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Man,that is truly very sad to hear.I would`ve at least expected the use of small drones like the yasir/scan eagle for basic visual spotting to be wide spread.
The application of this technology across the entirety of the iranian armed forces seems to be extremely uneven and adhoc.
You are talking about surveilance and data access but he is talking about targeting methods, fire corection,calculations of angle,azimuth...ofcourse they use drones...but even when you have data of enemy position,you stil have to calculate ,it is not guided missile,but simple balistic projectile....so lets say you have someone on the ground 100m from enemy,and he has GPS ,or you have drone in the air...now you are provided with exact coordinate..than what,... you make calculation based on your position...to get azimuth,angle for howitzer or mortar....you fire....than you miss...than goes fire corection,based on how much you miss...that is why they call it trial/error. It is how every military work when it comes to artilery,they now use GPS, ,gyro stabilizators and balistic computers to calculate...but there is no magic for unguided artilery,they still have to calculate gun angle,azimuth based on data acquired and their position...
 

Not really well versed on tanks, but how does this look so far?
It is a welded steel turret very similar to the turret of the T-90 Main battle tank. The empty "bins" in front of the turret will house None explosive reactive armour that consists of plates of steal and rubber sandwiched together. The impact of either a shaped charge jet (High Explosive Anti Tank) or long-rod penetrator (Armour Penetrating Fin Stabilized Discarding Sabot) after the first layer has been perforated and while the rubber layer is being penetrated will cause the rubber to deform and expand, so deforming both the back and front plates. Both attack methods will suffer from obstruction to their expected paths, so experiencing a greater thickness of armour than there is nominally, thus lowering penetration. Also for rod penetrations, the transverse force experienced due to the deformation may cause the rod to shatter, bend, or just change its path, again lowering penetration. The turret is further protected by a new Iranian Explosive reactive Armour (ERA) similar to the Relikt ERA fitted on the T-90MS, which is likely effective against both HEAT and APFSDS rounds. The Fire Control System is a copy of the Italian TURMS-T that was exported to Syria and used to upgrade some of their T-72 fleet. TURMS-T is similar in capability to the Fire Control System found on the U.S M-1 Abrams MBTs and it uses a Laser range finder that feeds the range to target to a ballistic computer and the gun automatically elevates to ensure a high first round hit probability. TURMS-T is equipped with both day sight and thermal sight for night fighting capability. The Karrar also utilizes the 1K13-19 sight to allow the Karrar to guide the Gun launched Svir (AT-11 Sniper) anti tank missile which Iran produces under the name Tondar.
 
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It is a welded steel turret very similar to the turret of the T-90 Main battle tank. The empty "bins" in front of the turret will house None explosive reactive armour that consists of plates of steal and rubber sandwiched together. The impact of either a shaped charge jet (High Explosive Anti Tank) or long-rod penetrator (Armour Penetrating Fin Stabilized Discarding Sabot) after the first layer has been perforated and while the rubber layer is being penetrated will cause the rubber to deform and expand, so deforming both the back and front plates. Both attack methods will suffer from obstruction to their expected paths, so experiencing a greater thickness of armour than there is nominally, thus lowering penetration. Also for rod penetrations, the transverse force experienced due to the deformation may cause the rod to shatter, bend, or just change its path, again lowering penetration. The turret is further protected by a new Iranian Explosive reactive Armour (ERA) similar to the Relikt ERA fitted on the T-90MS, which is likely effective against both HEAT and APFSDS rounds. The Fire Control System is a copy of the Italian TURMS-T that was exported to Syria and used to upgrade some of their T-72 fleet. TURMS-T is similar in capability to the Fire Control System found on the U.S M-1 Abrams MBTs and it uses a Laser range finder that feeds the range to target to a ballistic computer and the gun automatically elevates to ensure a high first round hit probability. TURMS-T is equipped with both day sight and thermal sight for night fighting capability. The Karrar also utilizes the 1K13-19 sight to allow the Karrar to guide the Gun launched Svir (AT-11 Sniper) anti tank missile which Iran produces under the name Tondar.

The question is has the cannon been upgraded or is it the same cannon as T-72 which is keeping Iran from producing higher velocity rounds.
 
The question is has the cannon been upgraded or is it the same cannon as T-72 which is keeping Iran from producing higher velocity rounds.
It uses the same 2A46M smooth bore gun as the current T-72S fleet. It would be a good Idea if they would lengthen the barrel from its current L48 to something like L55 Caliber. The Germans did the same to their Rheinmetall 120MM gun from L44 to L55 to increase the penetration of their Tungsten APFSDS rounds to Depleted Uranium penetration levels for the original L44 guns.
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It uses the same 2A46M smooth bore gun as the current T-72S fleet. It would be a good Idea if they would lengthen the barrel from its current L48 to something like L55 Caliber. The Germans did the same to their Rheinmetall 120MM gun from L44 to L55 to increase the penetration of their Tungsten APFSDS rounds to Depleted Uranium penetration levels for the original L44 guns.

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Could be a reason why army hasn’t mass adopted the Karrar. After all, the cannon is a bit dated.

Better to wait for a Karrar 2 upgrade package that has a stronger cannon.
 
Could be a reason why army hasn’t mass adopted the Karrar. After all, the cannon is a bit dated.

Better to wait for a Karrar 2 upgrade package that has a stronger cannon.
The USSR first fielded its T-64s with the 2A20 115mm gun then upgraded to 2A46 later when that gun became available. The U.S also fielded the M-1 Abrams with the M-68 105mm gun and later upgraded to the M-256 120mm gun. Iran should and I believe is going to field the Karrar with the existing 2A46M 125mm gun and then it must upgrade it with a better local designed tank gun like the Chinese have done. It is not a big deal to swap out guns. I would like to see at least the M-60 and Chieftain fleet to be upgraded with a new effective gun in the future as well.
 
Russians don't show or export their new 2A82-1M gun https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/2А82

But its 17% stronger than the NATO L55
That extra energy can be put into a somewhat longer APFSDS rounds, one that is not as fragile to ERA as newest high l/d ratio U.S rounds.
For that a modified autoloader is needed.

Its unknown if Iran is working on a new gun, but it would make sense to wait for it.
Iran has almost no previous experience in this field.
 
Russians don't show or export their new 2A82-1M gun https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/2А82

But its 17% stronger than the NATO L55
That extra energy can be put into a somewhat longer APFSDS rounds, one that is not as fragile to ERA as newest high l/d ratio U.S rounds.
For that a modified autoloader is needed.

Its unknown if Iran is working on a new gun, but it would make sense to wait for it.
Iran has almost no previous experience in this field.
iran is working on ramjet ammunitions these days so forget the talk about where iran has experience and not according to others
 
you dont mind asking you for any source confirming this?
i believe it was on this page but you must search for it yourself it was atleast a year or so ago when india unveiled its ramjet progress iran also said it is working on this
 

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