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[Dexon]

Khorramshahr_2 ballistic missiles test look at the warhead dive. itttttttttttts greattttttttttttttt

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The warhead shone completely due to its high speed and heat. This is not normal at all!

 

[PeeD]

Now imagine what thermal stress those RV steering fins are exposed to... highest dynamic pressure plus enclosed in plasma

A case of the mastering of a key technology.

 

[Stryker1982]

Khorramshahr_2 ballistic missiles test look at the warhead dive. itttttttttttts greattttttttttttttt

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Very proud of my Iranian friends at successfully mastering R-27 Design. Their is much potential this missile type can lead Iran to.

 

[WinterNights]

This is incredible man. So can we now also assume Iran has a 2000km ranged antiship ballistic missile? I don't see why this missile could not target a large, slow moving aircraft carrier!

 

[Sineva]

This is incredible man. So can we now also assume Iran has a 2000km ranged antiship ballistic missile? I don't see why this missile could not target a large, slow moving aircraft carrier!

The problem there is finding the target in real time and passing the updates on its location in real time to the weapon.In order to make use of the effective range of the weapon[2-3000km depending on payload] in that role you would need either a constellation of low level recon sats or very,very long range drones,which in all likelihood would need its own com sats to communicate at those ranges.
To really use these missiles in that role you would need to beef up irans long range surveillance capabilities.
One option tho would be attacking things like carriers in very,very confined waterways,such as the suez canal,where agents on the ground could give you the basic updates required on the exact position of the target.

Heres a close up of the back end of the khorramshahr,sadly you cant see that much because of the covering.

Personally I`m not that sure about the claim of that material being a "thermal blanket"

 

[WinterNights]

The problem there is finding the target in real time and passing the updates on its location in real time to the weapon.In order to make use of the effective range of the weapon[2-3000km depending on payload] in that role you would need either a constellation of low level recon sats or very,very long range drones,which in all likelihood would need its own com sats to communicate at those ranges.
To really use these missiles in that role you would need to beef up irans long range surveillance capabilities.
One option tho would be attacking things like carriers in very,very confined waterways,such as the suez canal,where agents on the ground could give you the basic updates required on the exact position of the target.

Heres a close up of the back end of the khorramshahr,sadly you cant see that much because of the covering.

Personally I`m not that sure about the claim of that material being a "thermal blanket"

Yes that is a very good point. I think the main barrier for Iran targeting ships 2000-3000km away is due to surveillance/detection and not the missiles itself. Hopefully the OTH radars Iran builds can aid in surface ship detection and this combined with spy ships/ drones can aid us in this. I think from now on, Iran should try and have such spy ships at those distances to keep an eye on the "traffic". Assuming we already are not doing that!

 

[yavar]

 

[PeeD]

One of the roles a large S-171 makes sense is exactly such sea surveillance. Long range SAR and optical sensors, no weapons.

A key to that is long range areal data-link and a small swarm that relay that data back to the HQ. One of the two bumps of the RQ-170 may houses such a system. The S-129 now also has a redesigned front cover that may house such a system. So we have indications that this communication system has been mastered.

If Iran masters a Mig-31-like phased array long range pencil beam communication link, several stealth relay drones would keep non-satellite connection to the S-171 in the target area. The S-171 would then just request such a MaRV on a solid fuel missile if it has found a ship.

This is the path and it now only depends on when the engine of the RQ-170 can be serial produced successfully.

Everyone should realize that this is no emergency solution due to lack of satcom. It is a new communication layer which may prove even more robust than a satcom. Strategic powers have developed to ability to take out predicted orbit satellites with ASATs.

 

[skyshadow]

According to some people here more than several kilometer and iran actually fired several thousands of them to make on fall in the center of video.


Looks faster than our previous warheads.

Yes, because at hypersonic speed molecules break apart creating an electrically charged plasma layer around the missile warhead. It is quite obvious that the speed of the warhead is higher than Mach 13.

The warhead shone completely due to its high speed and heat. This is not normal at all!

that is true, we never had missiles that can reach an speed higher than Mach 12, perhaps other than the Khorramshahr _ 1.

Very proud of my Iranian friends at successfully mastering R-27 Design. Their is much potential this missile type can lead Iran to.

Thank you. Surely we are waiting for better news. We also have news about testing various rocket engines on the anti-aircraft missiles. technological engine 04, written on rocket body.

 

[Hack-Hook]

One of the roles a large S-171 makes sense is exactly such sea surveillance. Long range SAR and optical sensors, no weapons.

A key to that is long range areal data-link and a small swarm that relay that data back to the HQ. One of the two bumps of the RQ-170 may houses such a system. The S-129 now also has a redesigned front cover that may house such a system. So we have indications that this communication system has been mastered.

If Iran masters a Mig-31-like phased array long range pencil beam communication link, several stealth relay drones would keep non-satellite connection to the S-171 in the target area. The S-171 would then just request such a MaRV on a solid fuel missile if it has found a ship.

This is the path and it now only depends on when the engine of the RQ-170 can be serial produced successfully.

Everyone should realize that this is no emergency solution due to lack of satcom. It is a new communication layer which may prove even more robust than a satcom. Strategic powers have developed to ability to take out predicted orbit satellites with ASATs.

I wonder if the fact that those steering fin on the warhead acted and operated at those speeds and temperature means we mastered a new level in methalorgy.

 

[PeeD]

A new level of carbon and composite technology.

Regarding the crashed booster stage:
This should be the "Qiam-3". It shows how important the Qiams place and target list is for Irans BM arsenal.
9 years after the Qiam they may soon switch production to a new variant.

The Qiam-3 would be basically a Qiam-2 but with UDMH fuel and the vernier engines of the Khorramshahr.
-The new fuel for the modified SCUD-B engine would add thrust.
-The two venier engines another extra thrust
-The lack of jet vanes once again give some extra thrust.
Result would be a Qiam with about 1000-1200km or about 40% extra thrust.

Those changes increase cost but about the same happens as with the Noor and Nasir AshM: Much smaller missile with similar performance (in context of Shahab-3 and Qiam-3).

This miniaturization (75% weight reduction) should be worth it. A new liquid workhorse.
If the Ghadr/Emad are also replaced with the Khorrmashahr, all purely SCUD based technology will be replaced by R-27 heritage technology.

Plus: the small fins of the Qiam-2 can be removed again like on the Qiam-1

 

[yavar]

 

[TheImmortal]

Most warheads glow upon entering the atmosphere, doesn’t mean much.

Also doubtful that this missile has terminal velocity even close to Mach 13. As a warheads enters the atmosphere it starts decelerating due to friction. Depending on the angle of entry into the atmosphere and other factors, it could lose quite a bit of speed (several “machs”).

Since this is 2,500-4,000KM Missile design it would be unlikely that it could match the Terminal velocity of a russian or American ICBM warhead.

Mastering BM-25 (H-10) is necessary step in order for Iran to begin testing designs along the lines of H-14 and H-15 (NK ICBMs). Iran likely has an contingency ICBM program at Sharoud Missile base.

The key will be if we start seeing Iranian SLVs using R-27 engines instead of old scud engines.

 

[Websorber]

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[Aramagedon]

Nice documentary: