Iranian mindset towards life and what they really need

[Azadkashmir]

Hard agree. Business-minded mullahs are the worst of the bunch...and indeed, most people don't understand the international/domestic banking system or basic economics.

Kick out the stool on which the USD operates and half it's advantages collapse overnight.

i am talking bout imams that understand the petro -dollar can influence and educate populous to move towards gold dinar and barter.

 

[BlessedKingOfLonging]

i am talking bout imams that understand the petro -dollar can influence and educate populous to move towards gold dinar and barter.

Yes, I got that. I'm in favour of your solution myself.

 

[Azadkashmir]

Yes, I got that. I'm in favour of your solution myself.

sheikh imran said in his talks that he talked to iranian leadership, ahmedinejad, and thatr ahmedinejad told him it was us that explained the petro dollar to russians and alternative.

 

[drmeson]

What is going to happen in the future is that Iran, and Iraq probably first would start their own inter-currency exchange and Barter system to get rid of USD. Iran Iraq trade is close to 9-10 Bln USD yearly and in the future it may even increase. At first Iran and Iraq should start this system then Turkey will willingly join as Iraq is one of its biggest export market. We are all connected by massive borders, and history and together these countries have a combined GDP of 2+ trillion USD. Ironically Erdoo is once again licking Zionist behind.

 

[Mirzali Khan]

The Iranians that escape iran usually hate iran. I knew alot of iranians in UK and they just hate their roots. Also iranians are the only muslims that will eat pork. Ive seen all types of sinner muslims but they never eat pork, iranians are an exception. On my flight to UK from doha, this iranian guy sitting beside me told me he is out of iran for first time in life and will never go back. A while later he opts for ham,i told him its pig(thinking he may not know), he said i know and ive always wanted to eat it. Lolz

A lot of diaspora don't "hate their roots" in my opinion. They hate their Muslim background and end up wearing Farwahars and becoming Parsi.

 

[drmeson]

sheikh imran said in his talks that he talked to iranian leadership, ahmedinejad, and thatr ahmedinejad told him it was us that explained the petro dollar to russians and alternative.

Iranian leadership esp IRGC is well aware of the petro dollar's weak neck which is why when they need to shake US interests to their core they attack Saudi Aramco. IRGC has zero interest in MBS or inner Saudi politics as they see them as nothing but an extended arm of the American CIA in the region. Saudi Arabia post ottoman age did not even live for 2 full decades as an independent country. As soon as oil was discovered, the west got in with the installation of a puppet regime in Riyadh in the 1930s. They have always been CIA puppets, before the revolution from Mosadegh's crisis Shahi Iran was the same. Whenever the US wants to do something in the Islamic world they use the Saudi puppet to gain legitimacy. They want Zion Israel to be accepted post-Palestinian "problem" removal? no problem (P)GCC will lick Zioni balls first in name of "an alliance against Iran" so the rest of the Islamic world can follow. Iran and Saudi Arabia have zero issues between them from the country to the country level. As a matter of fact, Iran has fought against Ottoman Turkey, and Czar Russia for centuries but it has never fought against Peninsula in the last 1000+ years. The real reason behind rivalry is that post-revolution we could see the US in the Peninsula in form of the ruling family and the petrodollar is literally there as a target with its core in the desert, terminals, and in the sea from where it flows out. One of the reasons behind Iran putting extra efforts into creating an extremely accurate or efficient BM/CM/UCAV arsenal above its airforce is that in case of conflict we will ruin the petrodollar with these strikes. This is why you have never or will never see Saudis making much noise over us openly attacking their land. They know we got American neck clenched on their desert-like no one ever has. Not even USSR or China.

Btw we are not against the people of Arabia. We have lived side by side forever since we existed like Anatolia, Russia or Indics to east. Our problems with them start with and end with the ruling puppets.

 

[Mirzali Khan]

Only Pakistanis and Afghans are religious

Bengalis too.

 

[drmeson]

A lot of diaspora don't "hate their roots" in my opinion. They hate their Muslim background and end up wearing Farwahars and becoming Parsi.

Not us the northerners. We worship Asena the wolf after every Islamic prayer.

 

[Mirzali Khan]

Not us the northerners. We worship Asena the wolf after every Islamic prayer.

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Wasn't there some howling at a Azeri football game?

 

[Azadkashmir]

Iranian leadership esp IRGC is well aware of the petro dollar's weak neck which is why when they need to shake US interests to their core they attack Saudi Aramco. IRGC has zero interest in MBS or inner Saudi politics as they see them as nothing but an extended arm of the American CIA in the region. Saudi Arabia post ottoman age did not even live for 2 full decades as an independent country. As soon as oil was discovered, the west got in with the installation of a puppet regime in Riyadh in the 1930s. They have always been CIA puppets, before the revolution from Mosadegh's crisis Shahi Iran was the same. Whenever the US wants to do something in the Islamic world they use the Saudi puppet to gain legitimacy. They want Zion Israel to be accepted post-Palestinian "problem" removal? no problem (P)GCC will lick Zioni balls first in name of "an alliance against Iran" so the rest of the Islamic world can follow. Iran and Saudi Arabia have zero issues between them from the country to the country level. As a matter of fact, Iran has fought against Ottoman Turkey, and Czar Russia for centuries but it has never fought against Peninsula in the last 1000+ years. The real reason behind rivalry is that post-revolution we could see the US in the Peninsula in form of the ruling family and the petrodollar is literally there as a target with its core in the desert, terminals, and in the sea from where it flows out. One of the reasons behind Iran putting extra efforts into creating an extremely accurate or efficient BM/CM/UCAV arsenal above its airforce is that in case of conflict we will ruin the petrodollar with these strikes. This is why you have never or will never see Saudis making much noise over us openly attacking their land. They know we got American neck clenched on their desert-like no one ever has. Not even USSR or China.

Btw we are not against the people of Arabia. We have lived side by side forever since we existed like Anatolia, Russia or Indics to east. Our problems with them start with and end with the ruling puppets.

Thats why Saudis use the shia kafir play thing on the mind of the people knowing ppl are stupid. They will think religiously and that kaaba is under attack mentality, not understading that this is economics of crashing the dollar if you burn down saudi oil fields.


Imagine doing one stone, kill two bird at once by switch to barter and gold dinar and hit the saudi oil field at same time. this too with all Muslim and friendly countries apply it all at once. its like suddenly pulling the rug under uncle sam.

 

[drmeson]

Wasn't there some howling at a Azeri football game?

Yup. We all turn into Shah Esmael Safavids when Tractor Sazi clashes with Persepolis. No mercy for perso-kurdis that day on field.

(This has been like that for almost 5-6 decades. Its a proper sports rivalry)

 

[drmeson]

Thats why Saudis use the shia kafir play thing on the mind of the people knowing ppl are stupid. They will think religiously and that kaaba is under attack mentality, not understading that this is economics of crashing the dollar if you burn down saudi oil fields.


Imagine doing one stone, kill two bird at once by switch to barter and gold dinar and hit the saudi oil field at same time. this too with all Muslim and friendly countries apply it all at once. its like suddenly pulling the rug under uncle sam.

You are right. To the CIA/Saudi credit they did try to fuel fundamentalism into the populace around post-revolution Iranian sphere of influence to counter its anti-American (anti petrodollar) ideas e.g. in the Arab world they worked hard on maintaining tyrant dysfunctional monarches who would provide military bases, ports to US/allies and give oil contracts to western companies. Where they found poverty and no oil, they funneled money to open radicalization terror schools to create an army of delusional sunni extremists who with their terror would make sure that local sects like Shias or Sufis would not turn into Iranian proxies. Anglos and Americans practiced the ditto model of pushing right vs left ideas to counter the USSR during the cold war in non-Islamic countries. If any government would see this reality and try to get out of this divide and rule policy, they would change the regime by funneling money to opposition/rebel group through their local monitoring puppet (Shahi Iran itself was this monitor, now its KSA).

Where the model fails is that this works both ways. Wherever sunni fundamentalism started at american behest, the shia/sufi side of that place automatically started getting into the rival fold which these days is morphed by Iran (and Russia, China). Who would have otherwise thought in 1980s or 90s that oneday Azeri-Perso-kurdi Iran would be leading a block of Arabs stretching from Yemen to Lebanon against US and Russia would be mauling eastern european whore producers while China would be controlling the global economy. This is where American understanding of the Islamic world fails. They could not understand how Iraq was stolen from their clenches by Iran, how Syria despite getting cornered by them (using KSA, Israel, Turkey) from all sides still got saved by Iran+Russia, how Hezbollah almost beat Israel to shit in 2006 (they are far stronger now) and how Houthis can burn root of petro USD to ashes if they want. If one day any sane nationalist king sits on the throne of KSA he would see it too and may order Americans to get out of the peninsula then US will use the leftists/radicals population sections of KSA to bring down their own installed monarch. They do this.

Shia sunni rivalry has always been nothing but a mere political tool. Only a rational person would understand this. It started as a tribal conflict between same region arabs themselves for the caliphate, later used by Maghrebi Fatimids against Abbasids to shift the power out of Peninsula, and then last time among Anatolian Turks vs Iranian Turks for regional supremacy as tribal confederations could not accept each other's influence. That is it. You will not find any actual Shia-Sunni conflict anywhere else without foreign intervention. This is why when I read stupid people on this forum making sectarian jabs at their own people I literally laugh at these disposable pawns of international games. If you are above it, take pride in being smarter than the majority.

 

[Hack-Hook]

An Afghan refugee did that.

you only recall that ?

 

[SalarHaqq]

When was the last time you were here. New trends is to first stab one or two time then ask for the property.

Still peanuts compared to stabbing someone not in order to rob their property, but for no reason or simply "for fun", which is not uncommon in many western countries.

Also, as I said this is a consequence of Iranians being more stubborn in the face of criminals, as compared to residents of the west who in general are absolutely terrified and fearing for their lives when confronted with such a situation.

By the way here we are not talking about west is more degenerate or Iran. We are talking about who in Iran is more degenerate.

As I said we are nod discussing west is more degenerate or east. We are talking about iran. More specifically for the Tehran

It's important that Iranians know the reality of life under the western model of governance with its liberal, secular social-cultural norms.

When it comes to Iran, thugs who get drunk and then fight each other with knives or go mugging people aren't practicing their religion properly at all.

Really don't say much at all.

It says that the nuclear family structure in Iran is not in the sad state it finds itself in countries governed by secular regimes including western ones. The more the notion of a functional family loses its social pertinence, the greater chances are that fathers will no longer take as seriously their educational duties vis à vis their offspring.

Let's talk about our country . What happened to the father's who killed their children by cutting their head.

I've no idea what happened to them, but I personally know of people around here brutally assaulted (almost killed) and/or effectively murdered their parents.

What is unheard of in Iran, however, is people regularly raping newborns and babies. The epitome of degeneracy, an act of simply unthinkable monstruosity.

And look at some certain type of magazine inside Iran and you will see the same degeneracy also can be found here

No it can't. The degeneracy is at a completely different level and of a completely different nature in the west.

 

[SalarHaqq]

I am not saying that Central Persians are not religious. I know they are, I know the martyrs and we are proud of our countrymen, brothers. If azeris are the Sword of Iran, Persians are the heart and soul of Iran.

My point was just that whenever you find any Iranian uprising you will find Turks of NW and NE at the helm. Even if you count the no. of enghelabis, per capita the Azeris and Khorasanis beat everyone else.

Is there a comprehensive statistical study to support it? Iranians are not divided along "ethno"-linguistic lines with each group playing a different role in politics. My example of Najafabad was an illustration, since if I'm not mistaken that town inhabited by Persian-speakers has had the highest rate of martyrs in the war. Khorasanis are also essentially Persian-speakers, the Kurdish-, Azari- and Turkmen-speaking minorities there are small in terms of percentage.

Not that it's relevant though, because linguistic backgrounds are not a determining factor in this. Individual attributes are not transmitted through "ethnicity" and how much a group is represented in this or that area of activity is essentially a statistical coincidence, and it constantly fluctuates over time (i.e. it's not a fixed occurrence). Today an uprising can be led by someone from a certain linguistic background, tomorrow by someone from another. Because Iran is a homogenized, strongly integrated society. "Ethno"-linguistic descent isn't the decisive factor here. Individual, local and other elements such as socio-cultural class are, and they happen to span across all of Iran's linguistic groups.

There's also the fact that upwards of 50% of Iranians (and probably more than 60%-70%) are of mixed sub-national linguistic backgrounds, so the Iranian population cannot even be divided into "ethno"-linguistic categories to start with. Most belong to several of these at once. My family members for instance have mixed roots from four to five different such linguistic communities.

"Ethnicized" interpretations of Iranian politics lack solid factual foundation. More importantly though, they represent a danger to Iran's national unity and territorial integrity to be honest. Hence why Iran's existential enemies and in particular the zionists are fully invested in promoting "ethnic" type of identitarianism because this will then be instrumentalized to foment separatism. Including in the form of calls for a "federalization" of Iran along "ethno'-linguistic lines, a clear initial step towards balkanization of the country following the ex-Yugoslav and norhern Iraqi examples.