future. There is a possibility of going into minus as well. The less we talk about Pakistani economy, the better in this case. All I see is jealousy on how Indian economy is growing more slowly than your one. Kids should work on the other side to make your country stronger. All of this is just hot talk. Will take nowhere




Where did you get those figures from? IF what you say is true then remember to post the links here.

The biggest jealousy comes from those who belong to the race and nation that has the highest number of severely malnourished and extreme poor people in the world. That is definitely NOT Pakistan.......:azn::

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wo...591/India-accused-of-poverty-smokescreen.html

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/jul/14/poverty-india-africa-oxford

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wo...-third-of-worlds-poorest-says-World-Bank.html

https://blogs.worldbank.org/opendata/half-world-s-poor-live-just-5-countries
 
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That's obvious. The only thing that is surprising is any one believing anything an indian says.






Where did you get those figures from? IF what you say is true then remember to post the links here.

The biggest jealousy comes from those who belong to the race and nation that has the highest number of severely malnourished and extreme poor people in the world. That is definitely NOT Pakistan.......:azn::

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wo...591/India-accused-of-poverty-smokescreen.html

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/jul/14/poverty-india-africa-oxford

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wo...-third-of-worlds-poorest-says-World-Bank.html

https://blogs.worldbank.org/opendata/half-world-s-poor-live-just-5-countries
Pls quote articles from 1990 too. Why go back just 10 years.
 
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Numbers. Numbers. Numbers.

Frankly, it is immaterial what IMF says about the growth rates of IndianEconomy. Or WB or ABD.

All of the WashingtonConcensus Instruements of Policy Implementation .... these Institutions or better still PolicyInstruements don't do this for the sake of emperical honesty but to make sure that the DollarSystem remains in tact...which is vital for the CombinedWest. Logically. And why not!

The West created the modern world and has been dominating it totally for TWO centuries at least... so why should they let go of their prime position in the Pyramid of Global Hierachy? No one will do so voluntarily... FACT!

With fall of the Soviets the leverage that India could enjoy with the CombinedWest also went down...now it could not play hard to get! As it did through Non-Aligned Movement ... gaining benefits from both the US led CombinedWest and the Soviets... herein was also ChinaFactor.

With Nixon's 'opening up' of China.... China had agreed to become part of the DollarSystem and the socalled Globalisation started. Enough on this one to avoid too much detail for fear of distraction from the main theme.

What is Globalisation?
Is it mere relocation of factories to developing world?
CheapLabour?


The QuintEssence of Globalisation was/is Financialisation of Everything!

Everything else just was foundational requirement to enlarge the DollarSystem to entire globe....

And with PolicyInstruements like IMF, WB, ADB etc.... this could shape the Global Financial Architecture ... properly monitored by BIS. Once again why not!

All Systems seeks to preserve/advance/sustain themselves at all costs.... so why not DollarSystem. A detached understanding is imperative...otherwise, we run from pole to pillar... with impotent anguish!

Be it helicopter money or QEs ...it all could be done because there was an EmergingMarket landscape to buy-out Inflation just to remain in DollarSystem.... this should sufice for fundamental understanding as to why the US has been so successful to keep the Dollar strong while printing it with total abandon.... Any other state would have beomce like Zimbawae long before .... Take Pakistan as example!

But there were some problems also with FinancialisingEverything.... as we saw in the collapse of LehmanBrothers or other lenders.... because Driviates in the Hands of Masters of the Universe became never ending rallies... while global GDP remained for what its a mere $86Trillion ... while DeriviateMarketSize is $1200Trillion....

So the WorldGDP needs to grow at any cost or the Biggest Bubble in history will go boom....taking with it the DollarSystem.

China, GCC, JP, SK and other EmergingMarkets
have now too much holdings of this 'Exported Inflaction'.... something gotta give!

Perhaps it is safe to say that the DollarSystem is the reason for the prosperity and life-style of the CombinedWest ... though purchasing power is going down in the CombinedWest landscapre as well... but the DollarSystem and its main beneficitiary have NEVER had so good .... and they wish to rightfully, from their perspective, keep it this way. Logical!

AsianTigers of ASEAN... boom then bust with currency crisis... then China bailed the ASEAN out by not devaluating its currency.... @Shotgunner51

So the DollarSystem dones't have a problem of Liquidity.... it has problem of underwritting... hence, the Globalisation will continue and no jobs/manufacturing is going to go home. Simple!

Asia is the Only place where next thirty years of Growth is most likely.

Now in this conext we need to understand the IMF, WB, ADB or other rating agencies supporting India Next Big Thing narrative... and why not! Logical!


India's near default and then rescue by the IMF... MM Singh got the credit for the 'imported' reforms....but the Indian economy got some structural shape to have some kind of foundational underpinning for the DollarSystem to integerate it into the Masters of the Universe Pyramid.

The relaxation of visa regime for Indians to the US and all those lofty words/platitudes and then massive aid
... from Cliton to Trump.... this is all part of that longterm plan of creating another China like production lines so that the Financialisation of Everything could continue.... India would get GDP growth.... DollarSystem will get a larger underwritter to be integerated into FED swap window. And once again..why not!

In the intial phase the idea was to boost trade between the US and India upto $500Bln .... but for that ModiRegime needed to do certain things...

Also, important here that the CombinedWest/DollarSystem is NOT going to create another China to deal with in next twenty/thirty years.... so not all eggs would be coming to Indian basket.

ModiRegime has been big on soundbites and very low on delivery as it is necessary/demanded by the DollarSystem... namely, privatisation of SOEs, liberalisation of land and labour laws and legal cover/protection for investments and bigger % of ownership.

Unlike China ... India is not in a position to negotiate from position of strength regarding ACTUAL transfer of key Technologies... key to be anything in the Global TechnoFeudalHierachy!

Also, the Infrastructure in India is not condusive to mass manufacturing and seamless logistics or just-in-time SupplyChainManagement.

We have seen the Development Models of ASEAN and China ...where there was very clear longterm roadmap of development.

Singapore was an elected Dictatorship which kept on dilvering consistently... so were in practice the good years of Malaysia.... Vietnam is now following the same model rather well!

The FlightPath to enter into MiddleIncome country won't go hand-in-hand with Liberalism of the CombinedWest in barely developing countries @Reddington It does make the upper middle class feel good and chatty or the media to punch some catchy headlines... ground realities dont change.

Now looking at the Indian performance of ServicesDelivery, which is the measure of Functionality of Governance, can it be said to be equal or better than Vietnam..let alone Singapore or Malaysia?

How many Indian universities are in top 100 or 200 WorldClass universities?

India can produce, perhaps, half a million of engineers a year...but what is the quality of these graduates?

What is overall Quality of Education and Skill Levels of average Indians?.... Compared to the ASEAN/China????

India can surely become a $7 trillion economy but it has to do deep structural reforms... which will be painful to say the least... It also has to upgrade its infrastructure to 21st Century standards ... in total Indian needs to invest $3Trillion in development and upgradation of its Infrastructure and also spend heavily in its educational system as well with equal urgency.

The above would mean privatisation and borrowing... Borrowing won't be a problem in DollarSystem...but the colletral is what India fears...and shies away at everymoment.

But one thing is certain that India has now fully committed itself to DollarSystem ...which is why BRICS is DeadDonkey and SCO presence of India is cerimonial at best.

The holding back of full scale dive into DollarSystem is sytemic problems in the financial sector of India with too much NPLs.... monitisation of currency printing/debt and no reforms ... all these combined will create major problems not in too distant future.

The jobless growth was driven by the Stockmarket FDI and not actual expansion of industrial output.... and with the KhooniVirus having a field day... hot money left the market...as in every emerging market and tried seek shelter under the FED stimulus or simply buy dollars.

Some factories will relocate out of China..the process is not new... just masla added for eyeballs... al the Sunset Industries were/are planned to leave as China wishes to climb up in the ValueChain of Manufacturing.... Pak SEZs or BD SEZ were to host these Sunset industries.... some already moved to Vietnam....

In a nutshell India has to do a few things for the DollarSystem if it wishes to profit from it and become part of the CombinedWest.....

GCC was the first to look to India for investments...as it is part of the CombinedWest or better said DollarSystem... and then there was the US prompting as there as well.

All in all the DollarSystem and its PolicyInstruements will say or do anything that can preseve or advance the System.... why not again... this is what Systems do.


Just packing factories from China and unpacking them in India is fanciful at best...given the skill levels are not there. Also the discipline of the workforce and labour laws... political stability and predictablity of policies are key requirements for such an enterprise.

My sense is that the CombinedWest/DollarSystem will spread the factories to as many as possible EmergingMarkets to broaden the base for DollarSystem so that already FinancialisedEverything can be sustained..if not expand.

Just to be brutally honest... Pakistan is still fiddling with SEZ oprationalisation .... it should have by now created dedicated SEZ for Germany, Japan, China, SK and the US.... each with its own dedicated SEZ...

The paralysis of GoP and absense of Clear Roadmap towards Industrialisation is painfully apparent. Wrote a lot about it...now too painful...hence, a BemusedObserver!

The fundamental difference between the Chinese and Indians is that of work ethics and behaviour.... Where the Chinese ..or better said EastAsian are more disciplined with higher impulse controle and willingness to learn/adopt/put in long hours... Indians tend to be more impulsive, less disciplined and generally easy going... It is not meant as some silly racism but as comparative benchmarkt required for Industrialisation.

Studious vs Impulsive

Short term vs Long term

Unless we know the length and breadth of Indian NPLs and EfficiencyQuotient of its SOEs ... numbers don't matter. And what everyone fails to appreciate is the PensionCrisis that is just around the corner for India... despite have very young population....

Indian government is too large and too expensive .... Pension. Pensions. Pensions.

Same goes for Pakistan as well!

What we have seen in the Western media regarding IoJK or Muslims of MaqboozaHindustan was/is a pressure tactic for ModiRegime to shape up and focus on agreed things to open up the economy for the DollarSystem to make a nest.

GCC is just adding the need push the above mention pressure tactic @Ace of Spades


Mangus

P.S. It is useless to compare Pakistan to India ....in the context above.... India is the only country in Asia/World which has to potential to become a Challenger to China if it fully integerated into the DollarSystem. Choise is Indian...conseqences for everyone!
Superb stuff.
 
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Just tagging in case this thread goes undetected. @Syama Ayas @Jackdaws @Nilgiri :lol:
I was trying warn Gita Gopinath that our evil Sanghi conspiracy has been uncovered and cyber mard-e-monin are on to us

I just hope Pakistan doesn't use its clout in IMF to have her removed :cry:

Once Gita Gopinath is replaced with a pious Pakistani who have been verified as per Hudood laws people will soon realize India never had a 2 trillion $ but 2 billion $ economy

@Joe Shearer @acetophenol @jbgt90 we need to go for plan b (our contingency plan in case we were discovered)
 
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Yes, If only china was head of IMF and ran it as efficiently as it ran the WHO.

What a shame.


I was reading somewhere that if Indian gdp is calculated with "old formula" (not the fudged one which was introduced by hindu terrorist regime) , Indian economic growth is already in negative or there about.


For your enlightenment :


https://www.businesstoday.in/curren...ers-does-no-good-to-economy/story/331960.html

Data fudging: Dressing up GDP and budget numbers does no good to economy


https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...-accused-of-overstating-its-growth-statistics

India Has Been Accused of Overstating Its Growth Statistics



https://www.ft.com/content/b452f684-8c01-11e9-a1c1-51bf8f989972

Indian statistics grossly overstated GDP growth, says former adviser






Question is, on what basis IMF with Gita Gopinath as chief economist is predicting 1.9% growth of India? Everyone knows the official figures peddled by Indian establishment are all but blatant lies. So what is the barometer? If IMF is just relying on India's own figures pulled out from thin air, then IMF is a partner in crime, knowingly and deliberately misinforming the world and investors.
 
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Lets wait and see. ANYONE predicting rates of growth are all whistling in the wind
I wonder which Indian is running the world bank perhaps PAKISTANFOREVER can give us the name, fudging world bank figures since IMF is controlled by India according to that clown. Asian development Bank must also be in the hands of nefarious Indian fudging figures in the middle of the night

World Bank forecasts worst economic slump in South Asia in 40 years

Manoj Kumar
3 MIN READ

NEW DELHI (Reuters) - India and other South Asian countries are likely to record their worst growth performance in four decades this year due to the coronavirus outbreak, the World Bank said on Sunday.
FILE PHOTO: A nearly deserted wholesale market is seen during lockdown to limit the spread of the new coronavirus in the old quarters of Delhi, India, March 24, 2020. REUTERS/Anushree Fadnavis
The South Asian region, comprising eight countries, is likely to show economic growth of 1.8% to 2.8% this year, the World Bank said in its South Asia Economic Focus report, well down from the 6.3% it projected six months ago.

India’s economy, the region’s biggest, is expected to grow 1.5% to 2.8% in the fiscal year that started on April 1. The World Bank has estimated it will grow 4.8% to 5% in the fiscal year that ended on March 31.

“The green shoots of a rebound that were observable at the end of 2019 have been overtaken by the negative impacts of the global crisis,” the World Bank report said.

Other than India, the World Bank forecast that Sri Lanka, Nepal, Bhutan and Bangladesh will also see sharp falls in economic growth.


Three other countries - Pakistan, Afghanistan and the Maldives - are expected to fall into recession, the World Bank said in the report, which was based on country-level data available as of April 7.

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-h...slump-in-south-asia-in-40-years-idUKKCN21U040


Asian Development Bank on the other hand predicts after taking convid-19 into account a growth rate of 2.6% for 2020 and 3.2% for 2021 for Pakistan

And for India growth rate of 4% for 2020 and 6.2% for 2021

ADB report is from April of this year
 
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I was reading somewhere that if Indian gdp is calculated with "old formula" (not the fudged one which was introduced by hindu terrorist regime) , Indian economic growth is already in negative or there about.


For your enlightenment :


https://www.businesstoday.in/curren...ers-does-no-good-to-economy/story/331960.html

Data fudging: Dressing up GDP and budget numbers does no good to economy


https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...-accused-of-overstating-its-growth-statistics

India Has Been Accused of Overstating Its Growth Statistics



https://www.ft.com/content/b452f684-8c01-11e9-a1c1-51bf8f989972

Indian statistics grossly overstated GDP growth, says former adviser






Question is, on what basis IMF with Gita Gopinath as chief economist is predicting 1.9% growth of India? Everyone knows the official figures peddled by Indian establishment are all but blatant lies. So what is the barometer? If IMF is just relying on India's own figures pulled out from thin air, then IMF is a partner in crime, knowingly and deliberately misinforming the world and investors.

I will ask Gita Gopinath to report to you and submit all calculations and documents for your perusal and approval.

Anything else ?
 
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I will ask Gita Gopinath to report to you and submit all calculations and documents for your perusal and approval.

Anything else ?


Any graduate from LUMS and IBA will do a better job then her. She can pass on the data to these insitutions for verification.

Question is, are you now fully aware of fudging in numbers done by Indian establishment?
 
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Numbers. Numbers. Numbers.

Frankly, it is immaterial what IMF says about the growth rates of IndianEconomy. Or WB or ABD.

All of the WashingtonConcensus Instruements of Policy Implementation .... these Institutions or better still PolicyInstruements don't do this for the sake of emperical honesty but to make sure that the DollarSystem remains in tact...which is vital for the CombinedWest. Logically. And why not!

The West created the modern world and has been dominating it totally for TWO centuries at least... so why should they let go of their prime position in the Pyramid of Global Hierachy? No one will do so voluntarily... FACT!

With fall of the Soviets the leverage that India could enjoy with the CombinedWest also went down...now it could not play hard to get! As it did through Non-Aligned Movement ... gaining benefits from both the US led CombinedWest and the Soviets... herein was also ChinaFactor.

With Nixon's 'opening up' of China.... China had agreed to become part of the DollarSystem and the socalled Globalisation started. Enough on this one to avoid too much detail for fear of distraction from the main theme.

What is Globalisation?
Is it mere relocation of factories to developing world?
CheapLabour?


The QuintEssence of Globalisation was/is Financialisation of Everything!

Everything else just was foundational requirement to enlarge the DollarSystem to entire globe....

And with PolicyInstruements like IMF, WB, ADB etc.... this could shape the Global Financial Architecture ... properly monitored by BIS. Once again why not!

All Systems seeks to preserve/advance/sustain themselves at all costs.... so why not DollarSystem. A detached understanding is imperative...otherwise, we run from pole to pillar... with impotent anguish!

Be it helicopter money or QEs ...it all could be done because there was an EmergingMarket landscape to buy-out Inflation just to remain in DollarSystem.... this should sufice for fundamental understanding as to why the US has been so successful to keep the Dollar strong while printing it with total abandon.... Any other state would have beomce like Zimbawae long before .... Take Pakistan as example!

But there were some problems also with FinancialisingEverything.... as we saw in the collapse of LehmanBrothers or other lenders.... because Driviates in the Hands of Masters of the Universe became never ending rallies... while global GDP remained for what its a mere $86Trillion ... while DeriviateMarketSize is $1200Trillion....

So the WorldGDP needs to grow at any cost or the Biggest Bubble in history will go boom....taking with it the DollarSystem.

China, GCC, JP, SK and other EmergingMarkets
have now too much holdings of this 'Exported Inflaction'.... something gotta give!

Perhaps it is safe to say that the DollarSystem is the reason for the prosperity and life-style of the CombinedWest ... though purchasing power is going down in the CombinedWest landscapre as well... but the DollarSystem and its main beneficitiary have NEVER had so good .... and they wish to rightfully, from their perspective, keep it this way. Logical!

AsianTigers of ASEAN... boom then bust with currency crisis... then China bailed the ASEAN out by not devaluating its currency.... @Shotgunner51

So the DollarSystem dones't have a problem of Liquidity.... it has problem of underwritting... hence, the Globalisation will continue and no jobs/manufacturing is going to go home. Simple!

Asia is the Only place where next thirty years of Growth is most likely.

Now in this conext we need to understand the IMF, WB, ADB or other rating agencies supporting India Next Big Thing narrative... and why not! Logical!


India's near default and then rescue by the IMF... MM Singh got the credit for the 'imported' reforms....but the Indian economy got some structural shape to have some kind of foundational underpinning for the DollarSystem to integerate it into the Masters of the Universe Pyramid.

The relaxation of visa regime for Indians to the US and all those lofty words/platitudes and then massive aid
... from Cliton to Trump.... this is all part of that longterm plan of creating another China like production lines so that the Financialisation of Everything could continue.... India would get GDP growth.... DollarSystem will get a larger underwritter to be integerated into FED swap window. And once again..why not!

In the intial phase the idea was to boost trade between the US and India upto $500Bln .... but for that ModiRegime needed to do certain things...

Also, important here that the CombinedWest/DollarSystem is NOT going to create another China to deal with in next twenty/thirty years.... so not all eggs would be coming to Indian basket.

ModiRegime has been big on soundbites and very low on delivery as it is necessary/demanded by the DollarSystem... namely, privatisation of SOEs, liberalisation of land and labour laws and legal cover/protection for investments and bigger % of ownership.

Unlike China ... India is not in a position to negotiate from position of strength regarding ACTUAL transfer of key Technologies... key to be anything in the Global TechnoFeudalHierachy!

Also, the Infrastructure in India is not condusive to mass manufacturing and seamless logistics or just-in-time SupplyChainManagement.

We have seen the Development Models of ASEAN and China ...where there was very clear longterm roadmap of development.

Singapore was an elected Dictatorship which kept on dilvering consistently... so were in practice the good years of Malaysia.... Vietnam is now following the same model rather well!

The FlightPath to enter into MiddleIncome country won't go hand-in-hand with Liberalism of the CombinedWest in barely developing countries @Reddington It does make the upper middle class feel good and chatty or the media to punch some catchy headlines... ground realities dont change.

Now looking at the Indian performance of ServicesDelivery, which is the measure of Functionality of Governance, can it be said to be equal or better than Vietnam..let alone Singapore or Malaysia?

How many Indian universities are in top 100 or 200 WorldClass universities?

India can produce, perhaps, half a million of engineers a year...but what is the quality of these graduates?

What is overall Quality of Education and Skill Levels of average Indians?.... Compared to the ASEAN/China????

India can surely become a $7 trillion economy but it has to do deep structural reforms... which will be painful to say the least... It also has to upgrade its infrastructure to 21st Century standards ... in total Indian needs to invest $3Trillion in development and upgradation of its Infrastructure and also spend heavily in its educational system as well with equal urgency.

The above would mean privatisation and borrowing... Borrowing won't be a problem in DollarSystem...but the colletral is what India fears...and shies away at everymoment.

But one thing is certain that India has now fully committed itself to DollarSystem ...which is why BRICS is DeadDonkey and SCO presence of India is cerimonial at best.

The holding back of full scale dive into DollarSystem is sytemic problems in the financial sector of India with too much NPLs.... monitisation of currency printing/debt and no reforms ... all these combined will create major problems not in too distant future.

The jobless growth was driven by the Stockmarket FDI and not actual expansion of industrial output.... and with the KhooniVirus having a field day... hot money left the market...as in every emerging market and tried seek shelter under the FED stimulus or simply buy dollars.

Some factories will relocate out of China..the process is not new... just masla added for eyeballs... al the Sunset Industries were/are planned to leave as China wishes to climb up in the ValueChain of Manufacturing.... Pak SEZs or BD SEZ were to host these Sunset industries.... some already moved to Vietnam....

In a nutshell India has to do a few things for the DollarSystem if it wishes to profit from it and become part of the CombinedWest.....

GCC was the first to look to India for investments...as it is part of the CombinedWest or better said DollarSystem... and then there was the US prompting as there as well.

All in all the DollarSystem and its PolicyInstruements will say or do anything that can preseve or advance the System.... why not again... this is what Systems do.


Just packing factories from China and unpacking them in India is fanciful at best...given the skill levels are not there. Also the discipline of the workforce and labour laws... political stability and predictablity of policies are key requirements for such an enterprise.

My sense is that the CombinedWest/DollarSystem will spread the factories to as many as possible EmergingMarkets to broaden the base for DollarSystem so that already FinancialisedEverything can be sustained..if not expand.

Just to be brutally honest... Pakistan is still fiddling with SEZ oprationalisation .... it should have by now created dedicated SEZ for Germany, Japan, China, SK and the US.... each with its own dedicated SEZ...

The paralysis of GoP and absense of Clear Roadmap towards Industrialisation is painfully apparent. Wrote a lot about it...now too painful...hence, a BemusedObserver!

The fundamental difference between the Chinese and Indians is that of work ethics and behaviour.... Where the Chinese ..or better said EastAsian are more disciplined with higher impulse controle and willingness to learn/adopt/put in long hours... Indians tend to be more impulsive, less disciplined and generally easy going... It is not meant as some silly racism but as comparative benchmarkt required for Industrialisation.

Studious vs Impulsive

Short term vs Long term

Unless we know the length and breadth of Indian NPLs and EfficiencyQuotient of its SOEs ... numbers don't matter. And what everyone fails to appreciate is the PensionCrisis that is just around the corner for India... despite have very young population....

Indian government is too large and too expensive .... Pension. Pensions. Pensions.

Same goes for Pakistan as well!

What we have seen in the Western media regarding IoJK or Muslims of MaqboozaHindustan was/is a pressure tactic for ModiRegime to shape up and focus on agreed things to open up the economy for the DollarSystem to make a nest.

GCC is just adding the need push the above mention pressure tactic @Ace of Spades


Mangus

P.S. It is useless to compare Pakistan to India ....in the context above.... India is the only country in Asia/World which has to potential to become a Challenger to China if it fully integerated into the DollarSystem. Choise is Indian...conseqences for everyone!
This is what I have been thinking lately. It is quite evident that sooner (not later), Many companies, Airlines, Countries will sue China for the Spread of virus, This is what human nature does when it faces trouble, “Blame to vent frustration”, while China is definitely to be blamed partially for this spread and pandemic (No offense to Chinese members but truth is often Bitter).

So, Not now but eventually industries will relocate, We will see Indigenization drive And industrialization in many countries sooner in this decade, Given the investors are given some reliefs to setup plants, This will eventually by the end of 2030, China’s export graph will go down very much to non recoverable extent, This in turn will to some extent, Affect CPEC overall as well as OBOR.

Game is in China’s hands now, The weapon is Yuan...

It is not easy to cut off Chinese factories and relocate them to local countries, Raw material sourcing problems, Other local issues related to documentation, Labor costs, supply demand and domestic competition. World will change this time. China will lose some of its significance but the king Won’t give up so easily.

@Mangus Ortus Novem Head to the other world.
 
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Any graduate from LUMS and IBA will do a better job then her. She can pass on the data to these insitutions for verification.

Question is, are you now fully aware of fudging in numbers done by Indian establishment?

Yes, because we have an INDEPENDENT AUDITING AGENCY CALLED THE CAG (Comptroller and Auditor General (CAG) of India) and the Public Accounts Committee (PAC) who's Exclusive job is to Verify data.

Too bad you can't have anything comparable. So your confusion is understandable.
 
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Yes, because we have an INDEPENDENT AUDITING AGENCY CALLED THE CAG (Comptroller and Auditor General (CAG) of India) and the Public Accounts Committee (PAC) who's Exclusive job is to Verify data.

Too bad you can't have anything comparable. So your confusion is understandable.


Whole world is calling our BS and your fudged numbers sunshine. Even among you, with little bit of sense are calling spade a spade.
 
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Pls quote articles from 1990 too. Why go back just 10 years.


So india has become developed, rich and a superpower since 1990?........lol..........:lol:.......:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:.........you probably are thinking about China.......:azn:

Yes, because we have an INDEPENDENT AUDITING AGENCY CALLED THE CAG (Comptroller and Auditor General (CAG) of India) and the Public Accounts Committee (PAC) who's Exclusive job is to Verify data.

Too bad you can't have anything comparable. So your confusion is understandable.





india = FAKE NEWS, PROPAGANDA & LIES:

https://thenextweb.com/security/201...ites-caught-pushing-anti-pakistan-propaganda/

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-50749764
 
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