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[skyshadow]

I think fitting it with wing pylons would be an easier answer.

Now that I look at it it kind of reminds me of an upside down Storm Shadow.

it really dose

 

[hussainb72]

I think fitting it with wing pylons would be an easier answer.

Well that can be done as well, but the C-130 might not be the best in this role, and I guess that the best platforms for launching the missile are either the F-4 or the su-24 as they can fly at high speeds and lunch them at high altitudes, and they can be mounted on the pylons, but the number they might be able to carry might be less than the C-130.

Edit: thinking about it more, I think that the F-14 can be a good option as well, as it can carry a huge number of bombs between the fuselage, but it will require a modification to the bomb racks the F-14 has.

 

[Sineva]

Heres one that gave me a good chuckle for obvious reasons

#####WARNING ZIONIST SOURCE#####

Opinion
How Israel Can Deter Iran

An all-out Iran offensive against Israel can be neutralized using a simple declaration of just one sentence

Hezbollah is said to have 130,000 rockets that could reach all of Israel, with Hamas possessing thousands of rockets that could cover southern and central Israel, including the Tel Aviv area. It is also said that, if war broke out, Israel could find itself fighting on two fronts, possibly even a third, the Golan Heights, where it would face an Iranian force made up of Revolutionary Guards and militias under Tehran’s control.

And in the next war, thousands of rockets would land on Israeli population centers, and on strategic assets including the Haifa Bay industrial complex, power stations on the Mediterranean coast, ammonia tanks and airports and who knows what else, not to mention military bases, including air bases. Such a barrage could seriously disrupt air force operations and possibly also the mobilization assembly points and armored columns, which at that point should be racing toward Beirut, the Syrian section of the Golan Heights and Gaza.

Israel’s anti-rocket capabilities, which include many Iron Dome batteries and a large supply of Arrow missiles, wouldn’t provide sufficient defense for the country’s cities and factories against such an onslaught. All this would happen on Iran’s orders, the moment Tehran decided that the conditions were right, perhaps in the not-so-distant future in a regional conflict or something that relates more directly to Israel and its efforts to prevent the spread of Iranian power around us.

The Israeli media says little about the chaos that would ensue for weeks or even months, even if the country’s road, train, electricity, water, sewage and natural gas infrastructure continued to function at some basic level, and even if the army pressed all the way to Beirut and Gaza’s cities and somehow routed Hezbollah and Hamas after fighting that exacted a heavy casualty toll and wreaked massive destruction.

But there may be a way to avert this scenario with one simple and blunt statement. The Israeli government should declare tomorrow, immediately, publicly and unequivocally, that if Iran’s proxies forced Israel into an all-out war, for any reason, with a massive rocket barrage, Israel would respond immediately and forcefully against Tehran, Isfahan, Shiraz, Bushehr, Natanz, Qom and Iran’s other population centers and strategic targets.


Iran would know that such a clear and powerful public statement would compel every Israeli government – regardless of who’s prime minister – to act on it (lest Israel be seen as a paper tiger and lose all its deterrent capability). Also, Iran would understand that it would pay dearly for an assault on Israel by its proxies. The fear of such a massive Israeli reprisal – hundreds of missiles and bombs on Iran’s cities and strategic assets for weeks – would make Iran’s leaders think very carefully about whether they should dispatch Hezbollah and Hamas and their proxies in Syria on any adventures.
So far, Iran has enjoyed immunity from attacks on its soil, with Israeli governments opting to respond to rockets from Lebanon and Gaza with (limited) strikes against targets in Lebanon, Gaza and Syria. This was a mistake that left Israel under a constant threat in the north and south, and led to a balance of deterrence – a balance that Tehran could nullify whenever it chose.

A clear and public announcement by Israel would probably deter Tehran from embarking on such an adventure. Critics would say: In response to an Israeli counterattack on Iran, Tehran would launch missiles on Israeli and possibly American targets in the Gulf – and in Iraq and Syria too. Maybe, but Israel’s ability to strike Iran is much greater than Iran’s ability to strike Israel, and that’s without considering Israel’s nonconventional capabilities. Israel’s anti-ballistic capabilities would probably neutralize the bulk of the missiles from Iran (which has a limited capability at the necessary range).


Nor does Iran have an air force that could come near Israel in any significant way. The regime of the ayatollahs, whose headquarters, factories and military would be bombed, would probably not be able to withstand such a contest for long, especially considering the regime’s unpopularity with everyday Iranians, which would certainly grow if the country’s major cities and factories were assaulted. And in such a conflict, there is no reason to believe that Tehran would wish to add the United States as an active combatant against it.

Thus, I believe that, using a simple declaration of just one sentence, the specter of an all-out offensive against Israel by Iran’s proxies and emissaries can be neutralized.

Would Hezbollah and Hamas launch their rocket arsenal at Israel without an order or approval from Tehran and against its will? This is hard to believe, as they need Tehran’s political, financial and military support, and as well fear that Israel would destroy neighborhoods in Gaza and Lebanon. In any event, Israel must act as if the signal for an attack on it would be given by Tehran, and Tehran must understand that this is how Israel would act. This would certainly prod Iran to rein in the neighboring fundamentalist Islamic groups, even should Hezbollah and Hamas think of going to war independently.

Israel should issue its warning to Tehran very loudly and clearly, and the sooner the better. Perhaps this will spare us the terrible war that many analysts predict is approaching.

Prof. Benny Morris, a historian, is the author of a number of books including “The Birth of the Palestinian Refugee Problem, 1947–1949.”

I think that this article illustrates the zionist mindset rather beautifully

 

[Mithridates]

Prof. Benny Morris, a historian

 

[Shams313]

Understands modern warfare...
...indeed a historian..

 

[Arminkh]

Heres one that gave me a good chuckle for obvious reasons

#####WARNING ZIONIST SOURCE#####

Opinion
How Israel Can Deter Iran

An all-out Iran offensive against Israel can be neutralized using a simple declaration of just one sentence

Hezbollah is said to have 130,000 rockets that could reach all of Israel, with Hamas possessing thousands of rockets that could cover southern and central Israel, including the Tel Aviv area. It is also said that, if war broke out, Israel could find itself fighting on two fronts, possibly even a third, the Golan Heights, where it would face an Iranian force made up of Revolutionary Guards and militias under Tehran’s control.

And in the next war, thousands of rockets would land on Israeli population centers, and on strategic assets including the Haifa Bay industrial complex, power stations on the Mediterranean coast, ammonia tanks and airports and who knows what else, not to mention military bases, including air bases. Such a barrage could seriously disrupt air force operations and possibly also the mobilization assembly points and armored columns, which at that point should be racing toward Beirut, the Syrian section of the Golan Heights and Gaza.

Israel’s anti-rocket capabilities, which include many Iron Dome batteries and a large supply of Arrow missiles, wouldn’t provide sufficient defense for the country’s cities and factories against such an onslaught. All this would happen on Iran’s orders, the moment Tehran decided that the conditions were right, perhaps in the not-so-distant future in a regional conflict or something that relates more directly to Israel and its efforts to prevent the spread of Iranian power around us.

The Israeli media says little about the chaos that would ensue for weeks or even months, even if the country’s road, train, electricity, water, sewage and natural gas infrastructure continued to function at some basic level, and even if the army pressed all the way to Beirut and Gaza’s cities and somehow routed Hezbollah and Hamas after fighting that exacted a heavy casualty toll and wreaked massive destruction.

But there may be a way to avert this scenario with one simple and blunt statement. The Israeli government should declare tomorrow, immediately, publicly and unequivocally, that if Iran’s proxies forced Israel into an all-out war, for any reason, with a massive rocket barrage, Israel would respond immediately and forcefully against Tehran, Isfahan, Shiraz, Bushehr, Natanz, Qom and Iran’s other population centers and strategic targets.


Iran would know that such a clear and powerful public statement would compel every Israeli government – regardless of who’s prime minister – to act on it (lest Israel be seen as a paper tiger and lose all its deterrent capability). Also, Iran would understand that it would pay dearly for an assault on Israel by its proxies. The fear of such a massive Israeli reprisal – hundreds of missiles and bombs on Iran’s cities and strategic assets for weeks – would make Iran’s leaders think very carefully about whether they should dispatch Hezbollah and Hamas and their proxies in Syria on any adventures.
So far, Iran has enjoyed immunity from attacks on its soil, with Israeli governments opting to respond to rockets from Lebanon and Gaza with (limited) strikes against targets in Lebanon, Gaza and Syria. This was a mistake that left Israel under a constant threat in the north and south, and led to a balance of deterrence – a balance that Tehran could nullify whenever it chose.

A clear and public announcement by Israel would probably deter Tehran from embarking on such an adventure. Critics would say: In response to an Israeli counterattack on Iran, Tehran would launch missiles on Israeli and possibly American targets in the Gulf – and in Iraq and Syria too. Maybe, but Israel’s ability to strike Iran is much greater than Iran’s ability to strike Israel, and that’s without considering Israel’s nonconventional capabilities. Israel’s anti-ballistic capabilities would probably neutralize the bulk of the missiles from Iran (which has a limited capability at the necessary range).


Nor does Iran have an air force that could come near Israel in any significant way. The regime of the ayatollahs, whose headquarters, factories and military would be bombed, would probably not be able to withstand such a contest for long, especially considering the regime’s unpopularity with everyday Iranians, which would certainly grow if the country’s major cities and factories were assaulted. And in such a conflict, there is no reason to believe that Tehran would wish to add the United States as an active combatant against it.

Thus, I believe that, using a simple declaration of just one sentence, the specter of an all-out offensive against Israel by Iran’s proxies and emissaries can be neutralized.

Would Hezbollah and Hamas launch their rocket arsenal at Israel without an order or approval from Tehran and against its will? This is hard to believe, as they need Tehran’s political, financial and military support, and as well fear that Israel would destroy neighborhoods in Gaza and Lebanon. In any event, Israel must act as if the signal for an attack on it would be given by Tehran, and Tehran must understand that this is how Israel would act. This would certainly prod Iran to rein in the neighboring fundamentalist Islamic groups, even should Hezbollah and Hamas think of going to war independently.

Israel should issue its warning to Tehran very loudly and clearly, and the sooner the better. Perhaps this will spare us the terrible war that many analysts predict is approaching.

Prof. Benny Morris, a historian, is the author of a number of books including “The Birth of the Palestinian Refugee Problem, 1947–1949.”

I think that this article illustrates the zionist mindset rather beautifully

The keyword is "probably" !. Israel anti BM can probably counter Iran's missiles. Ok what if it doesn't? What are you going to do then? Oops! My bad!!!

God knows how many wars has started because of these kinds of uninformed comments and decisions.

 

[Blue In Green]

The keyword is "probably" !. Israel anti BM can probably counter Iran's missiles. Ok what if it doesn't? What are you going to do then? Oops! My bad!!!

God knows how many wars has started because of these kinds of uninformed comments and decisions.

I personally don't get the rationale behind saying that a country has the ability to "stop" another countries missiles. Quite frankly it comes off as if they're saying that Israel, Saudi Arabia, or whatever nation can 100% stop every missile Iran fires or any nation really.....

Like, are we just to accept that one nation can completely mitigate the possible damage an enemy nation can do to them? Are Patriot, Arrow, Davids Sling, THAAD just magical systems?

Idk, just confused....

 

[hussainb72]

The keyword is "probably" !. Israel anti BM can probably counter Iran's missiles. Ok what if it doesn't? What are you going to do then? Oops! My bad!!!

God knows how many wars has started because of these kinds of uninformed comments and decisions.

I would switch probably with cant, as their anti BM systems already failed. Can anyone plz share any links about when iran fired a hormuz anti radiation BM and destroyed the pine tree radar in israel.

 

[Arminkh]

I would switch probably with cant, as their anti BM systems already failed. Can anyone plz share any links about when iran fired a hormuz anti radiation BM and destroyed the pine tree radar in israel.

I hadn't heard about this

 

[hussainb72]

I personally don't get the rationale behind saying that a country has the ability to "stop" another countries missiles. Quite frankly it comes off as if they're saying that Israel, Saudi Arabia, or whatever nation can 100% stop every missile Iran fires or any nation really.....

Like, are we just to accept that one nation can completely mitigate the possible damage an enemy nation can do to them? Are Patriot, Arrow, Davids Sling, THAAD just magical systems?

Idk, just confused....

It's basically impossible to stop every single missile. Iran produces hundreds of missiles each year and upgrades its older missiles constantly, some of these missiles have decoys, others have a hypersonic reentry speed, others act as decoys themselves, these all are a factor that would affect how many missiles can be shot out of the air. And each system has a capacity it can handle, if a system for example can engage 6 targets at a time and has 12 missiles loaded only like the Bavar 373, it can engage up to 6 targets only until it has shot those 6, then it can fire at 6 other targets, assuming that it will be able to shoot down each target with 1 missile, then it has to reload and that takes time.
And israel doesnt really have the much of systems that can shoot down anti BM missiles. The iron dome is just useless as it can only fire at small rockets and artillery shells and apartments if u get what I mean. Then the other systems are combat proven and probably wont have the capability to do anything, and the patriot systems it has have a limited capability and can be over saturated easily. So in conclusion, israel wont be able to defend itself against an iranian missile attack and will be flattened in 7 mins.

I hadn't heard about this

I dont remember when it happened exactly, but when it happened, israel requested that the US would send a patriot system to israel immediately just to act as a back up, and to cover it up, they said that its just a drill to test our reaction time in moving our AD systems, and the system remained there for a while, but idk if they sent it back now or is it still there.

 

[skyshadow]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1169271144844865542

 

[Arminkh]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1169271144844865542

These guys have become paranoid. Next is that they are themselves helping Iran transfer weapons to Yemen!

 

[skyshadow]

These guys have become paranoid. Next is that they are themselves helping Iran transfer weapons to Yemen!

its good that UAE is siding with Iran and seeing there is no end when you start playing games with Iran.

 

[hussainb72]

These guys have become paranoid. Next is that they are themselves helping Iran transfer weapons to Yemen!

I already explained what has happened to them, they cant trust the US anymore and the US wont support them unless they pay the US. So instead of paying lots of money to the US, they just decided to join iran, they will pay less and get full protection against everything.

its good that UAE is siding with Iran and seeing there is no end when you start playing games with Iran.

I wish my country had some brain ti stop playing this game which they cant do anything in except for getting crushed. We are in the worst position if a war starts, we literally have nothing, NOTHING. Everyone will die in less than a week.
Our water source is the sea, food is manufactured from outside and brought for us, our fuel is made outside and brought, everything is imported. And all the workers are foreigner who got citizenship, and more are coming every day. Foreigners make almost 60% of the population, once they leave, even the simplest stuff that we have that might help survive a little longer wont be of any use.

 

[arashkamangir]

I already explained what has happened to them, they cant trust the US anymore and the US wont support them unless they pay the US. So instead of paying lots of money to the US, they just decided to join iran, they will pay less and get full protection against everything.



I wish my country had some brain ti stop playing this game which they cant do anything in except for getting crushed. We are in the worst position if a war starts, we literally have nothing, NOTHING. Everyone will die in less than a week.
Our water source is the sea, food is manufactured from outside and brought for us, our fuel is made outside and brought, everything is imported. And all the workers are foreigner who got citizenship, and more are coming every day. Foreigners make almost 60% of the population, once they leave, even the simplest stuff that we have that might help survive a little longer wont be of any use.

The whole concept of Iran picking fight against its neighbours is ridiculous. Iran already has plenty of resources and plenty of land mass that is more than enough. Look, Iran cannot possibly sell all its resources as these hydrocarbon wealth are becoming rapidly irrelevant. All Iran has ever done has purely been defensive, a response to an ill intended initiative.