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[sha ah]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1598579766289829888

 

[sha ah]

 

[Hack-Hook]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1598579766289829888

i don't think it managed to destroy it

 

[Flotilla]

i don't think it managed to destroy it

At least it is out of service!.

 

[Hack-Hook]

At least it is out of service!.

well I doubt for long time , probably change the tire and its as good as new that lancet drone have a small warhead and is not that suitable for armored vehicle

 

[sha ah]

It's at the very least the howitzer was severely damaged. In Ukraine'scase that's much worse than the howitzer being completely destroyed, because now it has to travel 1000 KM to Poland for repair and then 1000 KM back to the front. Some claim that this is the reason why the Russians haven't resorted to destroying the bridges over the Dnieper. Why bother when all that back and force is putting an unbearable strain on the Ukrainian military.

As Napoleon once said "The amateurs discuss strategy, the professionals discuss logistics"

At least it is out of service!.

 

[Hack-Hook]

It's at the very least the howitzer was severely damaged. In Ukraine'scase that's much worse than the howitzer being completely destroyed, because now it has to travel 1000 KM to Poland for repair and then 1000 KM back to the front. Some claim that this is the reason why the Russians haven't resorted to destroying the bridges over the Dnieper. Why bother when all that back and force is putting an unbearable strain on the Ukrainian military.

As Napoleon once said "The amateurs discuss strategy, the professionals discuss logistics"

I actually seen a video of aftermath of such strike against another cannon and it was less than spectacular , it seemed Russia cheeped out on the drone and for shrapnel they cut some construction material , as the result the number of shrapnel and its penetration capability was less than desired , according to the guys who operated it they only need to change the tire

you see the shrapnel are usually small and hard metals pieces to maximize penetration , well the metals pieces in construction need to be flexible so they can tolerate stress in the year to come . that's why they are not ideal for the work as shrapnel . here Russia used the wrong type of iron and as result the destructive capacity of lancet get reduced somehow, its good against unarmored vehicles but against armored ones it has problem

 

[Sineva]

Great news,[if true]
Tho I have to say,it is actually pretty fvcking pathetic that the idiots running armenia wasted all of this time before finally deciding to purchase iranian drones.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1600666413974564864

Just imagine if they`d bought these 2 years ago.......,oh well.

 

[GrandBotBoi]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1593057208098779136

 

[Sineva]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1602943575725064193

 

[jauk]

Great news,[if true]
Tho I have to say,it is actually pretty fvcking pathetic that the idiots running armenia wasted all of this time before finally deciding to purchase iranian drones.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1600666413974564864

Just imagine if they`d bought these 2 years ago.......,oh well.

I wonder why they didn;t. Are they simply turncoats? As simple as that?

 

[Sineva]

I wonder why they didn;t. Are they simply turncoats? As simple as that?

Thats a bit of a difficult one,and in all honesty I really dont know why,I mean its not like they had many choices as far as suppliers of military drones are concerned,as there are only a literal handful of top tier level military drone producers on the planet,and if you take away the western/western aligned ones,then that only really leaves iran and china and basically thats about it.
I suspect one possibility could`ve been that the armenians were perhaps putting their hopes in the russian drone program.After all it did seem to be making some big strides,you had the first russian ucav,the orion,and there were the mock-ups of these larger drones and drone launched weapons unveiled at airshows that looked quite impressive,and on the face of it,it seemed that the russians were doing a pretty good job of playing catch-up...........
However,once the war in the ukraine kicked off it very quickly became readily apparent just how deficient the russians actually were in both the quantity and quality of the drones that were operated by,and available to its military.Not only that but the russians ultimately had to turn to iran to supply them with the drone tech that they lacked.
This may well have finally convinced the armenians that iranian drones would be every bit equal to whatever they would likely face off against being operated by the azerbaijanis in the event of another azerbaijan/armenia punch-up.

 

[Raghfarm007]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1602970868572950528

 

[Sineva]

IF this article IS true,and I have no reason to doubt it,then its a game changer.Its one more sign that the iran-russia relationship has changed utterly in the space of only mere months.
I think that its also a pretty clear sign that the iranian shaheds have proven to be a far more combat effective weapon than anyone dreamed of,after all why would the west be expending this insane amount of effort,ie the protests/riots/so called revolution,plus higher level diplomatic efforts if this were not the case?

Scoop: Amid Russian pressure, UN report skirts question on Iran drones

An upcoming report to the UN Security Council obtained by Axios about Iran's compliance with the 2015 nuclear deal does not accuse Iran of supplying Russia with drones for the war in Ukraine, despite pressure from the U.S. and its allies to do so.

Driving the news: Russia has pushed back hard, and so far successfully, on Western efforts to convince UN Secretary-General António Guterres to order an investigation into Iran's alleged supply of drones. Guterres makes no definitive statement on the issue in his forthcoming report.

• In the report, Guterres details several letters he received from representatives of the U.S., France, Germany, the U.K. and Ukraine arguing that Iran transferred drones to Russia “in a manner inconsistent with" UN Security Council Resolution 2231, which codified the Iran nuclear deal.
• Guterres also writes that he received letters from representatives of Iran and Russia rejecting the allegations and stressing that even if Iran did provide drones, that would not violate the resolution.

Between the lines: Under Resolution 2231, which passed in 2015 as part of the nuclear deal, countries are not allowed to transfer or receive from Iran ballistic missiles and drones that have a range of more than 300 kilometers and a payload of more than 500 kilograms until October 2023.

• The U.S. and European powers argue that the ban applies to the Iranian drones. The Russians and Iranians disagree.
• If the UN determines there was a violation, it would be a significant embarrassment for Russia, which is a permanent member of the Security Council and continues to deny it is using Iranian drones in the first place.
• Iran has admitted to supplying some drones to Russia but claims it was before the war began. The U.S. says it has definitive evidence of more recent transfers.

Behind the scenes: Guterres has been trapped in an argument between the two sides since October over whether to deploy UN experts to investigate the matter, according to letters obtained by Axios and the accounts of four diplomatic sources directly involved in the issue.

• The U.S. and European powers are demanding a UN investigation, but Russia argues Guterres has no authority to authorize one without a decision from the Security Council (which Russia would likely veto).
• But according to two diplomats from the Western Security Council member states, the UN's legal adviser and undersecretary of political affairs both determined Guterres does have a mandate to deploy experts, and there are precedents from similar cases in the Middle East.
• The Western diplomats say Russia has put immense pressure on Guterres and his advisers not to order an investigation, and it's even threatened to withdraw its cooperation on other issues relating to Ukraine, most notably the grain corridor.

State of play: Guterres has not ordered an investigation, and as a result, he reaches no conclusion on the drone issue in his report. “The Secretariat is examining the available information. Any findings will be reported to the Security Council, as appropriate, in due course," Guterres writes.

• A Western official told Axios that Guterres must order the investigation now and "not give in to pressure from Russia."

• A UN source told Axios that Guterres was in a very difficult position. “Every week the secretary-general received letters from each side with completely contradictory information. There was a lot of pressure from both sides, and the secretary-general had to walk a very fine line."
• The UN source said the U.S. had also asked Guterres several times in recent weeks to pass messages to Iran warning of the ramifications of supplying drones and missiles to Russia. The secretary-general held several phone calls on this issue with Iranian officials, most recently on Dec. 2 with Iranian Foreign Minister Hossein Amir-Abdollahian.

What they're saying: Stéphane Dujarric, spokesperson for the secretary-general, told Axios: “The UN secretariat continues to perform the tasks assigned to it by the Security Council. … In this regard, the secretariat is ready to analyze any information brought to its attention by member states that is relevant to the report."

• Western officials directly involved in the issue say the fact that the UN report didn’t make a determination about Iranian drone exports does not mean the UN won't find a violation of Resolution 2231.
• A State Department spokesperson said, “Iran, in violation of Resolution 2231, provided Russia with drones to wreak havoc and inflict destruction on Ukrainian civilians. Russia, in violation of Resolution 2231, procured them. There is no doubt that the transfer occurred without approval by the council, and thus in violation of Resolution 2231."
• A spokesperson for the Russian Embassy in Washington did not respond to a request for comment.

What to watch: A senior UN source said the secretary-general has the option of sending a team of experts to Ukraine in the future in order to investigate the claims regarding the use of Iranian drones.

 

[sha ah]

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Russians have also recently used Lancet drones in large numbers to target Ukrainian artillery including M777s

The Russians have also sent new T-72 Terminators to the front as well as the TOS-1 Flamethrowers which vaporized dozens of Ukrainian troops.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uho3AbyaO4E

All major attempts by Ukrainians to counter attack have ended in disaster. Zelensky last week demanded from the EU an additional $800 million Euros to continue the fight. EU said they could arrange maybe $150-200 range plus several hundred more generators and Ursula also said they could send several thousands of light bulbs for Ukrainians.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnKvP8BuBkU

Germany, Italy as well as France have all stated that they can no longer send weapons to Ukraine because of a lack of necessary stock. From now on they can only send humanitarian goods. It's basically the US, Lithuania, Poland.

Italians recently sent some mortars to Ukraine and Ukrainians have claimed that they are worst than Soviet WW2 stock.

Worse Than WWII Soviet Weapons! Ukrainian Soldiers ‘Lambast’ Another European System For Ineffective Performance

Several European countries have been shipping weaponry to Ukraine to support the country’s resistance against Russian invasion. While most of this weaponry has supported Kyiv’s war effort, some have garnered harsh criticism for their poor performance. In particular, the Mod63 120mm mortar...

eurasiantimes.com

I'm not even kidding. Also did I mention several dozens of Shahed-136 / Geran-2 have hit central Kiev as well as several army units in Zaporizhia 48 hours ago.

Russia hasn't even sent in its reserves. They're just about finishing off training. Allegedly Russia now has 50-80,000 troops in Belarus with the rest 200,000+ to the north of Kharkiv somewhere ?

The Russians were trying to pummel their enemies with artillery. Now they're just vaporizing anything that moves. Some of these weapons systems are really destructive. Iran should acquire or build something like the terminator and TOS flamethrower.