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[TheImmortal]

I would rather see our UCAVs getting A2A missiles for interceptions esp this one. They have highly reduced RCS and can easily carry 2 BVR and 2 WVR missiles.

1) Too slow

2) No radar to guide missile to target region so BVR won’t work.

 

[WudangMaster]

A piloted sofre mahi might still be in development, especially if it uses knowledge from the rq170. If a strong enough engine becomes available then either Shahed 171 or one or both of the sofre mahis or a modified qaher or upscaled/modified kowsar could serve as viable air frames.
Also, how much are turbo fans needed vs turbo jets, if the aircraft were to operate within the domestic airspace in an air defense role? Months ago Evilwesterners kept saying that turbojets could serve an airforce in a defensive posture operating within the country. How much more cost and maintenance and down time would it entail?

Also, a good airborne radar is needed but that is only a matter of time and investment to make it so. Azarmehr recently stated in one of the recent MehrAein interviews the enormous willpower and costs required in developing a manned fighter and there is not enough of it currently to make it happen any faster than it already is...

 

[sahureka2]

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[WudangMaster]

Azarmehr recently stated in one of the recent MehrAein interviews the enormous willpower and costs required in developing a manned fighter and there is not enough of it currently to make it happen any faster than it already is...

from 01:14:00 onwards

 

[drmeson]

1) Too slow

2) No radar to guide missile to target region so BVR won’t work.

1) Almost all of the A2A engagements happen below subsonic speed. Future advancement in Jahesh Turbofan will physically enhance the performance even further.

2) We are TOT-producing KLJ-6F (93 KM, 8 targets, 60 Kg) now for Kowsar now. It can be fixed on Shahed Saegheh then the vehicle can serve the A2A role. Besides even without ARH, it can still use longer range IR guided missiles on the lines of R-77T.

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Imagine being an enemy, your airspace is suddenly invaded by 24 low RCS flying wings that can simultaneously fire some 30-40 BVR missiles at your own interceptors.

 

[TheImmortal]

1) Almost all of the A2A engagements happen below subsonic speed. Future advancement in Jahesh Turbofan will physically enhance the performance even further.

2) We are TOT-producing KLJ-6F (93 KM, 8 targets, 60 Kg) now for Kowsar now. It can be fixed on Shahed Saegheh then the vehicle can serve the A2A role. Besides even without ARH, it can still use longer range IR guided missiles on the lines of R-77T.

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Imagine being an enemy, your airspace is suddenly invaded by 24 low RCS flying wings that can simultaneously fire some 30-40 BVR missiles at your own interceptors.

You need something more along the lines of Lockheed D-21 design which had a top speed of 2,500 mph and range of 4000+ KM.

This can both be high altitude bomber and interceptor thus bringing down overall cost.

No engine Iran currently produces is suitable for the role you are envisioning. But it could be a good idea with further Iranian advancement in the field.

 

[Hack-Hook]

Dude, your country Iran is synonyms with terrorism and female oppresion. We are in the 21st century. Freedom and rights should be a given unless you are born a female in Iran.... Sad....

Dude, your country India is synonyms with terrorism, oppression and female rape. We are in the 21st century. Freedom and rights should be a given unless you are born a female in India.... Sad....
the only country that elder of a village sentence female of a family to be raped because a cousin of that family eloped with a girl from another country is India , the only country that mob linch people for rumor of killing an animal is India ....

 

[Hack-Hook]

I would rather see our UCAVs getting A2A missiles for interceptions esp this one. They have highly reduced RCS and can easily carry 2 BVR and 2 WVR missiles.

but last year it happened

karrar equipped with Azaraksh missile and machine gun

1) Too slow

2) No radar to guide missile to target region so BVR won’t work.

well Iran seems have plan of using karrar for such missions

 

[TheImmortal]

well Iran seems have plan of using karrar for such missions

Not a plan, just bored engineers. They also strapped on a manpad to Mohajer drone once.

This might be a threat against helicopters. Fighter jets, won’t do anything.

 

[WudangMaster]

 

[Hack-Hook]

Not a plan, just bored engineers. They also strapped on a manpad to Mohajer drone once.

This might be a threat against helicopters. Fighter jets, won’t do anything.

usa also once tried to use stinger , it failed .this time its a missile based on AIM-9 , not the best missile out there but it is fire and forget heat seeking missile that is still a serious threat to any fighter.

they add electrooptic seeker to karrar , modified it to be compatible with A2A missile and added a machine gun to it , don't tell me its just out of boredom .

Karrar in itself have the potential of being used for such roles , what i see in last year wargame was a promising prototype , they need to work on some aspect of it and it will be a real threat to any fighter

 

[TheImmortal]

usa also once tried to use stinger , it failed .this time its a missile based on AIM-9 , not the best missile out there but it is fire and forget heat seeking missile that is still a serious threat to any fighter.

they add electrooptic seeker to karrar , modified it to be compatible with A2A missile and added a machine gun to it , don't tell me its just out of boredom .

Karrar in itself have the potential of being used for such roles , what i see in last year wargame was a promising prototype , they need to work on some aspect of it and it will be a real threat to any fighter

Will never be a threat to F-16, F-18, F-35, F-22

Good luck for Karrar to try to intercept those fighters and stay in range for the AIM-9 to get a lock.

Better luck using it against Transport aircraft, AWACS, Big recon drones, B-52’s.

 

[Mr Iran Eye]

It is necessary to take for tolls the arguments of General Theimmortal on the Iranian combat aircraft, he has no intuition on the subject, Iran to anicate the beginning of the construction of heavy hunter in 2020 but when we really know the process Announcement of Iran, it must be understood that they are much more advanced than they dissect it

Iran hides us some big surprise and I can not wait for some secrets to embarrass some people who have no intuition

The Air Air Trials of the Karrar drone is great for future drones, it's a major and powerful advance for Iran. This control of the air air launch by the Iranian drones will be very dangerous for the enemy.

I would like to see the Cockpit du Kowsar 2 monoplace. The Kowsar Monoplace version would have other progress, it is to see

 

[N_Al40]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1515799623444668424

https://twitter.com/x/status/1515303021164474369

 

[Ich]

Our limitation with Ti Alloy and Turbofan (at least in a class of RD-33/93) will keep us down on modern fighter jet production at home.

Doesnt Mapna already produce Ti-alloy blades? Sure, the cooling of the blades for a military turbofan is different, but should not be such a problem.