Iranian UAVs | News and Discussions

[eagle2007]

ALCON,

The camouflaged drone is the old MQM-107 target drone, first purchased back in the 1970s. The -107 is similar the Karrar in many ways (similar specs and engine). Iran may or may not build their own domestically though the existence of the Karrar would make that unlikely.

The orange "bombs" on the ground aren't bombs at all, they're simply pods. Target drones carry them and they often carry extra fuel or sensors (such as those designed to simulate a desired RCS).

The missiles are MANPADS (hard to tell exactly what type given the quality of the images). The pylons carrying these are new however, as the -107 normally only has a single pylon under each wing.

 

[raptor22]

ALCON,

The camouflaged drone is the old MQM-107 target drone, first purchased back in the 1970s. The -107 is similar the Karrar in many ways (similar specs and engine). Iran may or may not build their own domestically though the existence of the Karrar would make that unlikely.

The orange "bombs" on the ground aren't bombs at all, they're simply pods. Target drones carry them and they often carry extra fuel or sensors (such as those designed to simulate a desired RCS).

The missiles are MANPADS (hard to tell exactly what type given the quality of the images). The pylons carrying these are new however, as the -107 normally only has a single pylon under each wing.

scoring system? aren't those small ones FQM-117?

 

[Stryker1982]

They didn't show any land attack jet powered drones did they? besides karrar which we already know of.

 

[Navigator]

They didn't show any land attack jet powered drones did they? besides karrar which we already know of.

Because it's UAVs of Air Defence forces

 

[mohsen]

Ababil 1:

Sadeq:

Shahin (Mohajer4):

unknown UAV:

and if you need to suffocate yourself with more photos:
عکس/ رونمایی از آشیانه پهپادهای پدافندی ایران

 

[eagle2007]

raptor22,

Not sure I understand what you're asking, could you rephrase?

 

[WordsMatter]

Ababil 1:

Sadeq:

Shahin (Mohajer4):

unknown UAV:

and if you need to suffocate yourself with more photos:
عکس/ رونمایی از آشیانه پهپادهای پدافندی ایران

Interesting that he has decided to showcase these so called "state of the art" weapons now. Is his job in jeopardy because of the new MOD head? I mean these weapons are neither new nor much effective.

 

[Stryker1982]

Interesting that he has decided to showcase these so called "state of the art" weapons now. Is his job in jeopardy because of the new MOD head? I mean these weapons are neither new nor much effective.

The idea seems to be that these drones can asymmetrically engage fighters that fly nearby, Like if a jet is flying 20 km away, This drone can pop up from the rear or the side out of no where and quickly engaged with manpads. Theirs a good chance this can be used as some kind of asymmetrically strategy for inception and war of attrition. Can be easily hidden due to small logistical foot print lets say inside a city, or terrain masking. Obviously this cannot be used as a head on strategy. Additionally i think this would be best suited for point defence anti-cruise missile drones. The drones can be easily and quickly catipulted into the fray and engage sub sonic cruise missiles en route to where ever.

 

[Draco.IMF]

yeah, some of this drones looks very cheap
but I think those are disposable ones, so they have to be cheap, but effective

for example:

. suicide mission
. delivering bombs/missiles into a target and crash after mission
. drones for targeting/training task
...

 

[TheImmortal]

Must have been a slow news day for Iran to decide to unveil 1980 era drones.

 

[Arminkh]

Interesting that he has decided to showcase these so called "state of the art" weapons now. Is his job in jeopardy because of the new MOD head? I mean these weapons are neither new nor much effective.

I think you answered your questions. The drones shown are neither top of the line nor top secret.. That's why they are being shown. I guess they only tried to show off the quantity.

 

[PeeD]

Those drones are a good sign for operational capability. It means the various sites around the country are regularly tested by these mainly target drones. Random tests with such drones would ensure their 24/7 capability/reaction.

As for the MQM-107 with two MANPADs. Could be that they want a anti-slow drone (Predator etc.) capability on their own. But this should normally fall into IRGC-ASF/IRIAF responsibility.

 

[VEVAK]

Interesting that he has decided to showcase these so called "state of the art" weapons now. Is his job in jeopardy because of the new MOD head? I mean these weapons are neither new nor much effective.

Those are UAV's for Iran's Air Defense force! Meaning most of them are used for "Target Practice" that's why most of them are RED!

Iran is not going to use it's most advanced updated UAV's for target practice!

They also have a few recon UAV's & light UAV's armed with MANPAD's most likely be used against other UAV's allowing for a cheap way to intercept cheap UAV's!

An Iranian made MANPAD at most cots $10,000 USD & fuel and operating costs of UAV would likely be $100 USD at max! Giving you a cheap affordable platform to counter UAV's as appose to the fuel and operating costs of a fighter jet!

 

[VEVAK]

Those drones are a good sign for operational capability. It means the various sites around the country are regularly tested by these mainly target drones. Random tests with such drones would ensure their 24/7 capability/reaction.

As for the MQM-107 with two MANPADs. Could be that they want a anti-slow drone (Predator etc.) capability on their own. But this should normally fall into IRGC-ASF/IRIAF responsibility.

It would fall on the responsibility of the closest system! IRGC Air Defense units are mostly mobile systems but if they have a system that's close by then they'll be notified by Iran's Air Defense Force & then they will activate their system and engage if necessary!

As you said UAV's with MANPAD's operated by Iran's Air Defense units are mainly to country UAV's that are out of reach of AAA!
Scrambling a Fighter Jet or using expensive SAM's to intercept a RQ-7 or a Scan Eagle doesn't make much sense & you'll go bankrupt trying to chase or shoot down cheap UAV's when you can do it with far cheaper platform using cheaper Iranian made MANPADS!

Iran's Air Defense Force at the very least should be armed with Karrar-4(armed with one HQ-7 or Shahab Sagheb), Simorgh (2-4 R-73 or Fatter) for high altitude missions + high maneuvering armed Turbojet UAV's like the Sofreh Mahi + armed high maneuvering propeller driven UAV's

What they showed was clearly inadequate compared to Iran's known capabilities! Computer aided designs & 3D printing allows for cheap & fast prototyping & the development of newer more capable designs especially when it comes to UAV's & scale down models
R&D is cheaper & faster than ever before allowing you to push the limits of design in ways that have never been possible before so the fact that they are using an MQM-107 for anything other than target practice is not a good sign at all!

(Their main secret is that they release oxygen in the same way plants release oxygen during photosynthesis when hit with UV light)

And if Iran doesn't quickly catch up in 3D printing, metallurgy & composites and provide them & other new tool & materials to every R&D facility in the country we will have trouble caching up scientifically in the next decade!

 

[raptor22]

It would fall on the responsibility of the closest system! IRGC Air Defense units are mostly mobile systems but if they have a system that's close by then they'll be notified by Iran's Air Defense Force & then they will activate their system and engage if necessary!

As you said UAV's with MANPAD's operated by Iran's Air Defense units are mainly to country UAV's that are out of reach of AAA!
Scrambling a Fighter Jet or using expensive SAM's to intercept a RQ-7 or a Scan Eagle doesn't make much sense & you'll go bankrupt trying to chase or shoot down cheap UAV's when you can do it with far cheaper platform using cheaper Iranian made MANPADS!

Iran's Air Defense Force at the very least should be armed with Karrar-4(armed with one HQ-7 or Shahab Sagheb), Simorgh (2-4 R-73 or Fatter) for high altitude missions + high maneuvering armed Turbojet UAV's like the Sofreh Mahi + armed high maneuvering propeller driven UAV's

What they showed was clearly inadequate compared to Iran's known capabilities! Computer aided designs & 3D printing allows for cheap & fast prototyping & the development of newer more capable designs especially when it comes to UAV's & scale down models
R&D is cheaper & faster than ever before allowing you to push the limits of design in ways that have never been possible before so the fact that they are using an MQM-107 for anything other than target practice is not a good sign at all!

(Their main secret is that they release oxygen in the same way plants release oxygen during photosynthesis when hit with UV light)

And if Iran doesn't quickly catch up in 3D printing, metallurgy & composites and provide them & other new tool & materials to every R&D facility in the country we will have trouble caching up scientifically in the next decade!

Does it mean that that these UAV's with MANPAD might have regular CAP?