Iranian UAVs | News and Discussions

[Mr Iran Eye]

Regardless the F-5's design is outdated and it has very limited capabilities, which is why the US only purchased it for training purposes and it was only sold to developing countries. The aviation industry has progressed significantly since the time when the F-5 was first produced. Look a newly built F-5 with modern components is still good as a secondary platform, for training, but not as a frontline fighter and not as an air superiority platform.

Obsolete in your thoughtless head and I tell you that it is a universal platform that is there to stay. It will be even more useful to support the future heavy combat jet. Kowsar is constant improvement and it will always be like this.

Iranians are great combat tactics and kowsar is great for this

 

[sanel1412]

BT is such a clown, loser who pretends he has inside knowledge.

I asked him question,under one of his idiotic posts,I was not rude,just asked logic question,he blocked me in 10 minutes,dude is pure idiot and clown

 

[sha ah]

What future heavy combat jet ? Have you seen it ? What happened to Qaher ? Shafaq ?

Like I said, brand new F-5s built with modern components can be useful as a secondary platform, but not as a frontline fighter or to conduct air superiority missions.

Obsolete in your thoughtless head and I tell you that it is a universal platform that is there to stay. It will be even more useful to support the future heavy combat jet. Kowsar is constant improvement and it will always be like this.

Iranians are great combat tactics and kowsar is great for this

 

[sha ah]

 

[Hack-Hook]

Dude do your research India had SU-30 in close proximity.

that close proximity was 70-80+km

But it wasn't up against a Rafale or F-15, it was up against a Soviet era MIG-29. So you're saying that the maximum engagement range of a SU-35 is 42 KM ? LOL 42 KM is well within the NEZ, which is why the pilot chose to engage the MIG-29 from such a short distance, because at that point the MIG-29 would have zero chance of escaping.

just look at the video , I don't care when he fired the missile , look when he got a lock . it was 100km or around 42km ? decide for yourself

 

[Hack-Hook]

What future heavy combat jet ? Have you seen it ? What happened to Qaher ? Shafaq ?

shafaq,well dusting on the shelf, Qaher soon to join it , the design was only purpose built for one mission , fly low and fire some antiship cruise missiles , the day of uni-purpose aircraft ended in 90s , no air force have the fund to keep such aircrafts , they all go after multirole aircrafts .
and why we need heavy combat jet , does sweden have them , does frrance have them , does Pakistan have them , does UAE have them ,
its the age of light to medium multirole fighters , with strong datalink capabilities .
an f-15 can carry 10t , a Grippen or J-10c or f-18 or f-16 can carry up to 7 ton , the future of strike capability is SDBs , they are less than 150kg each , do you think that 3t hamper the capabilities of those medium to light fighter compared to their heavy brothers ?

 

[tsunset]

Mohajer-6

Azarakhsh-2 AA missile

"BS20" Guided bomb

 

[925boy]

Obsolete in your thoughtless head and I tell you that it is a universal platform that is there to stay. It will be even more useful to support the future heavy combat jet. Kowsar is constant improvement and it will always be like this.

Iranians are great combat tactics and kowsar is great for this

i respect your point, why? - despite so many people saying Iran's airforce is weak, well if its soooo weak, then why hasnt US or NATO attacked Iran yet? this is the same dumb logic they use in Ukraine war- they say Russia has no ammunition, no men, no fuel, and no air control over Ukraine- well why is NATO knowing all this and still cant attack directly in Ukraine then?

Once again, reality is truth- Iranian airforce is better than people accept, because it has deterred many airforces from invading, period.

 

[Mr Iran Eye]

i respect your point, why? - despite so many people saying Iran's airforce is weak, well if its soooo weak, then why hasnt US or NATO attacked Iran yet? this is the same dumb logic they use in Ukraine war- they say Russia has no ammunition, no men, no fuel, and no air control over Ukraine- well why is NATO knowing all this and still cant attack directly in Ukraine then?

Once again, reality is truth- Iranian airforce is better than people accept, because it has deterred many airforces from invading, period.

There are thoughtless people here on the forum and say anything.The Kowsar is there to stay with modification versions in the future.The F-4 with a new cell, new engine, new radar, new electronics and new weapons becomes very powerful. The F-14 modification are also very powerful

 

[Daylamite Warrior]

i respect your point, why? - despite so many people saying Iran's airforce is weak, well if its soooo weak, then why hasnt US or NATO attacked Iran yet? this is the same dumb logic they use in Ukraine war- they say Russia has no ammunition, no men, no fuel, and no air control over Ukraine- well why is NATO knowing all this and still cant attack directly in Ukraine then?

Once again, reality is truth- Iranian airforce is better than people accept, because it has deterred many airforces from invading, period.

Really? The reason why they havent attacked Iran isnt because of its airforce, but rather the assymetric response that they would get from drones, missiles and even our small boats. Ridiculous comment and analogy with Ukraine-Russia war, with all due respect. You really think US airforce are scared of a few mig-29s, tomcats and F5s?

 

[jauk]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1587399628651102209

Not clear why this misfit's tweets are being posted here?

 

[yugocrosrb95]

There are thoughtless people here on the forum and say anything.The Kowsar is there to stay with modification versions in the future.The F-4 with a new cell, new engine, new radar, new electronics and new weapons becomes very powerful. The F-14 modification are also very powerful

Iran can produce entirely new air frames for F-5 that is viable design unlike F-4 that is a flying brick which relies on thrust of its engines and can't glide even when empty clean.
It would be better to reverse engineer Mig-29 or F-14 with latter modified to not have variable sweep wings.

 

[sha ah]

The F-4s are 50 years old already. How long should Iran keep them ? Until they're 60 ? 70 ? You know what's funny ? Based to your logic, Iran never should have even purchased F-14s or F-5s or F-4s, they should have kept WW2 era vintage aircraft and kept upgrading them. Iran purchased the F-14 at a time when it was extremely expensive and had not been proven yet.

Many of the top brass in the airforce preferred the F-15, since it was cheaper and Iran already had all the tools and know how to maintain it, because of the F-4s they already had in service. The F-5s and F-4s were purchased during the Vietnam era, when American jets were under performing big time. Yes Iran can keep upgrading and modernizing jets like the F-14 or F-5 but Iran also needs new hardware and technology.

China currently has 24x SU-35s. If Iran ends up getting 24x SU-35s, the ones meant for Egypt before Ukraine sanctions were imposed, it would be an excellent deal for Iran. Russia has purchased 2400 drones from Iran. Reports say they're also purchasing 1000 missiles and they're also very likely to purchase Arash-2 and Meraj 521 drones. Iran is likely making atleast 50% profit on this hardware.

If Iran uses the profits from these transactions to purchase 24x SU-35s, they will basically cost Iran half price. It would be stupid to pass up on such an offer. Iran also needs air defense hardware, components for helicopters and much more. After the Ukraine war, Russia will be desperately in need of revenue and because of the recent foreign policy shift, Russia has never been more willing to sell Iran advanced military hardware. It only makes sense for Iran to use this situation to its advantage to beef up its military capabilities.

 

[sha ah]

So what are you trying to say ? That a SU-35 is only capable of engaging targets at a distance of 42 KM or less ? Today a SU-30 shot down another MIG-29. You realize that the R-77 missile has a maximum range of 200 KM right ? Regardless jets very seldom engage targets at their maximum range.

The SU-35 in the video you mentioned launched its missile at the Mig-29 from a distance where the probability of hitting the target was extremely high (NEZ). The further away the missile is launched, the more time the opponent has to react. Also locking onto a target gives away your position. The Russians have data link and AWACS support. They know precisely what Ukraine's MIG-29s are capable of, even with NATO upgrades. They know exactly what they doing. When all was said and done, what was the end result ?

watch the video i post and say at what distance that su-35 get a lock on Mig-29

 

[sha ah]

Russia is using the Shahed-136 / Geran-2 on a daily basis. Here are some excepts from the Telegram channel of Rybar:

November 2, 2022

Russian kamikaze drones "Geran-2" hit the warehouses of "Novaya Poshta" on the southern outskirts of Poltava, where military cargo was supposedly located. There was a major fire at the site.

the RF Armed Forces with Geran-2 loitering ammunition hit targets in Nikopol and Dnepropetrovsk, as well as a critical infrastructure facility in Krivoy Rog. Temporary power and water supply problems arose in several districts.

In Poltava, units of the Russian Armed Forces, using Geran-2 kamikaze drones, attacked important logistics facilities - warehouses of Novaya Pochta on the southern outskirts of the city.

Strike on a warehouse in Poltava

At night, several explosions thundered in Poltava: before that, the inhabitants of the region heard the characteristic sounds of the arrivals of Geran-2 kamikaze drones. Later, local resources posted a video from extinguishing a fire at one of the affected facilities.

Our team was able to determine that the Russian UAVs hit the Novaya Poshta warehouses on the southern outskirts of the city.

Coordinates: 49.557224, 34.525128

November 3, 2022

Late in the evening, Geran-2 kamikaze drones hit targets on the outskirts of Zaporozhye.