Is conversion necessary for social work, asks Rajnath

[SrNair]

@SrNair @Tshering22 @MokshaVimukthi Uncle Sam may be indirectly funding religious conversion in India

Nothing that we don't know already but still a good read

Our GoI had already intiated the blocking of NGOs fund just after the LS election.That is why the reaction is came from US President during his visit to India.For that reaction their followers in India just made an excuse through vandalization in Church.One of CCTV image just proved that.

But our guys did a commendable job when they highlight the vandalization of Hindu temples in US.After that dose Obama was totally shutdown from retard statements.
A lots of NGOs are already closed down .

Like that article Christianity was always a part of US foreignpolicy.
Look what is happenening in Africa.Just look what happened to Sudan.
Two known religion that is still against those two Abrahamic religionare Hinduism and Judaism.In that Judaism is not a challenge to Christianity .You knowsthe reasons.
But Hinduism is still remain out of reach.
And strongbase of Hinduism and its soft power is just undermining the advantages of Christianity.Yoga is one example .Yoga is a contribution of Hinduism and Buddhism and it is started from India.
But that is already influenced a lot of western nations.To counter that Christians started ChristianYoga .But still water cant substitute the. blood.Brother of Christianity ,the f Islam was always a stubborn rival of their brother .So their plan under the US is just successful.Look at the reputation of Islamism in the world.

Hinduism is the strongest unifying factor of India.

 

[jamahir]

Yoga is one example

yoga is mental disease... we see the "genius" yoga brought to india in the last 2900 years of "indian culture" existence.

Hinduism is the strongest unifying factor of India.

and i reject that dictatorial imposition.

 

[magudi]

yoga is mental disease... we see the "genius" yoga brought to india in the last 2900 years of "indian culture" existence.



and i reject that dictatorial imposition.

Don't waste your time talking to these people , what more you expect from man made doll worshippers? Am not advocating any religion but even being an atheist would make immensely more sense than Idol worshipping

Edit :- no offence just wanted to expose jamahir's mentality, though he did play it mildly safe while quoting me(thanked also) , the fact remains - he hates us

 

[jamahir]

Don't waste your time talking to these people , what more you expect from man made doll worshippers? Am not advocating any religion but even being an atheist would make immensely more sense than Idol worshipping

well, i too don't believe in mysticism ( prayer and ritual ).

one thread yesterday spoke of kirket player muhammad shami's village gathering its mullahs for "special prayers" towards the victory of indian kirket team... and we know what happened.

another thread spoke of a young fellow in tamil nadu cutting off his tongue as offering to the gods because he feared the indian kirket team not able to make the runs australia had made in the first innings... needless to say, the cut tongue offering did not work.

 

[SrNair]

yoga is mental disease... we see the "genius" yoga brought to india in the last 2900 years of "indian culture" existence.



and i reject that dictatorial imposition.

May Gaddafi will give something much better than the Yoga

Dictatorial imposition my a$$.
Go and read the first chapter of Green book by ColGaddafi

 

[jamahir]

Go and read the first chapter of Green book by ColGaddafi

green book, part one, chapter one...

THE INSTRUMENT OF GOVERNMENT

The instrument of government is the prime political problem confronting human communities (The problem of the instrument of government entails questions of the following kind. What form should the exercise of authority assume? How ought societies to organize themselves politically in the modern world?)

Even conflict within the family is often the result of the failure to resolve this problem of authority. It has clearly become more serious with the emergence of modern societies.

People today face this persistent question in new and pressing ways. Communities are exposed to the risks of uncertainty, and suffer the grave consequences of wrong answers. Yet none has succeeded in answering it conclusively and democratically. THE GREEN BOOK presents the ultimate solution to the problem of the proper instrument of government.

All political systems in the world today are a product of the struggle for power between alternative instruments of government. This struggle may be peaceful or armed, as is evidenced among classes, sects, tribes, parties or individuals. The outcome is always the victory of a particular governing structure - be it that of an individual, group, party or class - and the defeat of the people; the defeat of genuine democracy.

Political struggle that results in the victory of a candidate with, for example, 51 per cent of the votes leads to a dictatorial governing body in the guise of a false democracy, since 49 per cent of the electorate is ruled by an instrument of government they did not vote for, but which has been imposed upon them. Such is dictatorship. Besides, this political conflict may produce a governing body that represents only a minority. For when votes are distributed among several candidates, though one polls more than any other, the sum of the votes received by those who received fewer votes might well constitute an overwhelming majority. However, the candidate with fewer votes wins and his success is regarded as legitimate and democratic! In actual fact, dictatorship is established under the cover of false democracy. This is the reality of the political systems prevailing in the world today. They are dictatorial systems and it is evident that they falsify genuine democracy.

what is your point??

 

[SrNair]

green book, part one, chapter one...


what is your point??

Good .Go and study each and every chapter

 

[jamahir]

Good .Go and study each and every chapter

i have... i recommend you study too, especially this ( The Green Book - I )... it describes the way to true democracy.

 

[SrNair]

No thanks.I have a lots of other things to study .A retard dictator's retard book is not my option.We dont need that true democracy.

i have... i recommend you study too, especially this ( The Green Book - I )... it describes the way to true democracy.

 

[jamahir]

No thanks.I have a lots of other things to study .A retard dictator's retard book is not my option.We dont need that true democracy.

then you are simply a bigot, who will reject off-hand not because of something not making sense but because he is a muslim and socialist.

 

[SrNair]

then you are simply a bigot, who will reject off-hand not because of something not making sense but because he is a muslim and socialist.

Go and told that to the poor victims of the Lockerbie bombing.They will give nice reply for that.
Or go ask to the Libyans themselves.


If you cant do both of these then cry me a river

 

[jamahir]

Go and told that to the poor victims of the Lockerbie bombing.They will give nice reply for that.

i have replied to that on pdf at least three times.

Or go ask to the Libyans themselves.

most libyans want the jamahiriya back... they want libyan to be green again.

besides, they allowed gaddafi to be guide of the revolution for decades.

and it was because of them that nato used 35+ militaries plus proxies to overthrow jamahiriya system.

 

[SrNair]

Of course Libyans will prefer Jamahariya and Gaddafi for sending their daughters in the women squad of Gaddafi.
You are talking very well for Libyans .

Any way we dont that Jamahariya here.
You can go and proclaim in Libya if you want that.

i have replied to that on pdf at least three times.



most libyans want the jamahiriya back... they want libyan to be green again.

besides, they allowed gaddafi to be guide of the revolution for decades.

and it was because of them that nato used 35+ militaries plus proxies to overthrow jamahiriya system.

 

[Hindustani78]

Church attacks: PM Narendra Modi has taken firm stand on religious freedom, others don't seem to be in accord - The Economic Times
By Vasudha Venugopal, ET Bureau | 28 Mar, 2015, 02.05AM IST

NEW DELHI: Can the schism between Church and State in India be healed, given the ambiguous nature of some of the statements emanating from those in charge? While Prime Minister Narendra Modi was vigorously unequivocal about religious freedom in his February statement, home minister Rajnath Singh seemed to be singing from a different hymn sheet earlier this week.

"A statement like this coming from the home minister, especially at a time when there are attacks on churches almost every other day, shows the government has neither heard our cries nor is listening to our pleas," said Father Dominic Emmanuel, spokesman for the New Delhi Catholic Archdiocese.

Singh had suggested that those who wanted to do good work should do so without expecting this to culminate in conversions, which looked like a pot shot against missionaries and another way of restating a long-standing article of faith for the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh ( RSS), the ideological source of hardline Hindutva.


'Govt Needs to Do More'

"The minister's remarks about linking service to conversions shows he has no regard for data that proves no Christian conversion in the recent years has been unlawful," Emmanuel said.


"How do we even respond to this kind of language?" Church leaders had met on Tuesday to discuss Singh's statement amid growing unease within sections of the community, as articulated by former top police officer Julio Ribeiro, who wrote of feeling like a stranger in his own country. Spiritualist Jaggi Vasudev, however, said attacks on churches should not be given a religious colour. "When you look at the damage done to churches, it does not look like it has been done because of hatred.Minorities are not under any kind of siege here.

They have all rights as citizens..." Top members of Christian clergy have met more than six times to discuss the situation. There is an element of frustration that the government is apparently reluctant to dub the attacks communal, which has bred suspicion, some of the members said.

The government needs to do more to create a sense of safety, suggested Thomas D'Souza, archbishop of Kolkata. "The fears of the Christian community are not misplaced," he said. "The security aspect is diminishing for us. This is because the people who speak divisive language are not being challenged, not being stopped by the government. This makes us wonder if the government tacitly supports their actions."

 

[The_Showstopper]

How is this even a proof. MSM?

This same MSM ignores actual problems when we or the other communities point out about conversions used by church or clerics or even rioting mobs of muslims.

Sorry, man.

Sources that post only one side or even a lie don't count.

Taali do haathon se bajti hai.

It's a statement given by the concerned person and reported by media. You can cry foul over MSM but the fact remains unchanged.

Ask the GOI, they did not ban those NGO's for nothing.

They get what, well they impose such an ideology which favours them and not the national interest.

Your very own BJP Government imposed restrictions based on financial improprieties and not based on "anti-national" activities.

Source: More Grounds Proposed for Cancelling Registration of NGOs

and you are part of it c****** ..

There was no need to get abusive. I would like to believe that you are a sober guy and I hope I am not wrong.