Iranian warship points weapon at U.S. helicopter, US official says

[Azeri440]

@Azeri440
You're really dumb. Few Iranian missiles can send all of American warships to bed of waters. They have blow 0 chance against Iranian missiles Mr. dumb.

you probably have a bigger chance of getting a decent grade in high school than Iran sending American warships to "bed of waters"

 

[The Last of us]

Lol , a BM isn't just launched in the air and hoping it would hit something , you need some proper intelligence which requires satellites or UAVs , considering your UAVs won't last long against a Carrier Battle Group ( Proper Long Range UAV) , your only hope is satellite , which again you don't have

USN battle group would have 2 AWACS in the air providing constant updates during war time.

maneuvering warhead isn't a new technology and has been around for awhile , with dedicating 2 SM-2/3s per target it removes the room for error.

I was not aware you knew for a fact Iran does not have such satellites. Interesting. As for Iranian UAV's. Iranian uav's have on multiple occasions flew over so called carrier groups for half hours and nothing happened to them. Even granting that Iranian UAV's will not work, Iranian 3000km ranged OTH radar will easily detect their ship in the carrier groups. So once again, you're talking none-sense.

As I said, you're just clueless about what you're commenting about. Manoeuvring warheads do not manoeuvre on a predictable basis so firing two per target will not increase the chances of them being hit all that greatly. Now add this to MIRV and decoys then their ships will in their fantasy stop the BM's. Even if one were to grant them they could knock out most of them, which they wont, All it would take is one missiles to take out of action a carrier or a ship. This is why anti ballistic missile defence is so useless when it comes to modern missiles, but again, you don't understand these things because you're commenting on things beyond your capacity.

 

[scythian500]

You're clueless about what you're talking about. You should stick to the turkish section.

A single US destroyer would get sliced in half by 1 Iranian anti ship ballistic missile like Persian gulf missile or the Hormoz series.

They have little to no defence against such quasi ballistic missiles which have evasive manoeuvring during the terminal phase. Add this to the relative close proximity of their fifth fleet to Iranian missile launched. They have very little time to react to these mach 4-5 missiles. And I am talking about just one systems here i.e the ballistic missiles. Never-mind the other system like sea skimming cruise missiles, sunburn missile, underwater launched missiles we saw recently, thousands of mines.

No one is saying Iranian navy is as powerful as the US navy because that would be a conventional military comparison, but to claim Iran could not stand a chance against 1 US destroyer shows you're clueless in this topic.

you forgot hoot torpedo + a sheer number of combined cruise, BM, mines, etc... plus who said Iran in case of a full scale war will fire couple of missiles to the hosting countries? A hang of Lur or Azeri or Kurd or even Basiji balouchs will occupy UAE in 24 hours...

 

[The Last of us]

you probably have a bigger chance of getting a decent grade in high school than Iran sending American warships to "bed of waters"

You're trying to comment other people's intellect but judging from your comments here, you're far from being intellectually efficient yourself. How does that saying go again? "Those who live in glass houses should not throw stones"

 

[Azeri440]

I was not aware you knew Iran does not have such satellites. Interesting. As for Iranian UAV's. Iranian uav's have on multiple occasions flew over so called carrier groups for half hours and nothing happened to them. Even granting that Iranian UAV's will not work, Iranian 3000km ranged OTH radar will easily detect their ship in the carrier groups. So once again, you're talking none-sense and showing you're clueless.

As I said, you're just clueless about what you're commenting about. Manoeuvring warheads do not manoeuvre on a predictable basis so firing two per target will not increase the chances of them being hit all that greatly. Now add this to MIRV and decoys then their ships will in their fantasy stop the BM's. Even if one were to grant them they could knock out most of them, which they wont, All it would take is one missiles to take out of action a carrier or a ship. This is why anti ballistic missile defence is so useless when it comes to modern missiles, but again, you don't understand these things because you're commenting on things beyond your capacity.

yep , I knew you were a moron and comprehending was not the best point of yours

that's why I put LONG RANGE UAV two times in there , the Iranian UAVs that have flown over US aircraft carriers are tiny UAVs . not to mention those UAVs flew over battle group during peace time and like I mentioned again with 2 AWACS constantly in the air , your UAVs will be detected easily even if let's say US destroyers/cruisers wouldn't of been able to detect them in the first place.

you sure about the 3000km ranged OTH radar? the one in service has a 1100 km range , while the 3000km one is in testing phase and will be put in service in the future. which is also intended for air defence , considering Iran only has 2 of 1100km ranged radars and only one in the future 3000km ranged one , a single target for USN or Air Force to pretty much allow USN to strike its targets without a worry.


Lol , really ? thank you for telling me maneuvering warheads don't maneuver on predictable basis
2 missiles per target eliminates room for error , if one misses the other will hit , like I said maneuvering warhead is not a new technology that has just been invented , it has been around for how many decades?

At that point the third stage separates, and the Lightweight Exo-Atmospheric Projectile (LEAP) kinetic warhead (KW) begins to search for the target using pointing data from the launching ship. The Aerojet throttleable divert and attitude control system (TDACS) allows the kinetic warhead to maneuver in the final phase of the engagement. The KW's sensors identify the target, attempt to identify the most lethal part of the target and steers the KW to that point. If the KW intercepts the target, it provides 130 megajoules (96,000,000 ft·lbf, 31 kg TNT equivalent) of kinetic energy at the point of impact.[9]

RIM-161 Standard Missile 3 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[The Last of us]

yep , I knew you were a moron and comprehending was not the best point of yours

that's why I put LONG RANGE UAV two times in there , the Iranian UAVs that have flown over US aircraft carriers are tiny UAVs . not to mention those UAVs flew over battle group during peace time and like I mentioned again with 2 AWACS constantly in the air , your UAVs will be detected easily even if let's say US destroyers/cruisers wouldn't of been able to detect them in the first place.

you sure about the 3000km ranged OTH radar? the one in service has a 1100 km range , while the 3000km one is in testing phase and will be put in service in the future. which is also intended for air defence , considering Iran only has 2 of 1100km ranged radars and only one in the future 3000km ranged one , a single target for USN or Air Force to pretty much allow USN to strike its targets without a worry.

Lol , really ? thank you for telling me maneuvering warheads don't maneuver on predictable basis
2 missiles per target eliminates room for error , if one misses the other will hit , like I said maneuvering warhead is not a new technology that has just been invented , it has been around for how many decades?

At that point the third stage separates, and the Lightweight Exo-Atmospheric Projectile (LEAP) kinetic warhead (KW) begins to search for the target using pointing data from the launching ship. The Aerojet throttleable divert and attitude control system (TDACS) allows the kinetic warhead to maneuver in the final phase of the engagement. The KW's sensors identify the target, attempt to identify the most lethal part of the target and steers the KW to that point. If the KW intercepts the target, it provides 130 megajoules (96,000,000 ft·lbf, 31 kg TNT equivalent) of kinetic energy at the point of impact.[9]

RIM-161 Standard Missile 3 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

You're calling me a moron and yet you did not debunk a single one of my statements?

I said, lets assume the UAV's are all shot down before detecting the positions of the ships, this assumption is me doing you a favour because you're high if you think all the UAV's will be shot.
Now you're questioning me being sure about the statement I make about Iranian radar? You think everybody is like you to make stupid/baseless statements? Yes, Iran has a 3000KM OTH radar called sepehr.

You don't even realise how dumb your comments are.You keep coming up with hollywood scenarios of US being able to destroy everything and somehow Iran cannot prevent that. How dumb are you? How is their navy/airforce going to destroy seperh? from Where? From regional countries? From their carriers? Anything within 3000KM is within Iranian ranges to destroy. The Americans will not be able to mount a surprise attack to destroy anything in Iran. Certainly not from their airforce or navy.

Saying manoeuvring warheads have been around for a long time it does not mean they can be defeated easily, does it.
You made this moronic statement:

"Lol , really ? thank you for telling me manoeuvring warheads don't manoeuvre on predictable basis"

And then you did not follow it up with anything of substance.
Yes, I am telling you those warheads are following an unpredictable evasive manoeuvres and thus firing more than one anti ballistic missile will not exponentially increase interception. The current anti BM's are useful against warheads from BM's which are not manoeuvring. Now add manoveuring warheads to MIRV then you have a great force multiplier.

Furthermore, I stated, even assuming they manage to intercept most of the missile Iran fires, all it takes is 1 of them to take out of action even a carrier.

 

[Azeri440]

You're calling me a moron and yet you did not debunk a single one of my statements?

I said, lets assume the UAV's are all shot down before detecting the positions of the ships, this assumption is me doing you a favour because you're high if you think all the UAV's will be shot.
Now you're questioning me being sure about the statement I make about Iranian radar? You think everybody is like you to make stupid/baseless statements? Yes, Iran has a 3000KM OTH radar called sepehr.

You don't even realise how dumb your comments are.You keep coming up with hollywood scenarios of US being able to destroy everything and somehow Iran cannot prevent that. How dumb are you? How is their navy/airforce going to destroy seperh? from Where? From regional countries? From their carriers? Anything within 3000KM is within Iranian ranges to destroy. The Americans will not be able to mount a surprise attack to destroy anything in Iran. Certainly not from their airforce or navy.

Saying manoeuvring warheads have been around for a long time it does not mean they can be defeated easily, does it.
You made this moronic statement:

"Lol , really ? thank you for telling me manoeuvring warheads don't manoeuvre on predictable basis"

And then you did not follow it up with anything of substance.
Yes, I am telling you those warheads are following an unpredictable evasive manoeuvres and thus firing more than one anti ballistic missile will not exponentially increase interception. The current anti BM's are useful against warheads from BM's which are not manoeuvring. Now add manoveuring warheads to MIRV then you have a great force multiplier.

Furthermore, I stated, even assuming they manage to intercept most of the missile Iran fires, all it takes is 1 of them to take out of action even a carrier.

I am high for thinking all the UAV's will be shot down?

UAV is a slow moving target that can be easily taken out , and Iran doesn't have that many Long Range UAVs to even say that ,not to mention a carrier has more air power than Iranian Air Force and combined with destroyers and cruisers can easily take out UAVs even in big numbers

Iran has 2 1100km ranged OTH radars , intended mainly for air defence and as for Sepehr , you don't even have a clue what you are talking about ,

With a range of up to 3,000 kilometers in distance and up to 300 kilometers into space, Sepehr radar system will protect the country's airspace completely.

“The radar will be included in the integrated air defense network in future after it is fully deployed, and then we will be able to even feel the enemies' breathing in their bases,” Commander of Khatam ol-Anbia Air Defense Base Brigadier General Farzad Esmayeeli told the national Fars news agency (FNA) on Sunday.

Sealing off skies: Iran finalizes 360 degree early warning air defense radar — RT News

FIRST , the radar is not even fully deployed
SECOND , the radar is integrated in AIR DEFENSE NETWORK ,

Americans can easily mount a surprise attack , with Submarines that carry 100+ tomahawks , with even your dense Anti-ship network , you won't be able to do anything against
The Air Force also has cruise missiles with ranges over 1000kms , just because you have a radar with a range of 3000kms , your capabilities to do anything against them is limited

when I say maneuvering warheads are nothing new , I mean the counter systems have been in development for a long time
SM-3 can take out a maneuvering warhead , and with 2 SM-2/3 dedicated the room for error is gone

At that point the third stage separates, and the Lightweight Exo-Atmospheric Projectile (LEAP) kinetic warhead(KW) begins to search for the target using pointing data from the launching ship. The Aerojet throttleable divert and attitude control system (TDACS) allows the kinetic warhead to maneuver in the final phase of the engagement. The KW's sensors identify the target, attempt to identify the most lethal part of the target and steers the KW to that point. If the KW intercepts the target, it provides 130 megajoules (96,000,000 ft·lbf, 31 kg TNT equivalent) of kinetic energy at the point of impact.[9]

RIM-161 Standard Missile 3 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[The Last of us]

I am high for thinking all the UAV's will be shot down?

UAV is a slow moving target that can be easily taken out , and Iran doesn't have that many Long Range UAVs to even say that ,not to mention a carrier has more air power than Iranian Air Force and combined with destroyers and cruisers can easily take out UAVs even in big numbers

Iran has 2 1100km ranged OTH radars , intended mainly for air defence and as for Sepehr , you don't even have a clue what you are talking about ,

With a range of up to 3,000 kilometers in distance and up to 300 kilometers into space, Sepehr radar system will protect the country's airspace completely.

“The radar will be included in the integrated air defense network in future after it is fully deployed, and then we will be able to even feel the enemies' breathing in their bases,” Commander of Khatam ol-Anbia Air Defense Base Brigadier General Farzad Esmayeeli told the national Fars news agency (FNA) on Sunday.

Sealing off skies: Iran finalizes 360 degree early warning air defense radar — RT News

FIRST , the radar is not even fully deployed
SECOND , the radar is integrated in AIR DEFENSE NETWORK ,

Americans can easily mount a surprise attack , with Submarines that carry 100+ tomahawks , with even your dense Anti-ship network , you won't be able to do anything against
The Air Force also has cruise missiles with ranges over 1000kms , just because you have a radar with a range of 3000kms , your capabilities to do anything against them is limited

when I say maneuvering warheads are nothing new , I mean the counter systems have been in development for a long time
SM-3 can take out a maneuvering warhead , and with 2 SM-2/3 dedicated the room for error is gone

At that point the third stage separates, and the Lightweight Exo-Atmospheric Projectile (LEAP) kinetic warhead(KW) begins to search for the target using pointing data from the launching ship. The Aerojet throttleable divert and attitude control system (TDACS) allows the kinetic warhead to maneuver in the final phase of the engagement. The KW's sensors identify the target, attempt to identify the most lethal part of the target and steers the KW to that point. If the KW intercepts the target, it provides 130 megajoules (96,000,000 ft·lbf, 31 kg TNT equivalent) of kinetic energy at the point of impact.[9]

RIM-161 Standard Missile 3 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Are that stupid? Do you not understand that an OTH radar can be used for both sea and air targets? At least try to educate yourself a little. Seperh radar can be used for sea target detection but its main purpose is for air defence against planes, ballistic missiles etc. Their 100's of cruise missile will have to penetrate deep within Iran and pass the thousands of AA guns. The cruise misiles will be detected and monitored long before they enter Iranian airspace. Thus more nonesense from you.

SM-3 cannot destroy warheads doing evasive manoeuvring, stop commenting gibberish. The evasive manoeuvring of the warheads is completely random and the seeker will simply not be able determine where to intercept it. Futhermore, there is also MIRV aspect and decoys to consider here as well. You keep dodging my other point that all it takes it one missile to get through and take the carrier out of action.

In your hollywood scenario you consider this, their submarines can fire missiles and get through Iranian defences but for some reason Iranian BM's will all be shot down. You really need to stop watching Hollywood film kid. They're obviously making you even dumber.

 

[Azeri440]

Are that stupid? Do you not understand that an OTH radar can be used for both sea and air targets? At least to educate yourself a little. Seperh radar can be used for sea target detection but its main purpose is for air defence against planes, ballistic missiles etc. Their 100's of cruise missile will have to penetrate deep within Iran and pass the thousands of AA guns gun. The cruise will be detected and monitor long before they enter Iranian airspace. Thus more nonesense from you.

SM-3 cannot destroy warheads doing evasive manoeuvring, stop commenting gibberish. The evasive manoeuvring of the warheads is completely random and the seeker will simply not be able determ point to intercept it. Futhermore, there is also MIRV aspect and decoys to consider here as well. You keep didgin my other poit that all it takes it one missile to get through and take the carrier out of action.

In your hollywood scenario you consider this, their submarines can fire missiles and get through Iranian defences but for some reason Iranian BM's will all be shot down. You really need to stop watching Hollywood film kid. They're obviously making you even dumber.

LOL oh my god , do you understand what network means? I didn't say OTH radar can't be used for Sea targets
I said what the article suggested , the radar is incorporated into Air Defence network , unless you can find me a source that also suggests its incorporated into Naval Defence network then STFU

holywood scenario ? that's a pretty real scenario
why do you think US converted some of the subs into Tomahawk packed vessels , those subs will be the first to strike in case of war , hard to detect and hard to take out

SM-3 can take out a maneuvering warhead , and like I said 2 per target eliminates room for error.

If Iran had the proper infrastructure in place or the numbers in place , I would agree that Iran can at least put 1 through the defense of Battle Group , but it doesn't

and considering I have proved all my points with sources and made your points illegitimate , its time to bring the argument to an end.

 

[The Last of us]

LOL oh my god , do you understand what network means? I didn't say OTH radar can't be used for Sea targets
I said what the article suggested , the radar is incorporated into Air Defence network , unless you can find me a source that also suggests its incorporated into Naval Defence network then STFU

holywood scenario ? that's a pretty real scenario
why do you think US converted some of the subs into Tomahawk packed vessels , those subs will be the first to strike in case of war , hard to detect and hard to take out

SM-3 can take out a maneuvering warhead , and like I said 2 per target eliminates room for error.

If Iran had the proper infrastructure in place or the numbers in place , I would agree that Iran can at least put 1 through the defense of Battle Group , but it doesn't

and considering I have proved all my points with sources and made your points illegitimate , its time to bring the argument to an end.

It seems you're running out of crap to spout out now. Who says they cannot use it for both purposes at the same time? Just because they said it is part of the airdefence network it says nothing about whether it is used for sea targets as well. You're now just running on an empty tank.

Saying "yes it can" like a child over and over again will not make the statement true. You obviously don't even have basic common sense to understand it could not possibly be used against projectiles undergoing unpredictable/random manoeuvrings. Why is this difficult to understand for you? Are you that stupid or playing stupid? Adding to the manoeuvrings, is the MIRV (force multiplier) + decoys which make destroying all the BM's pure fantasy with current technology.

I showed you're just some clueless hollywood fanboy who thinks none of Iranian ballistic missiles can hit the ships when the technology to intercept such ballistic missile warheads does not even exist yet, on the other hand somehow Iran cannot stop just a few hundred cruise missiles when it can easily detect the cruise missiles using the same OTH radars (and much more) and simply shoot them using AAA systems.

Your deluded and moronic comments have done nothing but waste space here. Now go watch some steven seagal films.

 

[scythian500]

LOL oh my god , do you understand what network means? I didn't say OTH radar can't be used for Sea targets
I said what the article suggested , the radar is incorporated into Air Defence network , unless you can find me a source that also suggests its incorporated into Naval Defence network then STFU

holywood scenario ? that's a pretty real scenario
why do you think US converted some of the subs into Tomahawk packed vessels , those subs will be the first to strike in case of war , hard to detect and hard to take out

SM-3 can take out a maneuvering warhead , and like I said 2 per target eliminates room for error.

If Iran had the proper infrastructure in place or the numbers in place , I would agree that Iran can at least put 1 through the defense of Battle Group , but it doesn't

and considering I have proved all my points with sources and made your points illegitimate , its time to bring the argument to an end.

My Azeri Kardash... I want to share something with you...

Hollywood, PR divisions of all US forces spend huge amounts to keep one subject alive. They keep making movies with US army as the superior of everything, even aliens. They produce mental food to deceive the whole world. This is not something hidden in fact. If you read US authorities on hollywood and its importance, you clearly see how HW is important for them to portray an invincible image of US and whatever is from US.

I personally met a bunch of US soldiers in Dubai once, coming back home from Afgh. We got closer after days in one hotel. Through their talk I understood that we never hear anything from their failures because it is strictly monitored.

The media is in US hands, and they will use it to do a job that trillions of new weaponry can 't do... I'm not saying they are not capable. US army certainly is the top classic army on planet, but this does not make them defeat-proof and other opponents as easy to win countries.

now, in Iran, when commanders open their mouth, they must be so careful not to promise something and when the time comes, their promises lose reality and weight. Actually, the job of a general in Iranian army is very hard when it comes to PR. They have to find a way to balance between, giving nearly true information to public with a solid infra to back it up and leaving enemy in darkness and suspicion all the time.

Now, if you ask an Iranian general if Iran can survive US attacks and if Iran can defend and offend effective enough to make them regret their decision, he would respond like this:

"We don't under estimate US capabilities as they don't under estimate us. They definitely can penetrate through Iranian air, sea defenses but very unlikely to do the same with ground defenses. US will hit first. The degree of possible losses could be severe but not effective enough to prevent Iran from retaliation. Iran will try to use modern asymmetric methods (that Iran is the master of these technics in whole world by the way), not putting Iran in a par-to-par classic confrontation. Trying to get as prisoners as they can, while killing a lot and in a very short time. Then if after all these, US still wants to continue then Iran will use its strategic options. These options are in two categories. First, those who are known, like Hizbullah firing thousands of serious missiles to Israel. Waking up sleeping cells all around the world and hit US and ISraeli interests and citizens. Making participating states insecure, and other possible actions. Second, there are certainly hibernated strategic capabilities in form of secret weapons, both hardware and software (cyber).

Certainly, a good army like Iran will never ever let its main strategic defensive and offensive options to be known easily. There are always new options for new situations. It is not only Iran who hold such options.

So, to my eyes, a possible scenario is like this:

Iran detects attack formations through radars, spies and other means... Iran get ready for battle grade preparation, though don't need to move soldiers from east to west or vice versa. Iran is the only country in world that has WAR THREAT grade formations already in place. They only change it randomly so USA can not use these formations for war plans. USA most likely wants to attack using tomahawks, f-22s and B-2s to bomb using bunker busters. Iran will detect them and will counter and shut down some of them but not all or Iran simply blind US satellites or just deactivate GPS and this scenario goes off. Which option happens is totally unpredeicatable.

Iran will use a whole bunch of less sophisticated BMs to decieve or tire up defense systems and then fires quickly her main warheads riding its most sophisticated BMs. Targets are all US and its allies' bases + Israeli military and commerically strategic targets.

If the war goes behind this point, then Iran will target all US and her allies' naval forces both in Persian Gulf, Oman Sea, Arab Sea and in their bases in PGCC countries. The way Iran hit its naval targets have two sides too. The first side is hundreds of mobile Cruise Anti-ship launchers across or deep into Iranian lands + hundreds of anti-ship cruises on hundreds of boats. These massive numbers of cruise missiles can not be prevented by no force, even if it is American carrier group. Now, if enemy's naval forces are close enough to IRanian shores, then there will be a slaughter, but if they are far away, then Iran will use its submarine and midget submarine forces equipped with hundreds of torpedo. The first and only winning option in this stage is Hoot supercavitation Torpedos. These are winner torpedo. If targets in range no ship or sub can evade them. Anti-ship ballistic missiles are another advantage that is nearly ZERO possible to defend against them, specially if fired in big numbers.

Another side will come up in form of absolute surprises for very long range targets. There are many secret long range weapons declared their existence very briefly and with no info about them.

So if US naval forces are in range, there is no chance US leave the area safe and sound. Now if US used it subs and ships to strike from a long distance, using tomahawks and air force, then Iran will still hit closer targets in PGCC because almost all of them are fixed targets, but will focus on a tight defensive formation against these cruises or air strikes. 5 years ago, Iran had little to offer against US airforce or cruise missiles, but now considering the sheer number of radar points and a lot of sophisticated radars + ever-growing number and quality of Iranian made air defense systems plus possible S-300s can be very lethal to any force. Still despite all these new weapons, US forces will definitely penetrate but not as they like it and not as effective as it was planned in first place.

Iran is one of the strongest nations on earth when it comes to defending the LAND... There are over a million professionals + at least couple of millions of trained Basijis + another tens of millions of volunteers who almost all already were trained as military service is compulsory in IRan. So whatever USA does in Iran, they can not take over the country. All they can do is to exhaust both their forces and ours and destory as much as both sides can.

Another promise that has messages for wise men is when a high rank commander says in a unofficial ceremony that Iran can get at least 1000 prisoner from Americans in first week. This is a winning stake for those who know US politics.

There are offensive weapons and defensive ones to counter them. It is very naive to think, when US were busy making new weapons or EW systems, Iran sat on its balls hoping that everything just go well!! Iranian commanders and scientists are working 24/7 for decades now to have the upper hand when the day comes.

Btw, still in 2015, there is no effective system to effectively counter MIRV or Smart warheads in size of a small person
that fall in a +10 mach in a nearly 90 Degree angle and maneuvers randomly. Not USA and not Aliens have this tech yet...

I invite you to take a minute and read these links:

However, a review of the actual state of missile defense technologies reveals that this new vision put forth by the report is nothing more than a fiction and that the policy strategy that follows from these technical myths could well lead to a foreign policy disaster.

"With regard to current missile defense technologies, there are no new material facts to support any of the claims in the report that suggest that the United States is now in a position to defend itself from limited ICBM attacks or that any of the fundamental unsolved problems associated with high-altitude ballistic missile defenses have been solved. In fact, as this article will show, the most recent ballistic missile defense flight-test data released by the Department of Defense and the most recent failed test of the ground-based missile defense system in January show quite the opposite."

A Flawed and Dangerous U.S. Missile Defense Plan | Arms Control Association

The United States’ missile defense system will never work — which is why we’re spending more money on it | ExtremeTech

I don't expect you and other fellow members change their long time injected perception of US almighty, but things are not as easy as counting the numbers of each parties' missiles or ships and then figure out that US is mighty and no other nation can stand a chance against them...

believe me bro... If USA were to conclude that they can hit Iran and hit it effective enough, they would have not hesitated a day... This is Iran, now imagine what are possibilities if US wants to act reckless, believing in their own hollywood propaganda and go to attack Russia or China...!

BTWW: Ghadir and Sepehr radars being connected to Iranian Air Defence Network means its data is also shared with the consolidated network that bring together all radars data into one control and management system. All radars, from small border control ones up to the Sepehr or coastal sea control radars are all connected to this network. It does not mean, Sepehr is only made for Air Force. By looking into the tech behind this OTH radars, it is very probable that these can also detect ships thousands of kms away as they the electronic electromagnetic pulses will come to earth surface after being reflected by ionosphere layer. This gives it access to any target from 300 km into the sky down to the ground level.

 

[rmi5]

What's the point of continuing your discussion? You are talking like Iran and US are going to start a war tomorrow, and you guys are marshal Rommel, and general Patton, and you are 5-star generals who know everything about capabilities of Iran and US, and war strategies.

 

[scythian500]

What's the point of continuing your discussion? You are talking like Iran and US are going to start a war tomorrow, and you guys are marshal Rommel, and general Patton, and you are 5-star generals who know everything about capabilities of Iran and US, and war strategies.

are n't we?

are n't we?

but seriously... do u think general qasem soleimani and pual brener come to forums to talk military and wars? it is a public low-iq forum for those who think can share their personal perceptions of different issues...

don't you know that we all know everything and find ourselves fit to give suggestions about everything? Is n't the nature of unemployed weboholics?

it is very weird though that an Azeri comes here becomes the attorney chief representative of US army...

 

[Oldman1]

Succeed in what exactly? I know there were some allegations that Houties were within Iran's sphere of influence but it is a wrong perception. There was a very good chance that they would eventually become an ally of Iran because there are only so many different sides that you can choose from. In that area you are either in the GCC (and US) camp, or you are independent or you are in Iran's camp. They had already denounced being part of GCC camp. It is not easy for such a small country to be independent especially with SA threatening its existence, so there was a good chance that they would join Iran camp. It was a natural move not something that Iran had to invest on to happen.

The fact is that now SA is engaged in a war of attrition that god knows when will end. Meaning it has less resources and time to assign to helping the terrorists in Syria and Iraq which is only a good thing for Iran without needing to spend any resources. So in that sense, Iran is actually succeeding. Any other shows like Iran's navy presence in Gulf of Aden is to keep SA attention to Yemen reminding her that as soon as she turn her head, Iran will take its place in Yemen.

No they are succeeding because Iran is sending weapons and money in Yemen as well as supporting Assad with losses in both areas of conflict. Not to mention in Iraq as well.

On Yemen, Arabs are killing Arabs ...

Arabs are killing Arabs yet why is Iran intervening in Iraq and Yemen as well as in Syria? Be more specific on that reason. Is something provoking you to intervene because Arabs killing Arabs?

 

[scythian500]

No they are succeeding because Iran is sending weapons and money in Yemen as well as supporting Assad with losses in both areas of conflict. Not to mention in Iraq as well.



Arabs are killing Arabs yet why is Iran intervening in Iraq and Yemen as well as in Syria? Be more specific on that reason. Is something provoking you to intervene because Arabs killing Arabs?

The only thing that matters in Iran is one's religion. Not to kill or hurt anyone who is not a Muslim...no... it only means we are behind those who are Muslims first and Shia Muslims second... Any Muslim country that follows a brave, independent, proud and self-confident Muslim Agenda and do not sacrifice Muslims interests under the feet of their Western masters, will be Iran's ally and Iran feels responsible to defend them against their enemies....

Race has no meaning in Iranian politics opposite to what is the most important thing in some of stone-age Arab countries... Yes, RACE

Prophet Muhammad came to Arabia asking people to stop discriminating others for their color, nationality, language, wealth.... There is no single measure to discriminate people and people are only are better to GOD when having more of the so called "TAGHVA" in their actions.... in Arabic that means "PIETY"

So, if a nation claims to be Muslim then they can not base their country or policies based on RACE like that of Arabs or Israelis... If they are true Muslims, they can not let Non-Muslims to control their fate as

based on Islamic teachings, Non-Muslims will not get happy with Muslims until the judgement day... Aso, a true Muslim nation stands to the weaker side who is under Suppression...

Most of Iranian current foreign policy red lines comes from these simple Islamic facts. Iran can not recognize Israel for her own comfort (as most of enmity of the West toward Iran originates in Iran not recognizing Israel) as they occupied a land that is not their own, forced its native people out of their homes, killed millions of them, still kills and occupies more of the weaker nation which btw is a Muslim nation... Iran can not let Western satanic immorality (promoting gay, lesbians, whores, alcohol, etc) to come get spread in Iran just because the West will be happy with Iran... Iran can not allow Apartheid as it is a tragedy based on color of skin and race... So, because Iran is an Islamic Republic, she can not accept suppression, force, immorality, being under control of other powers... If you see Iran has problems with some Arab countries, this is exactly because of this behavior of them to submit to West for their own comfort... as you know, Iran beside its shia allies, support Sunni Palestinians, Alavi Syrians, Christian Venezuelan, etc



Even though Iran is against Arab submission to West, still Iran calls them to unite against enemies of Islam...not to attack them of course..but to defend ourselves if they attacked... Even though Iran has such deep differences with Arabs, she never attacked Arabs for their different sector of Islam... The problem fired up again when Arabs started to misuse illiterate Arabs and provoke them against any sector of Islam that is not a Wahhabi Takfiri... Here comes the major problem that can not be ignored... Iran despite her desire, has no choice but to fight and eliminate the Takfiri mindset and its adherers as they will not stop and will try to behead every other Non-Wahhabi Muslim or Christian (except jews that they seem to like them!!) who is not a Takfiri...

Somehow I don't believe this Takfiri Wahhabis to be genuine in what they are doing... why? because no human can be so stupid and narrow minded to accept this BS and believe she/he must kill every person on this planet if is not a Takfiri.... God damn it... The prophet Muhammad himself was living in a polarism environment with Jews living in their region...Christians too... Zoroastrians too...but he never asked Muslims to kill every person who is not a Muslim!!

So, I believe they are pursuing a certain agenda and are more of a political and cold war soldiers while totally being aware... I agree that some takfiris are so stupid that they get brain washed easily but their master minds are only agents with certain plans of actions....