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But don’t worry the apologists of this board will say the whole attack wasn’t a big deal.
no one has said this attack was not big deal .
all i said and people who are aware of reality are say this ASSASSINATION has Zero effect on Iran IRI covert nuclear program and development and upgrade warhead are going on as we speak
 
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Pakistan's nuclear weapons are meant to balance India.A strong India is not in everyone's interest.Pakistan is one of the few countries in the world with military support from China, THE United States and Russia.Developing nuclear weapons requires international political support, and Iran's status as an independent regional power is a strength, but also a weakness.Nobody supports Iran getting a nuclear weapon.It's not just Israel, it's Saudi Arabia, it's Iraq.

North Korea's nuclear weapons are also based on a dangerous balance of international politics.America needs to threaten South Korea and Japan with North Korea to keep its troops there.China needs North Korea as a military buffer on the Korean peninsula, and north Korea's military is not strong enough to withstand South Korea and the United States.Neither China nor America likes North Korea's nuclear weapons, but they are not staunchly opposed to them. North Korea is a master of international politics, using geopolitical niches to gain limited nuclear power, then decisively renouncing nuclear weapons and winning the goodwill of international opinion.

What Iran really needs is to secure international political support, not to forcefully pursue nuclear weapons in such a situation.Otherwise, you will only isolate yourself.

If thats the case, who supported France in getting nuclear weapons?

You build them if you know how and if you don't care what others think.

Iran simply need such weapons in order to stop others threatening it with genocide and nuclear annihilation. Even forumers on this forum have threatened iran with genocide and a nuke strike. Or predicted such an outcome is likely if iran does this or that.

So iran needs to be able to annihilate some counties in its region in case it is attacked. at the very least these weapons need to be able to establish a balance which ensures peace occurs.

So iran needs in my humble estimate 3,000-4,000 nukes and some delivery vehicles. and the nukes need a name like "peacemaker" (as the americans call their nuclear warheads. So whats the word peace in Iran? Salam maybe? the "salam nuclear warhead", designed to achieve regional and global peace. and a "missiles of peace program", to ensure the peace is lasting.

This would also prompt turkey to achieve its own nuclear ambitions because they too are threatened by several large nuclear powers indirectly. Including a future nuclear armed iran.

But none of this is likely to happen because Iran considers nukes hara, and not very useful. We can see nukes did not help america achieve anything? or did they?
 
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By the way to the Iranian brothers, was there any bodyguard attachment to him?

Yes. He was traveling with an armed convey. The Iranians claimed to have killed the gunmen but it has now emerged that the whole thing was done with a remote controlled machine gun and a Nissan sedan that self-detonated. The owner of the Nissan sedan left Iran on October 29th. Read this twitter thread for more context


 
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If thats the case, who supported France in getting nuclear weapons?

You build them if you know how and if you don't care what others think.

Iran simply need such weapons in order to stop others threatening it with genocide and nuclear annihilation. Even forumers on this forum have threatened iran with genocide and a nuke strike. Or predicted such an outcome is likely if iran does this or that.

So iran needs to be able to annihilate some counties in its region in case it is attacked. at the very least these weapons need to be able to establish a balance which ensures peace occurs.

So iran needs in my humble estimate 3,000-4,000 nukes and some delivery vehicles. and the nukes need a name like "peacemaker" (as the americans call their nuclear warheads. So whats the word peace in Iran? Salam maybe? the "salam nuclear warhead", designed to achieve regional and global peace. and a "missiles of peace program", to ensure the peace is lasting.

This would also prompt turkey to achieve its own nuclear ambitions because they too are threatened by several large nuclear powers indirectly. Including a future nuclear armed iran.

But none of this is likely to happen because Iran considers nukes hara, and not very useful. We can see nukes did not help america achieve anything? or did they?
This is inherently an unfair world. I'm not talking about ideas, but about reality.France is an important member of NATO, the core force in Europe to resist the Soviet Union, and a permanent member of the United Nations. No one can stop France.

This is the reality of the world. If Iran is now trying to acquire nuclear weapons, it will be an evil country and a destroyer of regional stability. If Iran has acquired 1,000 nuclear weapons, then Iran is an important force for maintaining international peace and a basic force for world stability.
 
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Why would an under-construction building blow up completely? An under-construction building won't have anything to blow up with.
Obviously, it wasn't the building that exploded, but it was the bomb(s) inside it that exploded. Even an 8 year old kid would not say such a stupid thing. lol The building was supposed to be part of the ICAC for expanding its capacity of assembling newer generations of centrifuges (particularly IR-2, IR-2M and IR-6).

The truth is it was a centrifuge assembly facility, a massive explosion happened there, blowing up pretty much the whole site, damaging nearby buildings. Embarassing for Iran, and that's in addition to other sites, like missile construction facilities that blew up.
If you knew what an "assembly" facility meant, you wouldn't expect it to "blow up". Even spinning centrifuges don't "blow up". They can crash, but they don't "blow up" like explosives. It's funny that you're ignoring the word "new" in the photos you posted. That pretty much proves my point, leaving no reason to discuss it as it has been established that it was a new building that was under construction.
 
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This is inherently an unfair world. I'm not talking about ideas, but about reality.France is an important member of NATO, the core force in Europe to resist the Soviet Union, and a permanent member of the United Nations. No one can stop France.

This is the reality of the world. If Iran is now trying to acquire nuclear weapons, it will be an evil country and a destroyer of regional stability. If Iran has acquired 1,000 nuclear weapons, then Iran is an important force for maintaining international peace and a basic force for world stability.

Thats exactly right. And also lets not forget what france was before it built nukes? It was a country that was conquered by germany in 6 weeks.

Had it not built nukes it would now be a important as mexico. The problem is, to get that elevated status you need to pay the price to join the club. Iran isn't willing to do it. It probably doesnt have the knowledge to do it.
 
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Obviously, it wasn't the building that exploded, but it was the bomb(s) inside it that exploded. Even an 8 year old kid would not say such a stupid thing. lol The building was supposed to be part of the ICAC for expanding its capacity of assembling newer generations of centrifuges (particularly IR-2, IR-2M and IR-6).


If you knew what an "assembly" facility meant, you wouldn't expect it to "blow up". Even spinning centrifuges don't "blow up". They can crash, but they don't "blow up" like explosives. It's funny that you're ignoring the word "new" in the photos you posted. That pretty much proves my point, leaving no reason to discuss it as it has been established that it was a new building that was under construction.
No, it was a gas explosion. At best a small bomb was used to create a secondary, larger explosion.

I never claimed the centrifuges blew up. It is unknown if the site was hacked like the rest of the facilities that blew up in Iran at that time, or if it was sabotaged from within, or both.

The word new doesn't suggest the building is still under construction, and even if it is, it doesn't make it any better for Iran.
 
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Pro-war? This has been the most isolationist government out there.
Biden and his administration would intervene in so many conflicts, have you heard his comments about Serbia, a country far more innocent than Iran, that also poses much less threat to American assets?
What?
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No, it was a gas explosion. At best a small bomb was used to create a secondary, larger explosion.

I never claimed the centrifuges blew up. It is unknown if the site was hacked like the rest of the facilities that blew up in Iran at that time, or if it was sabotaged from within, or both.

The word new doesn't suggest the building is still under construction, and even if it is, it doesn't make it any better for Iran.
Beny--the best laugh is the last laugh

Regarding Israeli acts of sabotage.....

Don't be surprised if some Israeli embassy somewhere in Argentine suddenly gets blown to pieces in the near future
 
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Beny--the best laugh is the last laugh

Regarding Israeli acts of sabotage.....

Don't be surprised if some Israeli embassy somewhere in Argentine suddenly gets blown to pieces in the near future

Attacking diplomats is never the answer and looks bad in the court of public opinion.

Iran should stick to military targets and intelligence (Mossad) operatives.
 
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Looks like the Biden administration will "dwell/duel" with Iran for the next 4 years....
 
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Why would an under-construction building blow up completely? An under-construction building won't have anything to blow up with.

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The truth is it was a centrifuge assembly facility, a massive explosion happened there, blowing up pretty much the whole site, damaging nearby buildings. Embarassing for Iran, and that's in addition to other sites, like missile construction facilities that blew up.
And Explosion in an empty ship!
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decomissioned for good.

4 billion dollars the cost of replacement.
 
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No, it was a gas explosion. At best a small bomb was used to create a secondary, larger explosion.

I never claimed the centrifuges blew up. It is unknown if the site was hacked like the rest of the facilities that blew up in Iran at that time, or if it was sabotaged from within, or both.

The word new doesn't suggest the building is still under construction, and even if it is, it doesn't make it any better for Iran.
How could you hack into a warehouse or an assembly line to make it explode like that? Did you hack into bricks, cement or air?

What gas? Even if we assume those centrifuges were spinning to enrich uranium (which is quite unlikely because even if we believe you that it was an operating facility, it was still an assembly facility, not an enrichment one) UF6 is not an inflammable gas. It was probably a sabotage operation with bombs planted inside the building. In that scenario, even an empty building under construction can be blown up.

And Explosion in an empty ship!
1210040_973.jpg


decomissioned for good.

4 trillion dollars the cost of replacement.
I think you meant 4 billion dollars.
 
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How could you hack into a warehouse or an assembly line to make it explode like that? Did you hack into bricks, cement or air?

What gas? Even if we assume those centrifuges were spinning to enrich uranium (which is quite unlikely because even if we believe you that it was an operating facility, it was still an assembly facility, not an enrichment one) UF6 is not an inflammable gas. It was probably a sabotage operation with bombs planted inside the building. In that scenario, even an empty building under construction can be blown up.


I think you meant 4 billion dollars.
My bad
 
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