Iranian Missiles | News and Discussions

[albator]

Dear noob: Yes, very clever remark. You've made your point. Can we move on now and get down to business?

DEAR NOOD IN CHIEF.... thanks and yes we can move on ....

 

[Bratva]

What's point of retiring? keep churning water down versions and use them as decoys to overwhelm ABM defenses of adversaries.

 

[rahi2357]

what ??? it's just less than one month that they added some more Shahab III and Qiam missiles into service . I don't think that they gonna retire all of these missiles , but it means that new systems are on the way. or maybe he means that the first Shahab series (back in 1997 ) are going out of service.

 

[fafarkhan]

It with nothing important some more obsolete stuff

hope its more ghiam style ....new navigation system , less taler

 

[rmi5]

what ??? it's just less than one month that they added some more Shahab III and Qiam missiles into service . I don't think that they gonna retire all of these missiles , but it means that new systems are on the way. or maybe he means that the first Shahab series (back in 1997 ) are going out of service.

It means that they are going to discontinue production of the announced missiles, and produce their new versions. I guess it does not mean that these missiles are gonna be retired or scrapped.

 

[rahi2357]

It means that they are going to discontinue production of the announced missiles, and produce their new versions. I guess it does not mean that these missiles are gonna be retired or scrapped.

Agreed however I think these missiles don't have a service time of more than 8 years...even without fuel. solid rockets are the best choice. they have a really simple design but obtaining the fuel + making a reliable thrust vectoring system is extremely hard . I heard that Iran had some problems with sejjil's fuel (after some 2012 sanctions) .I still think using +500 km range BMs without nuclear warheads is not worthy. just some low accuracy artillery s . The real deterrence can be 10 road mobile solid fueled MRBM / IRBM / ICBM... missiles + 3 nuclear warheads each

 

[rmi5]

Agreed however I think these missiles don't have a service time of more than 8 years...even without fuel. solid rockets are the best choice. they have a really simple design but obtaining the fuel + making a reliable thrust vectoring system is extremely hard . I heard that Iran had some problems with sejjil's fuel (after some 2012 sanctions) .I still think using +500 km range BMs without nuclear warheads is not worthy. just some low accuracy artillery s . The real deterrence can be 10 road mobile solid fueled MRBM / IRBM / ICBM... missiles + 3 nuclear warheads each

It depends on what do you expect from ballistic missiles. Ballistic missiles are mostly(not always) for putting pressure on your enemy's public, and not necessarily for targeting something with a good accuracy. In such cases, except for some early scuds that had accuracy of 5-10 km and sometimes could not even target a city , other ballistic missiles does the intended job very well. Nuke warheads are in another higher level of deterrence Although if a country has KH-55 for that mission, then they can deliver nukes for a larger range than what you mentioned

 

[yavar]

It means that they are going to discontinue production of the announced missiles,

منسوخ و از رده خارج می شود

stop making things up . the word they used was out service obsolete NOT discontinue making them .

i know you don't like it but you can't BS use

 

[yavar]

افتتاح خط تولید انبوه موشک ۳۰۰ کیلومتری کروز «قدیر» و تحویل آن به نیروی دریایی سپاه

با حضور وزیر دفاع و پشتیبانی نیروهای مسلح و فرمانده نیروی دریایی سپاه، خط تولید انبوه موشک کروز دریایی ضد ناو برد بلند در وزارت دفاع افتتاح و مقادیر معتنابهی از آن به نیروی دریایی سپاه پاسداران انقلاب اسلامی تحویل شد.
ه نقل از اداره کل تبلیغات دفاعی وزارت دفاع، خط تولید انبوه موشک کروز دریایی ضد ناو برد بلند در سازمان صنایع هوافضای وزارت دفاع با حضور سردار حسین دهقان و سردار علی فدوی فرمانده نیروی دریایی سپاه افتتاح و مقادیر معتنابهی از آن به نیروی دریایی سپاه پاسداران انقلاب اسلامی تحویل شد.
سردار دهقان در جمع خبرنگاران طی سخنانی با گرامیداشت روز شهید اظهار داشت: پس از اتمام تحقیقات، نمونه سازی، انجام آزمایشات موفق پروازی و رونمایی از موشک کروز دریایی قدیر به مناسبت روز صنعت دفاعی سال جاری که با حضور ریاست محترم جمهور انجام شد، امروز بحول و قوه الهی شاهد افتتاح همزمان خط تولید انبوه و تحویل دهی این موشک راهبردی و موثر در عرصه دفاع و رزم دریایی هستیم.
وزیر دفاع، آماده سازی و واکنش سریع، ارتفاع پروازی پایین، دقت بالای ناوبری، اصابت دقیق به اهداف، قدرت تخریب زیاد، ضد جنگ الکترونیک بالا به واسطه مجهز بودن به رادارهای پیشرفته و قابلیت پرتاب از روی انواع شناور و بالگرد که بر افزایش برد آن نیز تأثیر بسزایی دارد را از ویژگی های این سامانه موشکی
بر شمرد
دهقان با بیان اینکه امروز وزارت دفاع با تولید کاملاً بومی انواع موشک با کاربردهای متنوع در منطقه حرف اول را می زند، تصریح کرد: دقت و سرعت عمل و کیفیت بالای این محصولات مهم توان رزم نیروهای مسلح در هوا، دریا و زمین به نحو چشمگیری افزایش داده است.
وزیر دفاع با اشاره به فرامین مقام معظم فرماندهی کل قوا و راهبرد دولت یازدهم در تقویت توان رزم نیروهای مسلح به ویژه در حوزه موشکی، تأکید کرد: وزارت دفاع در دو ساله گذشته بر افزایش برد، افزایش تحرک و تاکتیکی شدن موشک ها تمرکز داشته به طوری که در تصاویر مستند پرتاب و اصابت به هدف این موشک مشاهده می کنید ، موشک قدیر از فاصله 300 کیلومتری از ساحل موفق شده تا هدف دریایی خود را به دقت شناسایی و مورد اصابت قرار داده و آن را به طورکامل منهدم کند
دهقان با قدردانی از تلاش دانشمندان، نخبگان و متخصصان سازمان صنایع هوافضای وزارت دفاع و دیگر سازمان های این وزارتخانه که در طراحی، ساخت و تولید انبوه این موشک مشارکت داشته‌اند، اعلام کرد: موشک های جدید ساخت وزارت دفاع با قابلیت های بسیار پیشرفته تر انشاءالله در سال آینده تحویل نیروهای مسلح خواهد شد.

با حضور سرداران دهقان و فدوی صورت گرفت افتتاح خط تولید انبوه موشک ۳۰۰ کیلومتری کروز «قدیر» و تحویل آن به نیروی دریایی سپاه​

 

[SOHEIL]

stop making things up . the word they used was out service obsolete NOT discontinue making them .

i know you don't like it but you can't BS use

What about brand new ghiam missiles !?

 

[MTN1917]

stop making things up . the word they used was out service obsolete NOT discontinue making them .

i know you don't like it but you can't BS use

I don't think that they are going to retire these missiles, what general Hajizade meant was probably that these missiles are no longer Iran's newest designs and that a new generations of more advanced missiles will take their place but I don't think we are going to retire them immediately because IRGC ASF just took delivery of a massive number of Qadr and Qiam ballistic missiles last week.

 

[yavar]

I don't think that they are going to retire these missiles, what general Hajizade meant was probably that these missiles are no longer Iran's newest designs and that a new generations of more advanced missiles will take their place but I don't think we are going to retire them immediately because IRGC ASF just took delivery of a massive number of Qadr and Qiam ballistic missiles last week.

I disagree brother . the missile will be only used for training and quantity

 

[MTN1917]

I disagree brother . the missile will be only used for training and quantity

Maybe they won't be the frontline missile which will hit the most important targets but they are definitely going to be used in massive numbers in case of war.

As you said, quantity itself means that they are going to be operational and not scrapped.

 

[SOHEIL]

I don't think that they are going to retire these missiles, what general Hajizade meant was probably that these missiles are no longer Iran's newest designs and that a new generations of more advanced missiles will take their place but I don't think we are going to retire them immediately because IRGC ASF just took delivery of a massive number of Qadr and Qiam ballistic missiles last week.

Maybe export them to syria & lebanon !

 

[yavar]

As you said, quantity i.

it means whenever there is TV reporters are present they will bring these obsolete and show case them .
and ni case of war if we run out the main ones they start using them but that possible we alot of ................

and some of them they will be scraped .my point view .