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Okay,that is actually pretty impressive.
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Yeah. Broadly, the more basic Iranian drones have been hard to counteract. I wonder what Iran has up its sleeve when she herself is under drone attack? Which goes back to why doesn't the opponent do the same thing (which we know the partial answer to that, BTW)...on and on and on...Okay,that is actually pretty impressive.
I'm very interested in Iran's counter-drone strategy...
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Geran-2/Shahed-136 strikes reported in Ukraine
According to Rybar:
Last night, the RF Armed Forces attacked the facilities of the Ukrainian army with a multitude of kamikaze UAVs. Some of them shot down air defense systems, but the devices reached their target in Dnepropetrovsk, the Sinelnikovsky district and the outskirts of Zaporozhye. In Kharkiv, an energy infrastructure facility was hit, as well as, presumably, facilities near the Turboatom plant
According to Rybar:
Last night, the RF Armed Forces attacked the facilities of the Ukrainian army with a multitude of kamikaze UAVs. Some of them shot down air defense systems, but the devices reached their target in Dnepropetrovsk, the Sinelnikovsky district and the outskirts of Zaporozhye. In Kharkiv, an energy infrastructure facility was hit, as well as, presumably, facilities near the Turboatom plant
40% of Ukraine is left without power after the latest Russian missile barrage. Russia launched over 120 missiles at Ukraine.
This is after Ben Wallace, the defense minister of the UK, recently stated that Russia was incapable of conducting another massive missile attack because their stockpiles were too depleted.
I'm not sure why the UK defense ministry keeps making these false claims. According to them Russia should have ran out of missiles 6 months ago. At this point this is just embaressing.
So according to reports in western media, Putin has rejected Zelensky's recent peace plan. Not many people know this but Zelensky's "peace plan" includes Putin and his generals to facing war crimes at the Hague and for Russia to pay reparations. Only after that Russia will be allowed to the negotiating table.
This is what happens when a former comedian / male stripper becomes the president of a nation. He has no political experience and it seems like he's completely delusional.
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This is after Ben Wallace, the defense minister of the UK, recently stated that Russia was incapable of conducting another massive missile attack because their stockpiles were too depleted.
I'm not sure why the UK defense ministry keeps making these false claims. According to them Russia should have ran out of missiles 6 months ago. At this point this is just embaressing.
So according to reports in western media, Putin has rejected Zelensky's recent peace plan. Not many people know this but Zelensky's "peace plan" includes Putin and his generals to facing war crimes at the Hague and for Russia to pay reparations. Only after that Russia will be allowed to the negotiating table.
This is what happens when a former comedian / male stripper becomes the president of a nation. He has no political experience and it seems like he's completely delusional.
Belarus summons Ukraine envoy after rogue missile shot down
All the updates from December 29: Belarus says it shot down a S-300 missile in a village near the Ukrainian border.
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Number was revised to 69 missiles apparently.40% of Ukraine is left without power after the latest Russian missile barrage. Russia launched over 120 missiles at Ukraine.
This is after Ben Wallace, the defense minister of the UK, recently stated that Russia was incapable of conducting another massive missile attack because their stockpiles were too depleted.
I'm not sure why the UK defense ministry keeps making these false claims. According to them Russia should have ran out of missiles 6 months ago. At this point this is just embaressing.
So according to reports in western media, Putin has rejected Zelensky's recent peace plan. Not many people know this but Zelensky's "peace plan" includes Putin and his generals to facing war crimes at the Hague and for Russia to pay reparations. Only after that Russia will be allowed to the negotiating table.
This is what happens when a former comedian / male stripper becomes the president of a nation. He has no political experience and it seems like he's completely delusional.
Belarus summons Ukraine envoy after rogue missile shot down
All the updates from December 29: Belarus says it shot down a S-300 missile in a village near the Ukrainian border.
They are still refraining from attacking all sites. I guess they want Ukraine on low energy but not completely out.
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hmm...Shahed 136s are still damaging Ukraine....at this stage...so that must be hurting Ukraine bad...and its AD systems are also depleted...obviously they're depleted when Ukrainian troops on the frontline dont have enough artillery....any army with artillery shells issues is obviously in bad shape.
But on this subject of UK MOD giving fake news on Russia running out of missiles, its psyops warfare- make it look like Russia is losing the war, but meanwhile US was in Afghanistan for over20 years before anyone really said US has lost the war, but US lost the war the day it moved in mass troops to occupy the country.
Look! all these military theatric events happening are all side shows, and there have been many, they are all irrelevant lies, and distractions from the war's objectives, purposes and goals- here are a bunch of them:
-Moskva sinking - yea so what? Ukrainian soldiers bodies are in ditches in Bakhmut and on the frontline- thats where the war will be settled-dont forget Russian subs..there are many and they are deadly- Navy doesnt win the war
-Ghost of Kyiv- and irrelevant superhero comic idiot who had little effect on the war..actually a lame duck soldiers beacuse Ukraine's airforce just cant fly- Russia doesnt allow Ukranian airforce fly, or fly much.
-Russia lost Kyiv- maybe a strategic mistake by Russia, but the war is still on, Kyiv can be reattacked, and Ukrainian military is in its worst shape today, because denazification is good "osteoporosis" for bone-stubborn ,traitorous Ukraine.
-Russia running out of ammunition and missiles
-Russia buying shells from North Korea (but US didnt buy shells for Ukraine from Pakistan?)
-Russia lost 8500 vehicles in this war(according to oryx, but more T90s are on their way to the frontlines, Russia MUST KNOW MAGIC right? lmao)
-Russia is out of Kalibers- but why they keep firing them weekly?
-NATO is not involved ine war- But 1200 Polish active army soldiers + other NATO state mercenaries have fought and died in Ukraine so far?
-Russia threatened to use nukes- No Russia didnt, and NATO has nukes too, stop whining.
- Shahed 136 is a simple lawnmower crude drone- Then how come it alone is responsible for disabling so much of Ukraine's day to day functionality like trains, electricity, transportation etc???? AND STILL NO SOLUTION AS OF NOW?
NATO has a big disadvantage now, because its not in war mode, but Russia its main adversary is- its industries are all fired up, troops rotating, learning, getting actual war experience, US and NATO are worried about troop losses...they will never be able to attack and disable Russia without their soldiers dying in large numbers- same problem NATO faces with Iran- no NATO or US attack will occur without bases of US in the middle east being flattened- Nasrallah was fukn right when he said "the days of hit and run are over"..NATO cant "hit" any country now without lethal clapback.
Oryx is very problematic. Some military enthusiasts have even called him out recently. Honestly he's not impartial, he's biased. He constantly promotes the Turkish TB-2 and refuses to acknowledge any losses, even though 20 were lost in Libya and its been well documented. Some say he's sponsored by or has links to the Turkish defense industry.
I don't know but when it comes to counting the number of tanks / armored vehicles destroyed, it's also a problematic proposition. For one thing, if you actually click on the specific pictures he posts, many of them, not a few, many are unrecognizable. It's impossible to tell what they even are to be honest.
On the other hand, both sides use Soviet equipment and both sides are capturing equipment from each other. So for example, if Ukraine captures a T-72, uses it against Russia, it gets destroyed, does it then count as a Russian loss or Ukrainian loss ? Will the Ukrainian after losing it take a picture, send it in and admit that it was theirs ? What if they put a Z on it and take a picture ? You think that's not happening with this western propaganda war raging ?
Perception is everything and when it comes to this conflict, many Americans are disparaging Russia for losing equipment and not winning the war in weeks or months. The reason they judge Russia to this standard is because most people don't realize that the US hasn't been in a high intensity against industrialized powers since WW2. Just to give you an idea, during WW2 the US lost more than 100,000 planes. After that there was the Korean war but China was not industrialized then, although the Soviet Union was providing aid.
Anyways, comparing this conflict to something like Afghanistan is quite ridiculous. Many US military pundits, including retired military officers giving interview on mainstream media, point to the fact that NATO sustained less casualties in 20 years than Russia did in this war in 1 year. But comparing the Taliban in Afghanistan to a Ukraine armed to the teeth by NATO is honestly silly.
It's a high intensity conflict compared to a low intensity, drawn out insurgency. Not to mention they're completely disregarding the losses incured by the Afghan National Army, which the US trained and funded. The Afghans suffered horrendous casualties. Estimates range anywhere from 50,000 to 100,000 or several hundreds of thousands. But of course American military "experts" talking about Ukraine would much rather sweep it under the rug.
I don't know but when it comes to counting the number of tanks / armored vehicles destroyed, it's also a problematic proposition. For one thing, if you actually click on the specific pictures he posts, many of them, not a few, many are unrecognizable. It's impossible to tell what they even are to be honest.
On the other hand, both sides use Soviet equipment and both sides are capturing equipment from each other. So for example, if Ukraine captures a T-72, uses it against Russia, it gets destroyed, does it then count as a Russian loss or Ukrainian loss ? Will the Ukrainian after losing it take a picture, send it in and admit that it was theirs ? What if they put a Z on it and take a picture ? You think that's not happening with this western propaganda war raging ?
Perception is everything and when it comes to this conflict, many Americans are disparaging Russia for losing equipment and not winning the war in weeks or months. The reason they judge Russia to this standard is because most people don't realize that the US hasn't been in a high intensity against industrialized powers since WW2. Just to give you an idea, during WW2 the US lost more than 100,000 planes. After that there was the Korean war but China was not industrialized then, although the Soviet Union was providing aid.
Anyways, comparing this conflict to something like Afghanistan is quite ridiculous. Many US military pundits, including retired military officers giving interview on mainstream media, point to the fact that NATO sustained less casualties in 20 years than Russia did in this war in 1 year. But comparing the Taliban in Afghanistan to a Ukraine armed to the teeth by NATO is honestly silly.
It's a high intensity conflict compared to a low intensity, drawn out insurgency. Not to mention they're completely disregarding the losses incured by the Afghan National Army, which the US trained and funded. The Afghans suffered horrendous casualties. Estimates range anywhere from 50,000 to 100,000 or several hundreds of thousands. But of course American military "experts" talking about Ukraine would much rather sweep it under the rug.
I honestly cannot believe anything the Ukrainians say. How can it go from 120 missiles down to 69 and apparently 54 out of 69 were shot down (nearly 80%) but 90% of Lviv was left without power and 40% of Kiev. Not to mention every major city in Ukraine acknowledged multiple strikes. How could that be possible with only 15 missiles ? I'm sorry I just don't buy it.
Ukraine also claims that they have sustained 10,000 KIA while Russia has 100,000 KIA, despite the fact that Russia has 6-10 times as much firepower. There is a media outlet in Estonia, which is anti Putin in nature, MediaZona. They collect verifiable data, like funeral/cemetery listings. They claim Russia has 18,000 KIA, a far cry from Ukraine's 100,000.
Ursula Von Der Lyon said in a speech that Ukraine had 100,000 KIA. Later she took the video down and revised it to the official 10,000. Very suspicious to say the least. Multiple sources now put Ukraine's KIA losses at 120-140,000.
The sad part is that the mainstream media narrative is so prevalent that many westerners actually believe that Ukraine has already won the war, that Ukrainian troops are highly trained and have the best weapons, whereas Russian troops are untrained with rusty, broken down gear and low morale.
They also believe that for every 1 dead Ukrainian, there are 8 or more dead Russian. The sad truth is that most Ukrainian troops receive a few days or a few weeks of training and are then immediately shipped to the front. Only a fraction of western gear makes it to the front, Ukrainian troops are still using WW1 era Maxim machine guns.
The worst part about this war is that it was completely unnecessary. If Ukraine won't be able to take back Crimea, then what is the point ? Why didn't they just agree to the Minsk accords ? They would have been able to keep more territory without going through this war. Unfortunately Zelensky is merely an actor / front man who has no political experience.
He's dragging this war out as long as possible because that is what the defense contractors want and that is what the Pentagon wants because they want to weaken Russia as much as possible. They don't care about Ukraine or its people. After this is all said and done, they'll dump this war and sweep everything under the rug just like they did to Afghanistan.
Ukraine also claims that they have sustained 10,000 KIA while Russia has 100,000 KIA, despite the fact that Russia has 6-10 times as much firepower. There is a media outlet in Estonia, which is anti Putin in nature, MediaZona. They collect verifiable data, like funeral/cemetery listings. They claim Russia has 18,000 KIA, a far cry from Ukraine's 100,000.
Ursula Von Der Lyon said in a speech that Ukraine had 100,000 KIA. Later she took the video down and revised it to the official 10,000. Very suspicious to say the least. Multiple sources now put Ukraine's KIA losses at 120-140,000.
The sad part is that the mainstream media narrative is so prevalent that many westerners actually believe that Ukraine has already won the war, that Ukrainian troops are highly trained and have the best weapons, whereas Russian troops are untrained with rusty, broken down gear and low morale.
They also believe that for every 1 dead Ukrainian, there are 8 or more dead Russian. The sad truth is that most Ukrainian troops receive a few days or a few weeks of training and are then immediately shipped to the front. Only a fraction of western gear makes it to the front, Ukrainian troops are still using WW1 era Maxim machine guns.
The worst part about this war is that it was completely unnecessary. If Ukraine won't be able to take back Crimea, then what is the point ? Why didn't they just agree to the Minsk accords ? They would have been able to keep more territory without going through this war. Unfortunately Zelensky is merely an actor / front man who has no political experience.
He's dragging this war out as long as possible because that is what the defense contractors want and that is what the Pentagon wants because they want to weaken Russia as much as possible. They don't care about Ukraine or its people. After this is all said and done, they'll dump this war and sweep everything under the rug just like they did to Afghanistan.
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Daaaaamn Bro, this is a FIRE post, 1000000% accurate, i fully agree.
Ukranians have to accept the fracturing of their country as the right price in this situation for threatening Russia- reality is truth- Ukraine is fukd- and with worsening supplies and logistics for its army, its probably going to grind down to a halt......plot twiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiist!................before that happens, foolish Poland will send more canon fodder it will do one way lease with NATO for, to western Ukraine at least. East Ukraine surely will remain the buffer territory between Russia and NATO. Russia does not allow new NATO territory on its border without reaction, simple. Ukrainians have to die for their foolishness- they had all the time to negotiate before war- now Zelensky wants to try his time and tested scam of asking for negotiations to stall Russia militarily to give breathing space to its troops that are dead meat on the frontlines?
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