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OldTwilight said:
the difference is that I interpret his words close to what he said , the Salar Haqq is seeking hidden meaning in his word ...
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You were taking a borderline situation which his words were not meant to address.

You say what if the US declares it is going to attack Iran no matter what Iran does, while at the same time assembling a major strike force against Iran? Well guess what, that is a declaration of war, and it is tantamount to starting a war in international law.

So by the Supreme Leader's guidelines, Iran is not obliged to sit idle in such a situation, because the US would already have started the war by its declaration, even if no shots are fired yet.

Khamenei said
  • that Nuke is Haram and we won't research , build , keep and use these kind of weapon in any circumstance ...
  • He said we won't be starter in war with USA ....

so , what is clear message from these 2 sentence ?!
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Sepah generals publicly announced Iran would not sit idle if the US conducts a major troop build up with the aim of invading Iran. They made these declarations so as to rule out any misinterpration of the Leader's guidelines. And the Leader never contradicted them.

This proves that your interpretation of Seyyed Khamenei's words does not apply.
 
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Large-scale air exercise, Iranian F-14s make big surprises

In an article dated August 2020, Business Insider asks, "Why has the United States decided to destroy all of its old F-14 Tomcats rather than let anyone buy them?" "Before answering:" During the war of Iran against Iraq, the Iranian air force, its ultra experienced pilots showed such great competence that only one Iranian Tomcat could release sky from enemy planes without even firing a single shot.

On the other hand, from the ground most of the successful shootings of Iraqi Tomcats came from SAM batteries that Iranian operators fired copiously ... This is in essence to prevent Iran from having attached parts or even F technology. -14 that the United States ended up withdrawing their Tomcat in 2007, reducing a $ 38 million plane to a heap of junk. The idea of selling rare F-14 parts to Iran so that it does not have to overhaul its own inventories and make them worry about its adversaries since the Iranians are masters of reverse engineering, was absurd. The "Iranian" F-14 has something to surprise us ”.

And the author of the article does not think so well put. On the first day of the exercises of the Iranian Air Force, which is obviously preparing for major air combat in these times of "normalization" where the United States is selling the Emirates 50 F-35s or even giving the green light to To deliver F-22s, the flagship of the US airline industry to Israel, intense events have occurred. Indeed, the fighting began with a clear show of force of the Su-24 of the Air Force which following the principle of surprise, identical to what the Iranian armed force does on the ground "the strategic bombers Soukhoi Su-24 successfully destroyed ground targets, including fictitious enemy radars, carrying a variety of optimized, high-precision missiles weighing up to half a ton and obviously made in Iran.

This phase aimed to destroy enemy land radars, just to blind its Air Defense. Then came the turn of the F-14s, the very ones from which Business Insider starts: According to the spokesperson for the exercise, Brigadier General Goudarzi, “it was above all about reproducing a fight and we chose to place F-14 and MiG-29 in combat situation. Since the Iranian F-14s have long been "tamed", many devices are on board. The same is true of a national radar that Iranian experts talk about quite often without going so far as to explain the components or the characteristics. In Isphahan, which is home to the stupidity of the Americans the only F-14 overhall center in the world, this radar capability was therefore tested on Monday and the result was more than "satisfactory"

Since the F-22 with which the Americans hope to shoot down the Iranian F-14s is supposed to be stealthy, it is therefore a "capital capability": "The radar in question manufactured by Iranian technicians at the The effect of this aircraft specific to aerial combat has a range of several hundred kilometers. It is a radar which operates in synergy with the original radar of the F-14, again optimized by our technicians. It is a device capable of intercepting with the same power as AWACs. Especially since the analog cabin of the American F-14 has been transformed into digital here in Iran ”, said Brigadier General Farhad Goudarzi, the spokesperson for the exercise.

During the exercise the F-14s were refueled in flight by Boeing-707 tanker planes in preparation for low-altitude upper cover operations. And the last but not the least, the radar designed for the effect of the F-14 has engaged in electronic warfare, testing advanced communication systems within secure platforms connected by cable and wireless. The operation took place even as reconnaissance drones, Kaman-14, monitored the assault course and the brand new nationally-made Samat optical camera, gleaned data and wiretapped. The F-22 may be stealthy, but it would be difficult to escape the Iranian F-14, ”the general said.

“By the way, this aerial combat that we are preparing will involve a diverse fleet of aircraft. Hence the variety of planes engaged on the first day of the exercises. Saeqeh who detonated the targets with cruise missiles and extremely precise smart bombs. Some seven Iranian air bases were also involved in the preparation of these air battles, ”said the general, referring to articles that were too optimistic in US magazines and too sure of the superiority of the US Air Force against the US Army. Iranian look.

In fact, "given the intelligence of our pilots, their war experience, which the Americans lack, the first USA / Iran face-to-face in the sky could be too rich in surprises. The series of plane crashes US in recent months, including almost all range of so-called sophisticated US planes (F-18, F-35; F-22 ...) give indications in this direction. Indeed the pilots of all these devices have missed their flights while operating in combat situations and on air bases. The US aircraft command and control system appears to be too fragile to jamming and electronic suppression. Our F-14s have worked well on this weakness ".

In a recent article titled "How Iran Could Take Down an F-35 Fighter in a War," The National Interest wrote that the F-5, driven by Iranian pilots would possess the agility necessary to gain the advantage over an F -35. The same will be true of the F-14s: “Aerodynamically, the F-5 will always be what we call a category three fighter, where the F-35 and F-22 are now category five fighters. Compared to modern hunters, it is underpowered not to mention that it has no stealth other than its small size. But with just a few modifications, which the Iranians did, the F-5 is turning into a threat plane with a legitimate sting. The latest Iranian upgrades include a [scanning electronically] radar, good [radar warning] gear, chaff and flares, a jamming pod, and a helmet-mounted spotting system for IR (infrared guided missiles) ) offline. Ditto for the Iranian F-14s which could prove fatal for our F-22s, ”wrote The National Interest.
 
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Mr Iran Eye said:
Large-scale air exercise, Iranian F-14s make big surprises

In an article dated August 2020, Business Insider asks, "Why has the United States decided to destroy all of its old F-14 Tomcats rather than let anyone buy them?" "Before answering:" During the war of Iran against Iraq, the Iranian air force, its ultra experienced pilots showed such great competence that only one Iranian Tomcat could release sky from enemy planes without even firing a single shot.

On the other hand, from the ground most of the successful shootings of Iraqi Tomcats came from SAM batteries that Iranian operators fired copiously ... This is in essence to prevent Iran from having attached parts or even F technology. -14 that the United States ended up withdrawing their Tomcat in 2007, reducing a $ 38 million plane to a heap of junk. The idea of selling rare F-14 parts to Iran so that it does not have to overhaul its own inventories and make them worry about its adversaries since the Iranians are masters of reverse engineering, was absurd. The "Iranian" F-14 has something to surprise us ”.

And the author of the article does not think so well put. On the first day of the exercises of the Iranian Air Force, which is obviously preparing for major air combat in these times of "normalization" where the United States is selling the Emirates 50 F-35s or even giving the green light to To deliver F-22s, the flagship of the US airline industry to Israel, intense events have occurred. Indeed, the fighting began with a clear show of force of the Su-24 of the Air Force which following the principle of surprise, identical to what the Iranian armed force does on the ground "the strategic bombers Soukhoi Su-24 successfully destroyed ground targets, including fictitious enemy radars, carrying a variety of optimized, high-precision missiles weighing up to half a ton and obviously made in Iran.

This phase aimed to destroy enemy land radars, just to blind its Air Defense. Then came the turn of the F-14s, the very ones from which Business Insider starts: According to the spokesperson for the exercise, Brigadier General Goudarzi, “it was above all about reproducing a fight and we chose to place F-14 and MiG-29 in combat situation. Since the Iranian F-14s have long been "tamed", many devices are on board. The same is true of a national radar that Iranian experts talk about quite often without going so far as to explain the components or the characteristics. In Isphahan, which is home to the stupidity of the Americans the only F-14 overhall center in the world, this radar capability was therefore tested on Monday and the result was more than "satisfactory"

Since the F-22 with which the Americans hope to shoot down the Iranian F-14s is supposed to be stealthy, it is therefore a "capital capability": "The radar in question manufactured by Iranian technicians at the The effect of this aircraft specific to aerial combat has a range of several hundred kilometers. It is a radar which operates in synergy with the original radar of the F-14, again optimized by our technicians. It is a device capable of intercepting with the same power as AWACs. Especially since the analog cabin of the American F-14 has been transformed into digital here in Iran ”, said Brigadier General Farhad Goudarzi, the spokesperson for the exercise.

During the exercise the F-14s were refueled in flight by Boeing-707 tanker planes in preparation for low-altitude upper cover operations. And the last but not the least, the radar designed for the effect of the F-14 has engaged in electronic warfare, testing advanced communication systems within secure platforms connected by cable and wireless. The operation took place even as reconnaissance drones, Kaman-14, monitored the assault course and the brand new nationally-made Samat optical camera, gleaned data and wiretapped. The F-22 may be stealthy, but it would be difficult to escape the Iranian F-14, ”the general said.

“By the way, this aerial combat that we are preparing will involve a diverse fleet of aircraft. Hence the variety of planes engaged on the first day of the exercises. Saeqeh who detonated the targets with cruise missiles and extremely precise smart bombs. Some seven Iranian air bases were also involved in the preparation of these air battles, ”said the general, referring to articles that were too optimistic in US magazines and too sure of the superiority of the US Air Force against the US Army. Iranian look.

In fact, "given the intelligence of our pilots, their war experience, which the Americans lack, the first USA / Iran face-to-face in the sky could be too rich in surprises. The series of plane crashes US in recent months, including almost all range of so-called sophisticated US planes (F-18, F-35; F-22 ...) give indications in this direction. Indeed the pilots of all these devices have missed their flights while operating in combat situations and on air bases. The US aircraft command and control system appears to be too fragile to jamming and electronic suppression. Our F-14s have worked well on this weakness ".

In a recent article titled "How Iran Could Take Down an F-35 Fighter in a War," The National Interest wrote that the F-5, driven by Iranian pilots would possess the agility necessary to gain the advantage over an F -35. The same will be true of the F-14s: “Aerodynamically, the F-5 will always be what we call a category three fighter, where the F-35 and F-22 are now category five fighters. Compared to modern hunters, it is underpowered not to mention that it has no stealth other than its small size. But with just a few modifications, which the Iranians did, the F-5 is turning into a threat plane with a legitimate sting. The latest Iranian upgrades include a [scanning electronically] radar, good [radar warning] gear, chaff and flares, a jamming pod, and a helmet-mounted spotting system for IR (infrared guided missiles) ) offline. Ditto for the Iranian F-14s which could prove fatal for our F-22s, ”wrote The National Interest.
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I wonder if these upgrades are the AM standard that we have seen examples of in various exhibitions over the years. Also, do all the tomcats have these upgrades now or just the ones with the new asia minor camo scheme.
 
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SalarHaqq said:
You were taking a borderline situation which his words were not meant to address.

You say what if the US declares it is going to attack Iran no matter what Iran does, while at the same time assembling a major strike force against Iran? Well guess what, that is a declaration of war, and it is tantamount to starting a war in international law.

So by the Supreme Leader's guidelines, Iran is not obliged to sit idle in such a situation, because the US would already have started the war by its declaration, even if no shots are fired yet.



Sepah generals publicly announced Iran would not sit idle if the US conducts a major troop build up with the aim of invading Iran. They made these declarations so as to rule out any misinterpration of the Leader's guidelines. And the Leader never contradicted them.

This proves that your interpretation of Seyyed Khamenei's words does not apply.
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Well , USA already have enough assets to make major assault against our infrastructure in region ... look at the realty
 
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OldTwilight said:
Well , USA already have enough assets to make major assault against our infrastructure in region ... look at the realty
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The assets America has in the region can be easily obliterated in several days worth of Iranian precision Ballistic Missile as well as cruise and suicide drone attacks if need be.

Destroying their runways, ammo depots, radars, hangars, fuel stations, barracks, air-ports, logistics, regional command centers and the like are well within Iran's capability to do so. It's what happens after that first-salvo that matters the most.

SalarHaqq is absolutely right when he says that Iran will not just sit idly by whilst America brings in men and equipment for an invasion. It would be totally inept if Iran just sat around and just did nothing about it.
 
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Blue In Green said:
The assets America has in the region can be easily obliterated in several days worth of Iranian precision Ballistic Missile as well as cruise and suicide drone attacks if need be.

Destroying their runways, ammo depots, radars, hangars, fuel stations, barracks, air-ports, logistics, regional command centers and the like are well within Iran's capability to do so. It's what happens after that first-salvo that matters the most.

SalarHaqq is absolutely right when he says that Iran will not just sit idly by whilst America brings in men and equipment for an invasion. It would be totally inept if Iran just sat around and just did nothing about it.
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I don't fool myself ... Im not that kind of people ...
 
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OldTwilight said:
Well , USA already have enough assets to make major assault against our infrastructure in region ... look at the realty
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you're not looking at reality though..you're looking at your perception of reality. I wont say much about this, but all i will say is this - the past few decades of war have proven that money and military equipment alone are overrated and wont determine the winner of any war. Iranian govt and military understand this very well. War requires ALOT of different things to be aligned and for the US, many of the important aspects arent and cant be aligned, which is why US is currently choosing resentful peace.

How dangerous is a grown lion with a broken jaw???
 
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So what do you think is in the rounded projection underneath the possible AEW?
 
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