Iranian Second Space & Strategic Rocket Launch Center

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How do we know it is named Imam Sadegh Space Center? The official name. Sharud is the one given by the western intelligence.



Look no further. It is no secret that Russia is a fallen power that is totally dependent from others for rare earth minerals, critical to the defence, telecommunications and renewable energy sectors.

But cash strapped it can't even pay for the import from China, that totally dominates this sector.

Therefore Russia seeks its survival by barting anything valuable such as Soviet era vintage military tech including WMDs, for the most needed critical North Korean rare earth minerals.

This is even made easier as both nations share 18 km of terrestrial border, and a vast common maritime area were any transaction can be made at sea.

Russia has $1.5 billion plan to dent China's rare earth dominance

Russia plans investment of $1.5 billion in rare earth minerals, critical to the defence, telecommunications and renewable energy sectors, as it strives to become the biggest producer after China by 2030, a top government official told Reuters.

www.reuters.com

Russia offers:

• R-27 SLBM
• R-250 engine
• R-16 ICBM
• 9K720 Iskander SRBM
• Various associated TEL
• S-300 SAM
• S-400 Triumf SAM
• 9K330 Tor SAM
• T-14 Armata MBT
• et cetera

All weapon systems proven to have appeared over the recent years in North Korea!

You are off here my friend.

Russia is not desperate at all. Iran and NK got critical systems from Russia in the 90's but not anymore.

Proof for it? PK-4 is so advanced that its near Bulava technology level. If you think Russia would sell Bulava technology...

NK Iskander is very different to RU Iskander
TELs were from INF dismantled IRBMs, no critical technology
S-400 is not in NK
Tor is not in NK, they might have got it via Irans Tor R&D programs
Armata is very different to new NK tank

No: Russia is a superpower and don't proliferate such critical technology as ICBM/SLBM solid fuel technology.

The only technology partner NK has, that is not like Russia and China already at superpower level and would cooperate, is Iran.

 

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You are off here my friend.

S-400 is not in NK

All official news from North Korean source:

Ponghae-6 (번개6호; 闪电6号) or Lightning-6 SAM

Ponghae-6 is the North Korean name for the Russian S-400 SAM.

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▲ 1. On May 3, 2012, the First Chairman of the National Defense Commission Kim Jong Un visited the KPAAF and the Air Defence Command Forces and examined the latest surface-to-air missile launcher that was temporarily displayed at the headquarters front office. In the photo above, the launcher, which was only partially shown in the profile, was equipped with a Lightning-6 surface-to-air missile, Lightning-6 is on par with the world's top-rated Russian S-400. Since the detection distance of the state-of-the-art phased array radar associated with the Russian S-400 launch system is 600 km, the detection distance of the state-of-the-art phased array radar associated with the Lightning-6 launch system is estimated to be 600 km.

번개 6호 - 위키백과, 우리 모두의 백과사전

ko.wikipedia.org

Proof for it? PK-4 is so advanced that its near Bulava technology level. If you think Russia would sell Bulava technology...

Moksong-3 (목성3호; 木星3号) or Jupiter-3 ICBM

The new Moksong-3 ICBM of 3 meter diameter with 4 engines was officially compared in 2017 media to the 2.5 m diameter Russian UR-100N ICBM, aka SS-19 Stiletto.


Interesting hint at the the four engines Moksong-3 (Jupiter-3) ICBM for the next space launch, as posted following the Hwasong-15 ICBM test launch of 29th November 2017.
Note that some of the retired Russian SS-19 launchers have since been converted into satellite-launch vehicles. There are two SLV versions, the ‘Rokot’ and the ‘Strela.’8 The ‘Rokot’ adds a third liquid stage to the SS-19 frame in order to send payloads weighing up to 1,850 kg into low Earth.

Hwasong-15 Powered By Dual Engines

2017-12-01

If North Korea produces a four-engines rocket like the Russian SS-19 Stiletto (RS-18) intercontinental ballistic missile, it will have the world's most powerful strategic ballistic missile. This monster-intercontinental ballistic missile can be equipped with more than 10 Multiple Independent Reentry Vehicle (MIRV) warheads with separate guidance and targeting systems.

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▲ 2. Next North Korean space launch: the Moksong-3 four engines rocket, similar to the Russian SS-19 Stiletto (RS-18) intercontinental ballistic missile.

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No: Russia is a superpower and don't proliferate such critical technology as ICBM/SLBM solid fuel technology.

The only technology partner NK has, that is not like Russia and China already at superpower level and would cooperate, is Iran.

Future Russian weapon systems not even paraded as of 2020 in North Korea:


North Korean hypersonic missile

Hypersonic missile revealed on 4 July 2017, by Korean aerospace analysts:

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North Korean scramjet engine

2017/07/17

If North Korea had made a Hwasong-14 ICBM with triconic nuclear warhead, it would not claim the missile as a "new strategic weapon that the world does not have and can not imitate."
As you can see, the idea is that the Hwasong-14 ICBM is a completely new missile with no equivalent in the world and that can not be imitated.
Like the Russian Topol-M ICBM nosecone, the long, thick conical-shaped Hwasong-14 warhead nosecone is an indication that the nosecone contains a scramjet-powered warhead that alters course midflight.

Spoiler: Links

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http://jajusibo.com/sub_read.html?uid=34576&section=sc38&section2=

3. ▲ Russian scramjet engine used to produce a new class of ICBM, for illustration purpose only.


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You are off here my friend.

Russia is not desperate at all. Iran and NK got critical systems from Russia in the 90's but not anymore.

As the Russian desperation betrays an obvious sense of insecurity, we have to clarify the geopolitical background.

All territorial gains of the Soviet Union secured at the end of the WW2 in the western front have today mostly vanished.

First in a string after the defeat of the USSR in the Cold War in 1991. This include all the previously independent nations at the start of the WW2: Poland, Czechoslovakia, East Germany, Hungary, Romania and Bulgaria.

At the exceptions of a few territories like Konigsberg.

Then came the the turn for the former Soviet Republics, that is territorial gains that preceded the WW2: Latvia, Letonia, Estonia, Bessarabia and Northern Bukovina, Kazhakstan, Kyrgystan, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Azerbaijan, Georgia, Armenia, Ukraine and Belarus.

Followed a few decades later by geopolitical reversal or severe destabilization: Ukraine in 2014, then this year Belarus, Kyrgyzstan, Azerbaijan and Armenia.


This is only half the story. Because in the Eastern front, the situation could be as worrying if not worse for the Kremlin.

Should North Korea change its stance toward Russia, due to economic or political weakness, an East German scenario would trigger a chain reaction of even greater magnitude than in Europe!

Because Russian territorial gains would invariably also be jeopardized in the Kuril Islands and then the Sakhalin Island.

Finally, last but not least, the control of the most valuable rare-earth-rich territories could also be jeopardized in Outer Manchurian, Outer Mongolia and Tannu Tuva.

This would signal the breakup of the Russian Federation, and its very presence in the Asian continent!


Now we see why Russia is opposing at any cost the possible destabilization and fall of North Korea. Even by the proliferation of the latest weaponries, WMDs included such as VX.

And this strategy is even generalized to consolidate all unstable borders such as Iran and Turkey.

Because Russia would lose everything and this struggle is about its very survival.

 

[PeeD]

Ponghae-6 is the North Korean name for the Russian S-400 SAM.

Come on. Seems like you can't digest N. Koreans to develop systems on their own and as a Chinese you look at Russia and thinks they secretly support NK very much.

No. That NK SAM is not a S-400 or a copy of it, its an indigenous project based on the S-300. Same thing with their Iskander-like missile, its very different to the Iskander.

Now we see why Russia is opposing at any cost the possible destabilization and fall of North Korea. Even by the proliferation of the latest weaponries, WMDs included such as VX.

And this strategy is even generalized to consolidate all unstable borders such as Iran and Turkey.

Because Russia would lose everything and this struggle is about its very survival.

Even if the geostrategic situation is as you described from Chinese viewpoint: Russia will not transfer most critical technology to NK.
Iranians and Koreans basically stole those R-27, RD-250 and S-300 technology from post collapse Russia in the 90's. Both worked hard and often together to master that technology.

I hope you are not jealous as a Chinese on what N Koreans have achieved more or less alone and with some cooperation with Iran.
Its really impressive for such a small nation.

 

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Peed, I find it hard to believe that the little, isolated country with little natural resorces and a prisoner population is able to make anything on their own, especially all these missiles and their components.

How much of these claims do you think are real, and how much bullcrap?

I cant believe a nation that can bearly feed itsef, very isolated, no exprts, no natural resources is able to not only make surface to surface missiles, but also now the s-300 SAM and Iskaneder clone?!!

I have followed Iran´s developmnt for nearly 30 years, and know exactly how difficult these devlopments are. And lets not forget that Iran is 20 times the size of N korea, with much larger population, huge ammount of natural resources and access to the wider global community.

 

[PeeD]

Peed, I find it hard to believe that the little, isolated country with little natural resorces and a prisoner population is able to make anything on their own, especially all these missiles and their components.

How much of these claims do you think are real, and how much bullcrap?

I cant believe a nation that can bearly feed itsef, very isolated, no exprts, no natural resources is able to not only make surface to surface missiles, but also now the s-300 SAM and Iskaneder clone?!!

I have followed Iran´s developmnt for nearly 30 years, and know exactly how difficult these devlopments are. And lets not forget that Iran is 20 times the size of N korea, with much larger population, huge ammount of natural resources and access to the wider global community.

N. Koreans have a very disciplined mindset and work mentality.

They were also much ahead of Iran in defense up until the mid-90's. They started in the 60's, Iran in the 90's.

Plus they have a war economy as their war practically never ended.

They might not be most innovative but their Juche ideology makes them to build all systems, step by step, not caring for if it makes economical sense.

I always say look at physics and math olympiad rankings to get the picture.

Iran and NK are natural partners as both have superpower level aspirations but are too small and were too backwards to make it alone to that level.

 

[Galactic Penguin SST]

• For the moment, the only solid propellant motors technology that Iran has demonstrated before North Korea is TVC, but only for the relatively small 0.9 meter diameter Salman-1 used as second stage of the Qased SLV.

It seems that this is no longer true. If verified, then clearly North Korea is leading.

North Korean Pukguksong series Part 4: Pukguksong-4 SLBM

The structure of the Pukguksong-4 SLBM

From the initial analysis of the Pukguksong-4, this new class of missile does not follow the main engine plus small graphite jet vane deflector design of the Soviet era R-27/4K10 submarine-launched ballistic missile, and it does not have the large grid fins of the Hwasong-10 missile.

It has most likely adopted the TVC (Thrust Vector Control) Actuator System, technology that has been fully verified on the Hwasong-15 intercontinental ballistic missile.

Shape analysis of the Pukguksong-4 SLBM

Judging from the shape and technical data of the missile body of the Pukguksong-4 currently disclosed, its performance is not weak at all, and its performance has even exceeded by a quantum leap the old vintage Soviet-era R-27/4K10.

Compared with the Pukguksong-1 SLBM which was first publicly tested in 2015 and the Pukguksong-2 GLBM which was first tested in 2017, the biggest difference is the shape of the Pukguksong-4's fairing and its aerodynamic.

The warhead's fairing of the Pukguksong-1 submarine-launched ballistic missile adopts a sharp cone design with a huge stable skirt, which can effectively reduce the drag when flying in the atmosphere. This is also a commonly used design for early submarine-launched ballistic missiles, such as the US Polaris-A1 and the Soviet Union's R-27 submarine-launched ballistic missiles, and also China's Julang-1 missile.

Judging from the currently disclosed photos of the Pukguksong-4 SLBM, this type of missile has changed the design of the conical warhead with a stabilizing skirt used by the Polaris-1 missile, and adopted the same design as the U.S. Trident-IID5 and the French M51. The same oval blunt head design. Compared with the conical warhead, this design has better underwater hydrodynamic flow performance, but greater flight resistance in the atmosphere.

According to the analysis of military experts, the Pukguksong-3/4 SLBM has removed the design flaws of the previous two generations, and its flight stability has been improved. It has shown a leap forward in the field of submarine-launched missiles, such as changing the pointed warhead of the Polaris-1 missile to a gentle arc, reducing underwater resistance and so on.



Secondly, the details of the high-definition picture of the missile body also show that the Pukguksong-3/4 SLBM has added bubble generating holes on both sides of the missile body's top, which are used to generate bubbles that wrap the missile body underwater, and isolate the missile body from contact with seawater.

This Active Cavitation Technology reduces the underwater resistance of the missile. This design can also be seen in the submarine missiles of other countries.

The principle of Active Cavitation Technology in water is similar to the supercavitation phenomenon. The missile is equipped with a cavitation generator, which can produce a large number of cavitations to wrap the missile body. At this time, the medium in contact with the missile body will change from sea water to gas. Greatly reducing the friction resistance of the missile. Active Cavitation Technology in water is commonly used in submarine-launched ballistic missiles in France and Russia, because the French and Russian missiles usually use underwater ignition technology.

Water friction resistance is much larger than un the air, which greatly consumes missile fuel and affects the maximum range. Therefore, Active Cavitation Technology is required to reduce water resistance.

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▲ 1. The Pukguksong-3/4 SLBM has added bubble generating holes on both sides of the missile body's top.

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▲ 2. Illustration of Active Cavitation Technology.

Launching ballistic missiles underwater is a very difficult technology. Overcoming this technology shows that North Korean submarines can launch ballistic missiles from underwater, improving the missile's attack capability and survivability.

The underwater launch of submarine-launched missiles has to go through three stages: underwater flight phase, water exit phase, and atmospheric flight phase. Among them, the underwater flight phase and the water exit phase are unique to the launch of submarine-launched missiles, and are also critical in determining the success or failure of the launch.

The most difficult part of launching a missile under water is to consider the evolution of the missile in two different mediums: underwater and atmospheric. Submarine-launched missiles must be agile in both water and the atmosphere. The missile is launched from the water into the atmosphere, and it has to work stably in two different media. This step takes the shortest time, especially when it breaks through the water. It is calculated in seconds, but it is the key to the success or failure of the submarine-launched missile launch. If a pointed warhead is used as the warhead shape, a wide truncated cone needs to be installed at the rear to stabilize the attitude of the missile in the water.

This not only increases the length of the submarine-launched missile, but also causes a sharp decrease in resistance when the missile crosses the water's surface into the atmosphere.

This results in the missile's attitude to be instable, which in turn leads to the launch failure.

Most of the early submarine-launched missiles in many countries all over the world also used pointed designs, such as China’s Julang-1, the U.S. Polaris-A1, Russia’s R-27, etc., but the launch success rate is actually not high.

The U.S. submarine-launched ballistic missile Polaris-A1 to Trident-II D5 changed gradually from a cone to a blunt nosecone.

Therefore, in order to ensure the stability in the water, with the gradual research of submarine-launched technology, the warheads of submarine-launched missiles have been changed to a blunt shape, which is different from ordinary intercontinental missiles.

In the process of developing submarine-launched ballistic missiles, the Americans gradually improved from the Polaris-A1 and A2 with a cone-shaped head design to the Trident series use of an oval blunt head.

In addition, Russia's Bulava, China's Julang-2, France's M51 and other submarine-launched missiles also use a blunt body shape.

The reason why the blunt shape is favored for underwater launch is its cavitation effect.

Since the top surface area of the warhead of this shape is large, a larger water area can be opened during the propulsion process, and the missile body can move forward in the cavity supported by the warhead. If a bubble generator is added to the warhead, it is basically the same as traveling in the air, which can minimize the resistance in the water. In addition, the use of blunt warheads can also increase the internal space and be equipped with more multiple reentry vehicle (MRV) to improve the missile penetration and attack capabilities.


General land-based missiles and air-based missiles only need to consider air resistance. In order to reduce air resistance, missiles often use a slender body and a sharp conical warhead or arc design. However, this kind of missiles are not intended to be used underwater, and more cavitation will be produced when the missile exits the water.

These cavitation bubbles will quickly collapse at the moment the missile exits the water, which will cause a large load on the warhead and the missile body and damage the missile structure. For sea water to flow out steadily, it is best to have a blunt tip, and it is best to generate bubbles by itself to reduce water resistance and maintain a stable hydrodynamic flow.

However, the shortcomings of the oval blunt design warhead are also very obvious. When the submarine-launched missile flies in the atmosphere at high speed after exiting the water, the blunt tip has a large air resistance, which severely reduces the speed and range of the missile. Flying in the air requires the least resistance arc head.

Two ways to resolve this contradiction have been developed among the major powers.

One is the blunt-headed Trident of the United States and the M51 of France that pop up the drag reducing rod called aerospike after exiting the water.

Missiles or launch vehicles will encounter huge air resistance when flying in the air, and a large part of the engine energy is used to overcome air resistance. The head resistance of the spacecraft mainly comes from the bow shock wave near the head. The faster the missile or rocket, the higher the pressure and temperature in this area, and the resistance will increase sharply. It is generally believed that in order to overcome the bow shock, a missile needs at least a quarter of the thrust of the engine, which can be said to be very lossy. The drag reduction aerospike is designed to overcome the bow shock wave. Its principle is very simple. It pierces the bow shock wave and turns it into an oblique shock wave. The pressure and resistance of the latter are much smaller than the bow shock wave. This is equivalent to increased engine thrust and improved missile range.

The American Trident-IC4 uses a retractable drag reduction aerospike for the first time on a submarine missile, which is usually retracted in the fairing.

When the missile's exits the water, the rocket engine is ignited after 4 seconds, the drag reduction aerospike extends out of the fairing and pierces the air.

According to relevant data, the drag reduction effect of the aerospike can reach more than 30%.

In addition to the use of aerospike, a double-head design can also be used to solve the problem of the contradiction between the movement of the missile in the water and the atmosphere, which is to add a blunt fairing outside the missile cone fairing.

After the missile exits out of the water and enters the atmosphere, the blunt-headed outer cover is separated, and the missile exposes its cone fairing ready to start its atmospheric flight.

India’s K15 submarine-launched missile uses this design. The most ideal shape of the fairing to deal with seawater resistance is a blunt head shape. The blunt head shape fairing has little resistance underwater, but after exiting out of the water, the resistance increases. The sharp cone fairing is the opposite, so the most ideal fairing shape for atmospheric resistance is a sharp cone. The purpose of adopting the double hood design is to complement each other and have the best shape underwater and in the air.

But the disadvantage is that it increases the complexity of the launch process, mainly due to the addition of a low-altitude fairing ejection step. At the same time, the blunt fairing and ejection pyrotechnic will increase the length and weight of the missile, and make the internal structure of the missile more complicated, which will reduce the missile's reliability.

The most eye-catching part of the Pukguksong-3 missile test is that the missile exits directly out of water without the need for an additional protective cover, thus effectively reducing the length and weight of the missile. As an economically and technologically underdeveloped country, North Korea’s ability to acquire such mature technology is indeed impressive.

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▲ 3. Korean-developed Singijon, at the origin of multistage rockets, in the early 15th century, and fitted with aerospikes to extend the range.

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▲ 4. M-51 SLBM nose cone section with an aerospike.

Further development of this concept should soon be demonstrated with air-spike. This is formed by concentrated energy, from a pulsed laser, projected forwards from the body, which produces a region of low density hot air ahead of the body. This has the advantage over a structural aerospike that the air density is lower than that behind a shock wave providing increased drag reduction.

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▲ 5. Further development of this concept should soon be demonstrated with the DPRK's pulsed laser air-spike. Uploaded on December 23, 2018.

Regarding speed, it is estimated that the maximum speed of Pukguksong-3 SLBM is about 10 Mach. This is mainly because according to the available information, the Pukguksong-2 GLBM previously tested by North Korea has a similar design to the Pukguksong-3 SLBM and it is said that its maximum speed is Mach 10. However, because North Korea has the potential to continue to promote engine development, it cannot be ruled out that the missile has a higher speed. It is estimated that the potential maximum speed is about 12 Mach.

	Initial calculations on the Pukguksong-4: Weight: ~23t (without gas generator) Payload: ~500kg Range: ~6300km (short range ICBM) Length: 9,8m (with gas generator) Diameter: 1,8m Features: Flexnozzle TVC 1st stage 2 Filament wound composite motor stages Compact nozzle design 8:16 PM · Oct 16, 2020
	The structural ratios applied here are according to the motor technology used, reasonable estimates: 1st stage 8,75% 2nd stage 10,5% In a worst case scenario, the range would be reduced to 5000km and the structural ratios very unfavorable at: 1st stage 12,5% 2nd stage 14,5%
	With an effective aerospike the author gets ~7300km max. range There is no space for jet vane TVC on the 1st stage and if they have flexnozzle tech. Then its certainly also applied to the 2nd stage. Thats why the structural ratios are: 1st stage 8,75% 2nd stage 10,5% Quite optimistic ones

https://twitter.com/Pataramesh/status/1317167509993328640

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▲ 4. Differences between the DPRK Pukguksong prototype and the mature looking PK-4 from the recent parade. This is the author's interpretation of it and there are still open issues like the TVC actuator of the first stage. 2020.

 

[Galactic Penguin SST]

Imam Sadegh Space Center’s test stands sat idle for almost five years after their construction. Then, between April and May 2016, the first motor test took place, followed by a larger test stand being introduced into service in June 2017. Finally, the site’s second largest test stand was used in March 2019 but left only a small mark ground, perhaps indicating a failed test. In November 2019, a new motor test happened at test stand number three, this time resulting in a substantial scorch mark.

So far, in November 2019, Iran has successfully completed the hot test firing of a solid propellant rocket engine developing 118 to 177 ton-force of thrust equivalent to the Chinese Long March 11 SLV and DF-31 ICBM (Operational range: 8'000 km to 12'000 km).

In addition, Iran is also about to test an even bigger 164 to 246 ton-force thrust solid propellant rocket engine. That would even surpass the DF-41 ICBM!

Imam Sadegh Space Center’s solid propellant test stand	Rocket engine thrust	First static test
#1	21 to 31 tf	April 2016
#2	108 to 162 tf	June 2017
#3	118 to 177 tf	November 2019
#4	164 to 246 tf	Pending

•Geolocation

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▲ 1. Imam Sadegh Space Center’s solid propellant test stand imaged on 16 February 2019。

36°12'52.6"N 55°21'50.4"E
36.214612, 55.363987
Khar Turan National Park, Semnan Province, Iran
6977+RH Zard Abiyeh, Iran

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▲ 2. Imam Sadegh Space Center’s solid propellant test stands #1,#2,#3 and #4。

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▲ 3. Imam Sadegh Space Center’s solid propellant test stand #3。



真主之大！巨大喜讯！

IRGC Aerospace Force Deputy Sardar Majid Mousavi disclosed Iran's possession of an ICBM capability, on the occasion of the anniversary of the martyrdom of the father of the Islamic Republic of Iran's ballistic missile programme, Martyr Haj Hassan Tehrani Moghaddam.

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▲ 4. IRGC Aerospace Force Deputy Sardar Majid Mousavi disclosed Iran's possession of an ICBM capability。

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▲ 5. IRGC Aerospace Force Deputy Sardar Majid Mousavi disclosed Iran's possession of an ICBM capability。

This is confirmed. IRGC-ASF Deputy Seyyed Majid Mousavi mentioned Iran's possession of an ICBM capability, with remarks first reported by State TV news and later in other media.

Iran owes its authority, power to Martyr Tehrani Moghadam

Nov 11, 2020, 4:20 PM

A ceremony held on the occasion of the anniversary of the martyrdom of General Hasan Tehrani Moghaddam (29 October 1959 – 12 November 2011).

In this ceremony, General Majid Mousavi said that today, the Islamic Republic of Iran owes its authority and power in the region and world to the efforts of all the martyrs, such as General Soleimani and General Tehrani Moghaddam who brought peace and security for the Iranian nation.

Referring to the enemies’ move of preventing Iran from achieving missile power through imposing the toughest sanctions, General Mousavi said, "Today, however, with efforts of Martyr Tehrani Moghaddam, relying on indigenous knowledge and defense industry, Iran, After Russia, is one of the most powerful countries in the world in terms of missile power."

Hailing achievement of IRGC Aerospace Force in the fields of launch silos, missile system, short-range, long-range missiles and intercontinental missiles, he said, “Martyr General Tehrani Moghaddam's decision to rely on the domestic defense industry, based on leader’s guidelines, was so fruitful for boosting Iran’s defense power.”

known as the father of Iran's missile program, Tehrani Moghaddam founded Iran’s long-range missile program and designed the Shahab, Ghadr, and Sejjil missiles with an operational range of more than 1,000 kilometers.

He martyred on November 12, 2011, in a blast at the Alghadir missile base at Bid Ganeh, 30 miles away from Tehran.

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And indeed, Iran has good teachers.

An early picture of Iran’s ballistic missile program founder General Hassan Tehrani Moghaddam next to a Dongfeng 1 MRBM at the Bejing Military Museum during his younger age.

https://archive.is/DiJ2A/2fc60ad56505b679e17b2ff99b77d30248628371.jpg ; https://archive.is/DiJ2A/1577522b76d36421f8874cbbeb065cfaff10d6a5/scr.png ; http://web.archive.org/web/20201114...Image/1399/08/22/139908221212193821602624.jpg ; http://web.archive.org/web/20201114...-اختصاصی-از-شهید-حاج-حسن-تهرانی-مقدم/photo/35 ; https://archive.vn/Idj1H
▲ 6. An early picture of General Hassan Tehrani Moghaddam next to a Dongfeng 1 MRBM at the Bejing Military Museum.

 

[Galactic Penguin SST]

This thread was created 6 years ago, on 24th December 2014.

Since then we have waited for years to see the ultimate solid propellant ICBM...

Today, for Christmas 2020, this moment has come. Humbly offered by Santa Kim! ⚛

More impressive than the liquid propellant Hwasong-16 ICBM, with a new TEL upgraded in size to 12 axles (previously 11 axles for the Hwasong-16)!

https://twitter.com/x/status/1341262094319042563

https://archive.is/a0hz8/609f19e58e1f777fe185b65e97c359a10b608ac3.jpg ; https://archive.is/a0hz8/31c3d2185d8b48dc7cf96cb6cad1fc504e53d2c3/scr.png ; https://web.archive.org/web/20201222131416/https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ep0enclVoAEZQIz?format=jpg&name=4096x4096 ; https://twitter.com/ColinZwirko/status/1341262094319042563
▲ 1. North Korea unveils new 12-axle TEL carrying unknown mega ICBM. 6:59 AM · Dec 22, 2020·Twitter

First assessment:

• Name: Pukguksong-5
• Class: Intercontinental Ballistic Missile (ICBM)
• Propulsion: Three-stage solid propellant
• Length: ~20 m
• Diameter: ~2.5 m
• Range: 15'000 km
• Payload: 2'500 kg

 

[aryobarzan]

Congratulations are in order for Uncle Kim. He has been a good boy this year so Santa brought him some very impressive toy!...

 

[Galactic Penguin SST]

Peed, I find it hard to believe that the little, isolated country with little natural resorces and a prisoner population is able to make anything on their own, especially all these missiles and their components.

How much of these claims do you think are real, and how much bullcrap?

I cant believe a nation that can bearly feed itsef, very isolated, no exprts, no natural resources is able to not only make surface to surface missiles, but also now the s-300 SAM and Iskaneder clone?!!

I have followed Iran´s developmnt for nearly 30 years, and know exactly how difficult these devlopments are. And lets not forget that Iran is 20 times the size of N korea, with much larger population, huge ammount of natural resources and access to the wider global community.

• Access to the the "Third Korea", that is ethnic Koreans of China that occupies higher academic, scientific (Chinese lunar exploration program, Chinese manned space program), administrative and political positions, access to the ethnic Koreans of Japan

• First Rare Earth Reserve in the World with 250 millions tons, basically the holy grail in today's world, that can be bartered for anything

• Not claims but documented facts:

IRGC satellite ground control station
Nov 29, 2020
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AuucVPMxpM

Again compare with this North Korean ~35 meters diameter radio antenna (38.975776°N, 125.845287°E) that could easily be used to track a lunar orbiter!

https://archive.vn/L6tNu/1704aabe6d42f39f4f4357620b1b46797aff9ecc.jpg ; https://archive.vn/L6tNu/938923d6f291bb707e077bc99cb146c5df12f438/scr.png ; http://web.archive.org/web/20201230200906/https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eqf88UKU0AEW8nc?format=jpg&name=large ; https://twitter.com/ISNJH/status/1344321149853790209
▲ 1. ~35 meters diameter satellite dish in DPRK 38.975776° 125.845287°

For reference, the 35 meter diameter one being built in South Korea for suporting its lunar exploration program!

Supporting Korea's Lunar Exploration Program (KLEP), the completion of the deep space tracking ground station, which is the largest in Korea, with a single dish radio antenna of 35 meters diameter!

The deep space ground station plans to play a key role in performing space exploration missions by communicating with the Korean lunar orbiter, which will operate on the moon at a distance of about 384'400 km, and controlling its trajectory for lunar orbit insertion.

https://archive.vn/Ejxcc/f015e74c8772a8571421bf77ea5a3d75841272c3.jpg ; https://archive.vn/Ejxcc/ae1e6cc10e4cd70a57450b9f4caece19cd9d54af/scr.png ; http://web.archive.org/web/20201212065943/https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eo7sSINVQAEDEnC?format=jpg&name=large ; https://twitter.com/kari2030/status/1337265949355884550
▲ 1. Supporting Korea's Lunar Exploration Program (KLEP), the completion of the deep space tracking ground station. Dec 11, 2020

 

[Galactic Penguin SST]

Congratulations are in order for Uncle Kim. He has been a good boy this year so Santa brought him some very impressive toy!...

For your patience you'll be rewarded with a surprising present for the Bahman 22 celebrations week!

Activities spotted at Imam Sadegh Satellite Launch Center

https://twitter.com/x/status/1344149612446187521

Per Jabbar Ali Zakeri, the Zafar 2 satellite is ready to be launched. The only activity seen on Sat Imagery comes from Sharhoud Launch Pad where in Dec 13 the gantry was moved west from its central position. It still does not indicate an imminent launch.
Dec 30, 2020·
http://web.archive.org/web/20210103055827/https://twitter.com/FlashdotNews/status/1344149612446187521
https://archive.is/CpwCw​

Space satellite imagery on 13th December 2020 shows that the gantry was moved west from its central position from the Launch Pad.

It still does not indicate an imminent launch. But expect something by February! Zoljanah SLV perhaps?

 

[Galactic Penguin SST]

Peed, I find it hard to believe that the little, isolated country with little natural resorces and a prisoner population is able to make anything on their own, especially all these missiles and their components.

How much of these claims do you think are real, and how much bullcrap?

I cant believe a nation that can bearly feed itsef, very isolated, no exprts, no natural resources is able to not only make surface to surface missiles, but also now the s-300 SAM and Iskaneder clone?!!

I have followed Iran´s developmnt for nearly 30 years, and know exactly how difficult these devlopments are. And lets not forget that Iran is 20 times the size of N korea, with much larger population, huge ammount of natural resources and access to the wider global community.

Again compare with this North Korean ~35 meters diameter radio antenna (38.975776°N, 125.845287°E) that could easily be used to track a lunar orbiter!

For reference, the 35 meter diameter one being built in South Korea for suporting its lunar exploration program!

https://archive.vn/L6tNu/1704aabe6d42f39f4f4357620b1b46797aff9ecc.jpg ; https://archive.vn/L6tNu/938923d6f291bb707e077bc99cb146c5df12f438/scr.png ; http://web.archive.org/web/20201230200906/https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eqf88UKU0AEW8nc?format=jpg&name=large ; https://twitter.com/ISNJH/status/1344321149853790209
▲ 1. ~35 meters diameter satellite dish in DPRK 38.975776° 125.845287°

And this while Iran's largest ground satellite dish (unless proven otherwise who knows), the latest IRGC satellite ground control station located at 29°34'30.18"N, 52°22'12.28"E near Shiraz, only fields half the size, 15 meters diameter radio dish (meaning it captures four times less radio signal intensity)!

https://archive.vn/YTHIX/ef02e68138922baa0b57aef5c0e0057c3ab5efef.jpg ; https://archive.vn/YTHIX/23ecce11b92c9e0348eba6a3c82da67eea966e90/scr.png ; http://web.archive.org/web/20210105004503/https://i.imgur.com/vmBCQHU.jpg ; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AuucVPMxpM ; https://twitter.com/fab_hinz/status/1346063657436930048
▲ 1. Shiraz IRGC satellite ground control station at 29°34'30.18"N, 52°22'12.28"E, with 15 meter diameter satellite dish.

SOHEIL posted on May 20, 2012:

Lunar program

Iran has plans to land an astronaut on the moon by 2019.

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/iranian-space-agency.181039/

As of January 2021, Iran is not ready to send a lunar orbiter, unlike North Korea!

 

[Galactic Penguin SST]

Peed, I find it hard to believe that the little, isolated country with little natural resorces and a prisoner population is able to make anything on their own, especially all these missiles and their components.

How much of these claims do you think are real, and how much bullcrap?

I cant believe a nation that can bearly feed itsef, very isolated, no exprts, no natural resources is able to not only make surface to surface missiles, but also now the s-300 SAM and Iskaneder clone?!!

I have followed Iran´s developmnt for nearly 30 years, and know exactly how difficult these devlopments are. And lets not forget that Iran is 20 times the size of N korea, with much larger population, huge ammount of natural resources and access to the wider global community.

Leading by a large margin.

And this will be the future of Iran: North Korean scientists have been conducting research on hypersonic missiles since 2017.

For this end, a new Hypersonic Rocket Research Center under the Academy of National Defense Science has even been opened on Sunday.

Naval Lasers will also be developed!

North Korea forms new research center focused on “hypersonic missiles”

The center has been ordered to conduct “full-fledged development of hypersonic guided missiles and shipboard laser weapons,” a source told Daily NK

By Jeong Tae Joo - 2021.01.06 2:41pm

As part of the country’s efforts to develop cutting-edge weapons, North Korea has recently opened a new research center under the Academy of National Defense Science to study hypersonic missiles, Daily NK has learned.

Able to travel at over Mach 5, hypersonic missiles are a next-generation weapon that can theoretically hit any place on the planet within three hours.

Unlike conventional ballistic missiles, hypersonic missiles do not follow a simple ballistic trajectory. Accordingly, military experts count them among the major weapons that will change the face of future warfare.

From North Korea’s perspective, hypersonic missiles could be the “magic sword” that brings down America’s Terminal High Altitude Area Defense (THAAD)-led “invincible shield” because they cannot be intercepted by existing missile defense systems.

“There were rumors going around [about the new center] within the Academy of National Defense Science from the middle of last year, and an order issued on Sunday led to the creation of the Hypersonic Rocket Research Center,” a source in the North Korean military told Daily NK yesterday. “The center is considered so important that the Central Committee made it the first project to be implemented in the new year.”

The source further noted that “it is also very significant that the center was established around the time of the Eighth Party Congress of the Workers’ Party of Korea” and that the founding of the center marks a significant step forward in the history of North Korea’s “defense sciences.”

North Korea has long placed an emphasis on “new strategic weapons,” and the creation of the new center suggests that the development and deployment of hypersonic missiles will become a “major national task” going forward. The center’s establishment also suggests North Korea is strengthening its military power to promote internal solidarity, even as it prepares for negotiations with the US and other nations.

“Internally, people are saying that since the nukes are completed, lots of Workers’ Party money will go into hypersonic rockets,” said the source. “The general view is that they will pour all their resources into preparing for the distant future.”

Based on the source’s report, North Korean authorities believe hypersonic missiles, with their high speed, ability to fly at low altitudes – and even to perform evasive maneuvers – could prove a “game changer” that will “shake up” the world’s military and security order by replacing nuclear weapons, which are unlikely to be used in real combat.

According to the source, North Korean authorities have been conducting basic research on hypersonic missiles since the successful test launch of the Hwasong-15 ICBM in 2017. This means they have been preparing to establish the research center for three years.

The center reportedly has four departments and seven labs with a staff of about 300. General preparations to start the center’s operations have been completed: a commuter bus line was created upon the center’s establishment, and the Ministry of Social Security has put in place a “security network” to guard the center’s premises.

As its first set of “tasks” for 2021, the center has been ordered to conduct “full-fledged development of hypersonic guided missiles and shipboard laser weapons,” the source said.

https://www.dailynk.com/english/north-korea-forms-new-research-center-focused-on-hypersonic-missiles/
https://archive.is/p47mU​

 

[Galactic Penguin SST]

The technological gap between the two nations is revealed to be even wider!

Pyongyang, January 9 (KCNA) -- A report was made on the work of the 7th Central Committee of the Party from Jan. 5 to Jan. 7, Juche 110 (2021) at the 8th Congress of the Workers' Party of Korea (WPK), an important political event in the development of our Party and revolution.

North Korea's hypersonic glide vehicle (HGV) missiles

The report also noted that scientific research .. finished the research into development of warheads of different combat missions including the hypersonic gliding flight warheads for new type ballistic rockets and is making preparations for their test and production.

North Korea's MIRVs missiles

The report also noted that in the period under review the field of national defense scientific research has conducted the research for perfecting the guidance technology for multi-warhead rocket at the final stage,

North Korea's nuclear attack submarines

It was made public with pride..that the study of the designing of new nuclear-powered submarine was in the stage of final examination after its completion

North Korea's military reconnaissance satellites

the designing of diverse .. means of reconnaissance and detection and military reconnaissance satellite were completed,


https://en.yna.co.kr/view/AEN20210109000452325?section=nk/nk
https://twitter.com/nktpnd/status/1347672551053524994​

 

[Philosopher]

The technological gap between the two nations is revealed to be even wider!

Pyongyang, January 9 (KCNA) -- A report was made on the work of the 7th Central Committee of the Party from Jan. 5 to Jan. 7, Juche 110 (2021) at the 8th Congress of the Workers' Party of Korea (WPK), an important political event in the development of our Party and revolution.​

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North Korea's hypersonic glide vehicle (HGV) missiles​

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The report also noted that scientific research .. finished the research into development of warheads of different combat missions including the hypersonic gliding flight warheads for new type ballistic rockets and is making preparations for their test and production.​

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North Korea's MIRVs missiles​

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The report also noted that in the period under review the field of national defense scientific research has conducted the research for perfecting the guidance technology for multi-warhead rocket at the final stage, ​

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North Korea's nuclear attack submarines​

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It was made public with pride..that the study of the designing of new nuclear-powered submarine was in the stage of final examination after its completion ​

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North Korea's military reconnaissance satellites​

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the designing of diverse .. means of reconnaissance and detection and military reconnaissance satellite were completed, ​

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Kindly stop polluting this section with these drivels. North Korea can barely feed its own population and you're trying to compare it to Iran? Perhaps in the 80's North Korean has some technologies ahead of Iran but today, even Iranian universities are creating more advance technology than the N.Koreans.

North Korea, assuming most of its claims are even real are certainly importing most of these technologies from abroad. This notion that a country with a GDP of £28 billion has the resources to create Nuclear submarines, hypersonic system etc is something that even a semi-developed mind would find ludicrous.