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[AmirPatriot]

Shiraz Frigate can bee seen in the back ground:

The one with the blue line pointing at it is, as you said, Shiraz. The one with the red line looks to me to be Sahand.

What's interesting is that Shiraz seems to be having a radar blocking structure on the mast, like modern stealthy warships.

 

[yavar]

China naval group to berth at Iran port

A Chinese naval group is to berth in southern Iran as Tehran and Beijing maintain their determination to enhance naval cooperation, the Iranian Navy has announced.

The Chinese Navy flotilla comprises two battle cruisers, a support vessel, and a helicopter, the Iranian Navy’s Public Relations Department said.

It said the group, which has just been to the Pakistani port of Karachi for training purposes, will be docking at the Iranian port of Bandar Abbas on Thursday.

A high-ranking naval delegation from China visited Iran for talks in October 2015.

Iranian Navy Commander Rear Admiral Habibollah Sayyari (R) and the deputy chief of the People’s Liberation Army of China General Staff Department, Admiral Sun Jianguo, are seen in the Iranian capital, Tehran, on October 14, 2015.

A Chinese Navy flotilla also arrived in the southern Iranian coast three years ago.

Subsequently, Iran’s Navy Commander Rear Admiral Habibollah Sayyari visited China’s eastern port city of Qingdao with a high-ranking team in attendance and held talks with Chinese military officials.

The Iranian Navy dispatched a naval group to China back in 2012, setting a new precedence in the countries’ bilateral naval cooperation.

http://presstv.ir/Detail/2017/06/14/525257/Iran-China-naval-cooperation-Bandar-Abbas

 

[sahureka2]

Shiraz Frigate can bee seen in the back ground:

 

[Arminkh]

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The one with the blue line pointing at it is, as you said, Shiraz. The one with the red line looks to me to be Sahand.

What's interesting is that Shiraz seems to be having a radar blocking structure on the mast, like modern stealthy warships.

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Thanks God they finally decided to get rid of the old radar structure. It was about time.

Shiraz will have a very unique look when it is finished. Hopefully they change the Fajr main gun cladding to stealthy as well.

 

[sahureka2]

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[Iranm]

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any satellite images?

 

[AmirPatriot]

any satellite images?

Satellite pics don't reveal much, just a top down view. In any case these images are very recent and useful.

 

[sobhan]

i hope they use vertical launch air defence missiles in it

 

[Iranm]

i hope they use vertical launch air defence missiles in it

That's the reason why I asked for satellite image. I thought maybe we can see something.

 

[Fafnir]

i hope they use vertical launch air defence missiles in it

They would first have to actually develop either a naval sam system or a navalised version of a land based sam system or at least some of its component parts and lastly they would also have to design an actual vls of some sort ie hot or cold launch system,so all in all not an easy or simple thing to do,in addition when you look at the very conservative redesigns of irans larger blue water vessels,well it really doesnt fill one with all that much confidence,altho there is the 6000 tonne kalij fars hull which would be a good starting point for a modern destroyer provided there was the money and the resources oh and of course the will on the part of the navy and government to actually do so.

 

[AmirPatriot]

They would first have to actually develop either a naval sam system or a navalised version of a land based sam system or at least some of its component parts and lastly they would also have to design an actual vls of some sort ie hot or cold launch system,so all in all not an easy or simple thing to do,in addition when you look at the very conservative redesigns of irans larger blue water vessels,well it really doesnt fill one with all that much confidence,altho there is the 6000 tonne kalij fars hull which would be a good starting point for a modern destroyer provided there was the money and the resources oh and of course the will on the part of the navy and government to actually do so.

Well Iran does have VLS technology. Bavar-373 is VLS and the Talash missiles (Sayyad-2) could probably be fired in a VLS configuration with little modification. After all, Sayyad-2 is developed from the naval SM-1, which itself was developed into the SM-2/3/6 VLS missiles. And naval missiles are not so different from land based missiles.

I think the problem is the actual ships. Iranian naval designers are conservative and may be adverse to severe design changes to the original Alvand class design that would be necessary to fit a VLS system into the Alvand's small hull, which itself was never designed with VLS in mind.

@Iranm latest Google Earth imagery shows no sign of VLS on either Sahand (right) or Shiraz (left), nor of any space in the hull to accommodate it.

Nor does TerraServer, though it does reveal a new Mowj class hull under construction.

 

[Kiarash]

off topic: guys what happened to military.ir ?

 

[Evin]

off topic: guys what happened to military.ir ?

yeah.thats my question too bro

 

[VEVAK]

Well Iran does have VLS technology. Bavar-373 is VLS and the Talash missiles (Sayyad-2) could probably be fired in a VLS configuration with little modification. After all, Sayyad-2 is developed from the naval SM-1, which itself was developed into the SM-2/3/6 VLS missiles. And naval missiles are not so different from land based missiles.

I think the problem is the actual ships. Iranian naval designers are conservative and may be adverse to severe design changes to the original Alvand class design that would be necessary to fit a VLS system into the Alvand's small hull, which itself was never designed with VLS in mind.

@Iranm latest Google Earth imagery shows no sign of VLS on either Sahand (right) or Shiraz (left), nor of any space in the hull to accommodate it.

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Nor does TerraServer, though it does reveal a new Mowj class hull under construction.

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I think Iran should 1st be concerned with mass producing and stocking Land Attack Cruise Missiles in large numbers...
Iran should have a minimum reserve stockpile of 40,000 cruise missiles with a range of at least 1,500km or more spread across 400 bases & storage facilities and once you make Iran's response to any attack to massive to comprehend then you move on to building larger ships with VLS

 

[AmirPatriot]

I think Iran should 1st be concerned with mass producing and stocking Land Attack Cruise Missiles in large numbers...
Iran should have a minimum reserve stockpile of 40,000 cruise missiles with a range of at least 1,500km or more spread across 400 bases & storage facilities and once you make Iran's response to any attack to massive to comprehend then you move on to building larger ships with VLS

Good luck maintaining, building, stockpiling, fuelling, storing, and manning 40,000 LACMs, while at the same time having a functioning military.

Even 1500 tons is not too small to have VLS, just look at Israeli Sa'ar 5.