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How much you guys reckon a S-136 would cost.

$20K a piece?

Example: Say 5000 pieces were produced = $100million.

S-136 was probably made at some point on 2019 or earlier. First known use was in 2019. Maybe had them for 3+ years. It's possible to to produce them into the 4 digits. I don't know about getting up to 5000 pieces which may take some more time till it gets there. Just guesstimating. It's a decent chance theirs atleast 1000 pieces by now.
I don't believe that's the right question., The question is what was the barter mechanism and in what form. Attaching 'dollar' values as a measure of internal production is akin to applying a yardstick to measure the quality of a poem. Simply doesn't apply.
 
Crazy how low these values are, even at the low Ghz end, its more visible but you can't actually target anything at those bands. Plus low altitude flying,

Anyone surprise now when Isreal pulled up F-35s to down a S-191? Ground based radars can't accurately target them.

Seems like either hope you have some SHORAD very close by, or hope it malfunctions.
 
Crazy how low these values are, even at the low Ghz end, its more visible but you can't actually target anything at those bands. Plus low altitude flying,

Anyone surprise now when Isreal pulled up F-35s to down a S-191? Ground based radars can't accurately target them.

Seems like either hope you have some SHORAD very close by, or hope it malfunctions.

They're trying hard to come up with solutions.

New Air Force group to test AI and anti-drone tech in Middle East​


The Air Force is starting a new organization to field-test unmanned systems and artificial intelligence technologies in the Middle East, the service’s top general in the region said.

The small task force, dubbed Detachment 99, will look for cheaper ways to detect Iran’s aerial drones, Maj. Gen. Alexus Grynkewich, head of 9th Air Force (Air Forces Central), said Monday at the Air Force Association’s annual Air, Space and Cyber Conference in Maryland.

“It’s a small group of super-empowered airmen that I’m going to provide resources to so they can rapidly innovate and experiment in our literal sandbox that we have in the Middle East,” Grynkewich said at the conference.

The group will resemble the Navy’s Task Force 59, which has tested commercially available, relatively inexpensive unmanned surface vessels on missions in Middle East waters since its founding last year.

Detachment 99 would collaborate with Task Force 59, Grynkewich said. It also could work with the Air Force Academy, where Grynkewich is working to get funding for cadets to build drone systems, he said.

The group initially will look to test multiple short-range surveillance systems that are “below the million-dollar price point, preferably in the thousands” of dollars, Grynkewich said.

The Air Force is starting a new organization to field-test unmanned systems and artificial intelligence technologies in the Middle East, the service’s top general in the region said.

The small task force, dubbed Detachment 99, will look for cheaper ways to detect Iran’s aerial drones, Maj. Gen. Alexus Grynkewich, head of 9th Air Force (Air Forces Central), said Monday at the Air Force Association’s annual Air, Space and Cyber Conference in Maryland.

“It’s a small group of super-empowered airmen that I’m going to provide resources to so they can rapidly innovate and experiment in our literal sandbox that we have in the Middle East,” Grynkewich said at the conference.

The group will resemble the Navy’s Task Force 59, which has tested commercially available, relatively inexpensive unmanned surface vessels on missions in Middle East waters since its founding last year.

Detachment 99 would collaborate with Task Force 59, Grynkewich said. It also could work with the Air Force Academy, where Grynkewich is working to get funding for cadets to build drone systems, he said.

The group initially will look to test multiple short-range surveillance systems that are “below the million-dollar price point, preferably in the thousands” of dollars, Grynkewich said.

Various systems to counter specific drones exist but don't always work well together in the face of Iranian drones, which are some of the most advanced in the world, the general said.

U.S. officials are looking into whether an Iran-affiliated militia was behind a rocket attack that targeted a U.S. base in northeast Syria on Sunday night, which U.S. Central Command said did not cause casualties.

U.S. forces in Syria also have seen “troubling” behavior from Russian forces in the region in recent months, with transport planes and fighter jets flying over U.S. troops without any warning, Grynkewich said. He attributed that to the personal motivations of some Russian officers.

“Generals who were in charge of certain aspects of the Ukrainian invasion have been sent into Syria as their follow-up assignment because of their failure in Russia, and I believe some of those Russian leaders are trying to rebuild their reputation,” Grynkewich said.

 
They're trying hard to come up with solutions.

New Air Force group to test AI and anti-drone tech in Middle East​


The Air Force is starting a new organization to field-test unmanned systems and artificial intelligence technologies in the Middle East, the service’s top general in the region said.

The small task force, dubbed Detachment 99, will look for cheaper ways to detect Iran’s aerial drones, Maj. Gen. Alexus Grynkewich, head of 9th Air Force (Air Forces Central), said Monday at the Air Force Association’s annual Air, Space and Cyber Conference in Maryland.

“It’s a small group of super-empowered airmen that I’m going to provide resources to so they can rapidly innovate and experiment in our literal sandbox that we have in the Middle East,” Grynkewich said at the conference.

The group will resemble the Navy’s Task Force 59, which has tested commercially available, relatively inexpensive unmanned surface vessels on missions in Middle East waters since its founding last year.

Detachment 99 would collaborate with Task Force 59, Grynkewich said. It also could work with the Air Force Academy, where Grynkewich is working to get funding for cadets to build drone systems, he said.

The group initially will look to test multiple short-range surveillance systems that are “below the million-dollar price point, preferably in the thousands” of dollars, Grynkewich said.

The Air Force is starting a new organization to field-test unmanned systems and artificial intelligence technologies in the Middle East, the service’s top general in the region said.

The small task force, dubbed Detachment 99, will look for cheaper ways to detect Iran’s aerial drones, Maj. Gen. Alexus Grynkewich, head of 9th Air Force (Air Forces Central), said Monday at the Air Force Association’s annual Air, Space and Cyber Conference in Maryland.

“It’s a small group of super-empowered airmen that I’m going to provide resources to so they can rapidly innovate and experiment in our literal sandbox that we have in the Middle East,” Grynkewich said at the conference.

The group will resemble the Navy’s Task Force 59, which has tested commercially available, relatively inexpensive unmanned surface vessels on missions in Middle East waters since its founding last year.

Detachment 99 would collaborate with Task Force 59, Grynkewich said. It also could work with the Air Force Academy, where Grynkewich is working to get funding for cadets to build drone systems, he said.

The group initially will look to test multiple short-range surveillance systems that are “below the million-dollar price point, preferably in the thousands” of dollars, Grynkewich said.

Various systems to counter specific drones exist but don't always work well together in the face of Iranian drones, which are some of the most advanced in the world, the general said.

U.S. officials are looking into whether an Iran-affiliated militia was behind a rocket attack that targeted a U.S. base in northeast Syria on Sunday night, which U.S. Central Command said did not cause casualties.

U.S. forces in Syria also have seen “troubling” behavior from Russian forces in the region in recent months, with transport planes and fighter jets flying over U.S. troops without any warning, Grynkewich said. He attributed that to the personal motivations of some Russian officers.

“Generals who were in charge of certain aspects of the Ukrainian invasion have been sent into Syria as their follow-up assignment because of their failure in Russia, and I believe some of those Russian leaders are trying to rebuild their reputation,” Grynkewich said.

Seems like they don't really have any solutions/ideas beyond improving surveillance. Maybe aerial balloons. The problem starts to become more acute when the aspect of scale is involved. US solutions are never easily scalable due to the price tag.
 
Wonder what system was used to shoot this down? Was it picked up by radar or was it a manpad? Not sure if these get hot enough to get picked up by IR missiles
They can catch it inflight if they have some EO/IR Optics nearby. If it is close enough ARH SAMs should be able to catch it if guided close enough.
 

 

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