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[Sineva]

Military cargo plane crashes in Iran, 15 killed

https://af.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idAFKCN1P80EM
https://af.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idAFKCN1P80EM
DUBAI (Reuters) - A Boeing 707 military cargo plane crashed in bad weather on Monday west of the Iranian capital, killing 15 out of the 16 people on board, the Iranian army said.A flight engineer survived and was taken to hospital, the army said in a statement carried by the semi-official Fars news agency.

The plane went down near Fath airport, near Karaj in the central Iranian province of Alborz.“A Boeing cargo 707 place carrying meat from Bishkek in Kyrgyzstan had an emergency landing at Fath airport today ... the flight engineer has been dispatched to the hospital,” the army said.“It exited the runway during the landing and caught fire after hitting the wall at the end of the runway,” the army.The army’s statement came after some confusion over who owned the plane. Earlier on Monday, a spokesman for Iran’s civil aviation told had told state TV that the plane belonged to Kyrgyzstan, while a spokeswoman for Kyrgyzstan’s Manas airport said the plane belonged to Iran’s Payam Air.State TV said rescue teams had been sent to the area, between the airports of Fath and Payam. It showed footage of burning wreckage of the plane and a plume of smoke rising from the crash site.

 

[mohsen]

Military cargo plane crashes in Iran, 15 killed

https://af.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idAFKCN1P80EM
DUBAI (Reuters) - A Boeing 707 military cargo plane crashed in bad weather on Monday west of the Iranian capital, killing 15 out of the 16 people on board, the Iranian army said.A flight engineer survived and was taken to hospital, the army said in a statement carried by the semi-official Fars news agency.

The plane went down near Fath airport, near Karaj in the central Iranian province of Alborz.“A Boeing cargo 707 place carrying meat from Bishkek in Kyrgyzstan had an emergency landing at Fath airport today ... the flight engineer has been dispatched to the hospital,” the army said.“It exited the runway during the landing and caught fire after hitting the wall at the end of the runway,” the army.The army’s statement came after some confusion over who owned the plane. Earlier on Monday, a spokesman for Iran’s civil aviation told had told state TV that the plane belonged to Kyrgyzstan, while a spokeswoman for Kyrgyzstan’s Manas airport said the plane belonged to Iran’s Payam Air.State TV said rescue teams had been sent to the area, between the airports of Fath and Payam. It showed footage of burning wreckage of the plane and a plume of smoke rising from the crash site.

Stupid pilot has landed in a wrong airport!

 

[Cthulhu]

Stupid pilot has landed in a wrong airport!

Maybe it was an emergency situation.(?)

 

[Dexon]

 

[mohsen]

Maybe it was an emergency situation.(?)

No, There were two airports in Karaj and pilot has landed in wrong airport, then he makes the second mistake and goes beyond the runway!

 

[Navigator]

There was only one mistake, but deadly. The pliot landed B-707 on small Fath airdrome with runway length of only 1311 meters instead Payam airport with runway length of only 3658m. 1311 meters too short for such big plane as B-707 therefore it goes beyond the runway.

 

[Hack-Hook]

The army’s statement came after some confusion over who owned the plane. Earlier on Monday, a spokesman for Iran’s civil aviation told had told state TV that the plane belonged to Kyrgyzstan, while a spokeswoman for Kyrgyzstan’s Manas airport said the plane belonged to Iran’s Payam Air

Did they decided whose plan it was?

 

[scythian500]

Maybe it was an emergency situation.(?)

It was an emergency landing.. people testified about smoke coming out of engines while approaching the airport

 

[yavar]

 

[Sineva]

Did they decided whose plan it was?

Considering that its been reported to be a 707,I`d say its probably iranian.

No, There were two airports in Karaj and pilot has landed in wrong airport, then he makes the second mistake and goes beyond the runway!

From the sound of it there was only one mistake and that was him landing at the wrong airport,the runway there was just too short for the 707.
Hopefully in future they`ll do something to make recognition of the 2 airports easier.

 

[VEVAK]

Considering that its been reported to be a 707,I`d say its probably iranian.


From the sound of it there was only one mistake and that was him landing at the wrong airport,the runway there was just too short for the 707.
Hopefully in future they`ll do something to make recognition of the 2 airports easier.

It's just one Airport the other is a recently expended IRGC Helo Base....

Any pilot that can fly a 707 would never confuse a strip that's almost 4km in length with a 1000 meter long strip (unless he was drunk or something) and mehrabad is only seconds away (in the Air) so he had two 4km long runways at two different airports on either side and with an Aircraft that size Air control should have been monitoring it's speed, altitude, heading and it's coordinates upon approach so it doesn't add up.... Neither does transporting meat with a military cargo plane from Kyrgyzstan

 

[Navigator]

Two month ago there civillian MD-88 in last moment avoided such death mistake.

Taban Airlines flight 6225 from Mashhad to Payam, Iran, twice attempted to land at the wrong airport (Fat'h Airport).
The aircraft, an MD-88 departed Mashhad at 10:16 local time (06:46 UTC). The flight was cleared for an approach to runway 30 at Payam Airport. However, the crew mistook the 3000 ft runway 31L of Fat'h Airport for Payam Airport. The first approach was aborted at 11:26 hours and the aircraft circled for another attempt. The second attempt. This approach was aborted at 11:29 and the aircraft continued for a safe landing at Payam Airport at 11:31.
AAID Iran reported that the flight reached an altitude of 1 m above ground level during one of the approaches with three preceding EGPWS warnings. The aircraft also experienced 2 abnormal out of limit bank-angles before reaching 100 feet after the go-around.
The investigators also stated that the flight crew failed to notify authorities about the incident and thus also failed to secure the Cockpit Voice Recorder.

https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/wiki.php?id=219603

 

[scythian500]

It was a technical failure as announced.. The was a fire on engines visible by people on the ground.. it is clear.. the pilot was very experienced pilot with the rank of General..so as it is logical, the airplane lost control and it was the only option ahead.. They probably did not have enough lift to take it as far as Payam... simple as that..

 

[mohsen]

It was a technical failure as announced.. The was a fire on engines visible by people on the ground.. it is clear.. the pilot was very experienced pilot with the rank of General..so as it is logical, the airplane lost control and it was the only option ahead.. They probably did not have enough lift to take it as far as Payam... simple as that..

No malfunction.
نماینده مردم کرج در مجلس در گفت‌وگوی اختصاصی با فارس: سیستم فنی بویینگ 707 سالم بود/ علت حادثه خطای مهندس پرواز است

 

[Sineva]

It's just one Airport the other is a recently expended IRGC Helo Base....

Any pilot that can fly a 707 would never confuse a strip that's almost 4km in length with a 1000 meter long strip (unless he was drunk or something) and mehrabad is only seconds away (in the Air) so he had two 4km long runways at two different airports on either side and with an Aircraft that size Air control should have been monitoring it's speed, altitude, heading and it's coordinates upon approach so it doesn't add up.... Neither does transporting meat with a military cargo plane from Kyrgyzstan

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Part of the problem,at least according to some accounts,was that the aircraft was in trouble before it landed,so if thats the case then its likely that the pilot wanted to get it on the ground quickly which may have affected some of his judgement.The main problem tho` is that both of these airports are on virtually the same heading and very close together,and if one had no familiarity with either of these or the area itself,then it would be very,very easy to get confused and at altitude its not so easy to estimate the length of the runway.Sadly as with most of these sorts of crashes human error likely played a critical part,tho I think the layout of these two airports so close to each other was very likely a major contributing factor,perhaps even an accident waiting to happen.

Two month ago there civillian MD-88 in last moment avoided such death mistake.

Taban Airlines flight 6225 from Mashhad to Payam, Iran, twice attempted to land at the wrong airport (Fat'h Airport).
The aircraft, an MD-88 departed Mashhad at 10:16 local time (06:46 UTC). The flight was cleared for an approach to runway 30 at Payam Airport. However, the crew mistook the 3000 ft runway 31L of Fat'h Airport for Payam Airport. The first approach was aborted at 11:26 hours and the aircraft circled for another attempt. The second attempt. This approach was aborted at 11:29 and the aircraft continued for a safe landing at Payam Airport at 11:31.
AAID Iran reported that the flight reached an altitude of 1 m above ground level during one of the approaches with three preceding EGPWS warnings. The aircraft also experienced 2 abnormal out of limit bank-angles before reaching 100 feet after the go-around.
The investigators also stated that the flight crew failed to notify authorities about the incident and thus also failed to secure the Cockpit Voice Recorder.

https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/wiki.php?id=219603

Like I said,an accident waiting to happen.