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Iranian consulate in Basra south Iraq is one fire now as thousands of protestors try storm it

For first step to remind Iraqis about the reality , we can deny them from entering Iran and buy their need with 1/7 actual price in Iraq and specially 'Basra' ....
 
Iran sold Iraq weapons at a high price, in the end it was Iraqis who died on the battlefield. In fact, the force that really saved Iraq was ISOF and it's the force with literally zero connections to Iran. It's the closest to an American force you find in Iraq, all that of course you don't mention. Qasem Soleimani who is a grandpa by now touring the battlefield has conquered IS with his cosmic powers.

Iran aided Iraq, correct. Just like dozens of other states aided Iraq. Iran did so out of self-interests first and foremost as we're a neighbor and it gave them a chance to re-spawn dozens of Hezbollahi militia's which they successfully did so.

This statement 'dropped their weapons and ran like little bi.tches' shows animosity you have which is the same reason Iraqis are feeling anger towards Iran. If you think that all that doesn't matter and that you dictate Iraq then again you're wrong, it's not that simple. Reality is not the hyper-inflated value of people like Soleimani, likewise the Kurds were inflated by the media until they got trashed.

To add to that, this seems to be done by followers of Sadr and others that identify as nationalists. I don't agree with burning consulates but it's a good thing they burn Hezbollahi HQ's. We don't need that shit.

The problem with Iranian influence in Iraq is that Iran isn't exactly in a great situation to be wanting that influence, no sane person in Iraq is waiting to join the isolated axis of resistance to do all the work for Iran with those 10 Hezbollahi militias. The country remains a whole due to the Iraqis that died, not Iran which sold some weapons that could have been acquired from anywhere. Your ego is inflated as well which I understand given all the hype from the media, you can operate by that or get back to reality as Kurds did once they realized their image doesn't align with reality.

I have no animosity towards Iraqis, but that statement is the truth, your soldier ran away like bunch of pathetic cowards. Who were the ones fighting ISIS and saved baghdad from falling? Same applies for the Kurds, go ask them who came to their rescue. I suggest you quit talking smack and come back to reality. If it were not for these "10 Hezbollahi" groups and Iran, there would no Iraq as you know it.

These "protesters" and sadr will be dealt with. That fool has a tendency to act out of line, but this time he needs a proper dealing. The fact of the matter is, Iraq is and never will be a unified nation. Even if Iran/it's groups packed up and left from Iraq, someone else will take over that gap it leaves behind. The reality is however, Iran will not leave, why should it?
 
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I have no animosity towards Iraqis, but that statement is the truth, your soldier ran away like bunch of pathetic cowards. Who were the ones fighting ISIS and saved baghdad from falling? Same applies for the Kurds, go ask them who came to their rescue. I suggest you quit talking smack and come back to reality. If it were not for these "10 Hezbollahi" groups and Iran, there would no Iraq as you know it.

These "protesters" and sadr will be dealt with. That fool has a tendency to act out of line, but this time he needs a proper dealing. The fact of the matter is, Iraq is and never will be a unified nation. Even if Iran/it's groups packed up and left from Iraq, someone else will take over that gap it leaves behind. The reality is however, Iran will not leave, why should it?

You as an Iranian should know better, instead it's like you're some redneck old grandpa that I have to educate about some basics now. Also militaries do not run away on large-scale from fear, think about it. A co-ordinated run off ignited by fear?

Here's the thing, you don't even know the army commanders of Mosul at that time. You don't know the federal police commander Mahdi al Gharawi and his role. You don't really know anything much, this is not an argument but a one-sided lecture to inform you which i'm not too interested in to do so for the 100th time.

No one ran away from fear, the meltdown and political collapse of the military high command had no connection to fear. You are telling me they ran away in fear only to spend the motnhs afterwards fighting them 'with fear?', including Mosul which was the roughest urban battle since WW2 according to American generals.

US air force saved the Kurds when IS was targeting Arbil with artilery. USAF saved the Kurds in every way. Not Iran.

Iraq doesn't need Iranian interference, all of it is negative hence these protests. Very stupid policy which will be a disaster for Iran.
 
Palestine never belonged to you

Strange , since you yourself posted here a coin that was found in Israel - dating from 30-40 BC. That was most kind of you. Care to explain what was that all about ?

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You as an Iranian should know better, instead it's like you're some redneck old grandpa that I have to educate about some basics now. Also militaries do not run away on large-scale from fear, think about it. A co-ordinated run off ignited by fear?

Here's the thing, you don't even know the army commanders of Mosul at that time. You don't know the federal police commander Mahdi al Gharawi and his role. You don't really know anything much, this is not an argument but a one-sided lecture to inform you which i'm not too interested in to do so for the 100th time.

No one ran away from fear, the meltdown and political collapse of the military high command had no connection to fear. You are telling me they ran away in fear only to spend the motnhs afterwards fighting them 'with fear?', including Mosul which was the roughest urban battle since WW2 according to American generals.

US air force saved the Kurds when IS was targeting Arbil with artilery. USAF saved the Kurds in every way. Not Iran.

Iraq doesn't need Iranian interference, all of it is negative hence these protests. Very stupid policy which will be a disaster for Iran.

Unfortunately for you, nobody except bunch of gullible people like you actually buys this fantasy. I guess the peshmerga also ran away because there was some conspiracy? Reality is, the Iraqi army initially were bunch of cowards that did not want to fight. Also this talk of a conspiracy is mostly ghiberish.

Iran was the very first group to come to Kurdish rescue and saved them, I suggest you quit talking ghiberish . You're obviously clueless. And without that swift Iranian intervension, Kurds would have fallen. Don't believe me? Even the BBC claims so:


Also, let's not forget this:


Kurdistan thanks Iran for help against IS’


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The Prime Minister of the Kurdistan Region Nechirvan Barzani, June 1, 2016. (Photo: Kurdistan24)

Kurdistan Iran Tehran Erbil ISIS ISIL Islamic State
ERBIL, Kurdistan Region (Kurdistan24) – There is no doubt that Tehran helped the Kurdistan Region first in 2014 when the Islamic State (IS) attacked the Region, said a senior Kurdish official on Wednesday.

http://www.kurdistan24.net/en/news/a735cf3c-b765-4067-a0d4-7a9de2786811/‘Kurdistan-thanks-Iran-for-help-against-IS’

Also check this:


Keep believing in your own fantasies, the reality is very different and unlike you, what I am saying it believed by almost everyone, even the Americans (which are very anti-Iran regime)



I suggest you educate yourself a little.
 
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All whom think it was about Iran read it, plus protesters have torched almost every other political party or militia office in Basra ... and even tried to reach American consulate too .. it's all about people frustrated and angered due to years of war ,problems and corruption also political goals of some countries ... not Iranians ... and raising Basra flag shows their intentions ...
Some tries to fish from this muddy water ...

There's more at stake in the Basra protests than dirty water and oil

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On Friday morning, the protests in Basra continued. The day was young, and it was already a scalding 43 degrees centigrade (109 degrees Fahrenheit). By the afternoon it was even hotter. The protests usually pick up after sunset, when the temperatures drop -- ever so slightly.
All this week Basra, Iraq's third-largest city, has been wracked by protests over the decrepit state of public services. The municipal water supply is contaminated by salt water, sending thousands to the hospital in recent months, while long power cuts continue, at a time when daytime temperatures regularly reach 50 degrees centigrade (122 Fahrenheit).
Added to these immediate, in-your-face discomforts are perennial unemployment and that constant of contemporary Iraq, rampant corruption.
It shouldn't be like that. Southern Iraq sits atop around 80% of Iraq's proven oil reserves, and contains the country's only deep-water port, Um Qasr. Much of the country's wealth comes from the Basra area, but doesn't stay there.

Fall from grace
Basra, sitting on the Shatt Al-Arab waterway, was once known as the "Venice of the East" because of its system of canals, canals now brimming with rubbish. Not long ago it was a prosperous, ethnically diverse, sophisticated trading city, its hinterland producing world-famous dates.

Basra's decline began in the early 1980s with the Iran-Iraq war, when frequent Iranian shelling forced hundreds of thousands to flee, followed by the lean years of the US-imposed international sanctions.
I visited the city several times during the 1990s, and it barely showed signs of recovery. It was a sad, dirty, decaying place, with many of the buildings still damaged. Outside Basra stood the stark trunks of hundreds of decapitated date palms, their tops lopped off by the shelling.
In recent years Iraq's resources have been focused on the war against ISIS. The government was happy to take recruits from southern Iraq and send them to the front, but had little time or energy for Basra.
While Basra burns, Baghdad is gripped by political paralysis following an inconclusive election in May. The various political forces have been haggling over the spoils and are still far from deciding on the makeup of the new government.

In July caretaker Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi promised billions of dollars to upgrade Basra's services after an earlier outbreak of protests. That was two months ago, and promises remain just promises.
The real winner from the current unrest may be Muqtada al-Sadr, the Shia cleric who has emerged as a blistering critic of corruption.

Protesting the elite's excesses
Al-Sadr, not long ago an implacable foe of the US-led occupation, in 2016 inspired a spate of mass anti-corruption marches on Baghdad's so-called Green Zone, a 10-square-kilometer fortified forbidden zone containing the Iraqi parliament, ministries, embassies and the sumptuous villas of Iraqi leaders.
The Baghdad marches, which saw protesters occupy the parliament, were inspired by the same grievances that have spurred on the unrest in Basra. While Baghdad suffered -- and continues to suffer -- from prolonged power cuts, deteriorating public services and a stagnant economy, the inhabitants of the Green Zone lived -- and continue to live -- in isolated splendor behind high walls.

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Iraqi Shia cleric Muqtada al-Sadr attends a meeting in June.

Al-Sadr has capitalized on the deep resentment against the excesses of Iraq's political class, and Basra is a golden opportunity.
In a pointed tweet addressed to Abadi, al-Sadr said: "I hope you don't think that the Basra revolutionaries are just a bubble ... quickly release Basra's money and give it to clean hands to start at once with immediate and future development projects. And beware of complacency and negligence."
The tweet aside, al-Sadr has agreed to unite his Sairoun electoral list with Abadi's Nasr list in the hopes of forming a workable government. Via Basra's revolt, he may be reminding Abadi that, even though the latter is expected to sit in the prime minister's chair, al-Sadr has the street.
While protesters have torched almost every other political party or militia office in Basra, al-Sadr's Saraya As-Salam militia offices have been spared.

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Residents in the country's oil-rich south feel neglected by Baghdad despite promises to address issues surrounding basic services and high unemployment.
Above and beyond domestic politics, unrest in Basra could have an immediate impact on global oil prices. Iraq has the world's second-largest proven oil reserves, and the production from the area around Basra makes up, according to some estimates, as much as 4% of world oil production.
Already, angry Basra residents have protested outside oil company facilities demanding jobs, and others have blocked the road to the port of Um Qasr.
The danger of disruption to Iraq's oil exports comes at a time when the Trump administration is hell-bent on crippling Iran's ability to export oil as it imposes sanctions after pulling out of the nuclear deal.
As distant and disconnected as a man shouting about revolution in a city far, far away might seem, it's much closer than you might think.
 
Unfortunately for you, nobody except bunch of gullible people like you actually buys this fantasy. I guess the peshmerga also ran away because there was some conspiracy? Reality is, the Iraqi army initially were bunch of cowards that did not want to fight. Also this talk of a conspiracy is mostly ghiberish.

Iran was the very first group to come to Kurdish rescue and saved them, I suggest you quit talking ghiberish . You're obviously clueless. And without that swift Iranian intervension, Kurds would have fallen. Don't believe me? Even the BBC claims so:


Also, let's not forget this:


Kurdistan thanks Iran for help against IS’


barzaniPM.jpg

The Prime Minister of the Kurdistan Region Nechirvan Barzani, June 1, 2016. (Photo: Kurdistan24)

Kurdistan Iran Tehran Erbil ISIS ISIL Islamic State
ERBIL, Kurdistan Region (Kurdistan24) – There is no doubt that Tehran helped the Kurdistan Region first in 2014 when the Islamic State (IS) attacked the Region, said a senior Kurdish official on Wednesday.

http://www.kurdistan24.net/en/news/a735cf3c-b765-4067-a0d4-7a9de2786811/‘Kurdistan-thanks-Iran-for-help-against-IS’

Also check this:


Keep believing in your own fantasies, the reality is very different and unlike you, what I am saying it believed by almost everyone, even the Americans (which are very anti-Iran regime)



I suggest you educate yourself a little.


What do I care about Kurds or the Peshmerga? They didn't do shit but build trenches. ISOF led every battle.

Those vids, lol. 'Analysts'.. hehe. Any monkey can become such an analyst, just the nametag doesn't mean they're the ultimate truth.

You know too little, might educate you later.
 
What do I care about Kurds or the Peshmerga? They didn't do shit but build trenches. ISOF led every battle.

Those vids, lol. 'Analysts'.. hehe. Any monkey can become such an analyst, just the nametag doesn't mean they're the ultimate truth.

You know too little, might educate you later.

What a moronic reply. You mentioned the Kurds so I educated you.

Those experts are in a far better position to talk about the situation than some kid on a forum like you. I am meant to believe an ex-intelligence officer in the US knows less than you?:lol: Forget the fact there are Iraqis on the panel too. Furthermore, the rest of those videos are showing actual officials talk about the matter, you clearly did not even watch them.

It seems I am the one educating you given I am the one posting evidence for everything I am saying. Go back to sleep kid.
 
Iran sold Iraq weapons at a high price, in the end it was Iraqis who died on the battlefield.
Who else should have died FOR Iraq in Iraq? Iranians? Why should they? Take responsibility for your situation!Can you provide evidence Iran sold weapons at a "higher price" to Iraq? Afterall, your army way completely useless with all the high quality(and expensive)US weapons you already bought? Iraq's military infrastructiure was just incompetent. accept it.


In fact, the force that really saved Iraq was ISOF and it's the force with literally zero connections to Iran. It's the closest to an American force you find in Iraq, all that of course you don't mention. Qasem Soleimani who is a grandpa by now touring the battlefield has conquered IS with his cosmic powers.
You're just talking BS. How was the ISOF able to stop ISIS from closing in on Baghdad? Iran DID organize your incompetent, demoralized, leftover forces to block ISIS from running over your capital. Interesting how people like you have forgotten so fast already.

Iran aided Iraq, correct. Just like dozens of other states aided Iraq. Iran did so out of self-interests first and foremost as we're a neighbor and it gave them a chance to re-spawn dozens of Hezbollahi militia's which they successfully did so.
Everybody helped Iraq, yes, but how many actually saved Iraq from anarchy? Iran primarily. Your incompetence allowed them respawn Hezbollahis, thats the fact.

This statement 'dropped their weapons and ran like little bi.tches' shows animosity you have which is the same reason Iraqis are feeling anger towards Iran. If you think that all that doesn't matter and that you dictate Iraq then again you're wrong, it's not that simple. Reality is not the hyper-inflated value of people like Soleimani, likewise the Kurds were inflated by the media until they got trashed.
But Iraqis DID drop their weapons and run like bytches though! thats the truth! but the truth hurts, so you denying that confirms its the inconvenient truth.

I don't agree with burning consulates but it's a good thing they burn Hezbollahi HQ's. We don't need that shit.
You dont need that shit, thats true, but Iran does, and you cant do anything serious about it, since your country is politically and militarily incompetent and cant get its sh*t together. You already knew Iran was an "enemy"from the long war, and you still naively let that same enemy in. Go blame yourselves. Tbh, this issue isnt even personal. the simple fact is that Iraq is too disorganized, stressed and fractured to even outplay Iran right now. Iran will bid its time, capitalize on Iraq's errors and vulnerabilities and move in more after these weak protestors go home.

The problem with Iranian influence in Iraq is that Iran isn't exactly in a great situation to be wanting that influence, no sane person in Iraq is waiting to join the isolated axis of resistance to do all the work for Iran with those 10 Hezbollahi militias. The country remains a whole due to the Iraqis that died, not Iran which sold some weapons that could have been acquired from anywhere. Your ego is inflated as well which I understand given all the hype from the media, you can operate by that or get back to reality as Kurds did once they realized their image doesn't align with reality.
The only problem with Iran's influence is that Iraq cant get its crap together. REgional and world powers are looking to take their slice of the Iraqi pie and you guys arent cutting their hands off. Fix your internal problems and these enemies will be weakened permanently. Victim psychology wont help you. Like Netanyahu recently said - "weak countries get destroyed and only the strong survive".
 
What a moronic reply. You mentioned the Kurds so I educated you.

Those experts are in a far better position to talk about the situation than some kid on a forum like you. I am meant to believe an ex-intelligence officer in the US knows less than you?:lol: Forget the fact there are Iraqis on the panel too. Furthermore, the rest of those videos are showing actual officials talk about the matter, you clearly did not even watch them.

It seems I am the one educating you given I am the one posting evidence for everything I am saying. Go back to sleep kid.

US saved the Kurds ultimately and on the grand-scale. Iran helped the Kurds in the north east on a small scale.

They're paid to take a stance, especially western analysts with no loyalty to any of the causes. I know haider al khoei on the board who is in the video you posted, he's reliable.

LOL, use your mind instead of just relying on other people's words. You have access to worlds greatest library. Those western analysts do not know that much, infact they do not know the details I know. Which i'm not bragging about, it's just that they are not as interested given that it's not their country.

Who else should have died FOR Iraq in Iraq? Iranians? Why should they? Take responsibility for your situation!Can you provide evidence Iran sold weapons at a "higher price" to Iraq? Afterall, your army way completely useless with all the high quality(and expensive)US weapons you already bought? Iraq's military infrastructiure was just incompetent. accept it.



You're just talking BS. How was the ISOF able to stop ISIS from closing in on Baghdad? Iran DID organize your incompetent, demoralized, leftover forces to block ISIS from running over your capital. Interesting how people like you have forgotten so fast already.


Everybody helped Iraq, yes, but how many actually saved Iraq from anarchy? Iran primarily. Your incompetence allowed them respawn Hezbollahis, thats the fact.


But Iraqis DID drop their weapons and run like bytches though! thats the truth! but the truth hurts, so you denying that confirms its the inconvenient truth.


You dont need that shit, thats true, but Iran does, and you cant do anything serious about it, since your country is politically and militarily incompetent and cant get its sh*t together. You already knew Iran was an "enemy"from the long war, and you still naively let that same enemy in. Go blame yourselves. Tbh, this issue isnt even personal. the simple fact is that Iraq is too disorganized, stressed and fractured to even outplay Iran right now. Iran will bid its time, capitalize on Iraq's errors and vulnerabilities and move in more after these weak protestors go home.


The only problem with Iran's influence is that Iraq cant get its crap together. REgional and world powers are looking to take their slice of the Iraqi pie and you guys arent cutting their hands off. Fix your internal problems and these enemies will be weakened permanently. Victim psychology wont help you. Like Netanyahu recently said - "weak countries get destroyed and only the strong survive".

Baiji oil refinery was besieged by IS for 1 year, only ISOF inside held it. As for the PMU, the 'PMU umbrella' to centralize it under gov command is an initiative by Baghdad. Iran's initiative was funding and arming 20+ militia's led by many people which is a cancer to any central state. Might as well dissolve the IRGC and create a Hezbollah unit for every region led by some mullah with his own views.

I'm not playing victim, i'm telling you Iran's influence in Iraq is negative. Where is the complaining? You're very pro Iran regime and your entire criticism revolves around that. Don't listen to me, look at Iraq's Shias and their opinions. If you think you're so right proceed with this policy, you end up finding nothing but hostility in Iraq.

But Iraqis DID drop their weapons and run like bytches though! thats the truth! but the truth hurts, so you denying that confirms its the inconvenient truth.
Your point? Afterwards they fought and reclaimed it. Kurds used this to bash the Iraqis and make fun of us lol, they elevated their image in the western world until the trashing 1 year ago. I knew all along that they were incompetent.

The problem with Iran is not only that they interfere, it's that Iran itself has little good to offer. It's ruled by retards. Iraqis are protesting not against Iran, but against Iraqi parties tied to Iran. The likes of Nouri al Maliki oversaw the creation of the pre-2014 Iraqi army which was untrained in conventional warfare, Maliki is on Iran's side. If Iran is so great then Maliki's Iraq is the product of great Iran, which was not so great now was it?

I guess I should indeed learn about internal matters from a Nigerian and some other foreigners who think they know better. This meddling will cause the Iran allied axis to take heavy hits in several ways. First the US will only prop up the army more to outweigh the PMU which they can and second the animosity against the Iranian regime grows in Iraq when they live in a shithole situation that is largely influenced by Iran.
 
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For first step to remind Iraqis about the reality , we can deny them from entering Iran and buy their need with 1/7 actual price in Iraq and specially 'Basra' ....
Good point,
Basra citizens are coming inside Iran borders and buy Iranian goods for 1/7 price of same good in Iraq and in respond we got this.
I can not understand them, their electricity come from Iran but they did this, last time we cut their electricity b/c they did not paid Iran the price. we can also cut their electricity as well.

However I think we must not punish all, for small group of people, that is what Americans/Saudis want Iran to do.
 
Some Iraqis love America like God. It reminds me the “Golden calf worshipping” of jews.

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US saved the Kurds ultimately and on the grand-scale. Iran helped the Kurds in the north east on a small scale.

They're paid to take a stance, especially western analysts with no loyalty to any of the causes. I know haider al khoei on the board who is in the video you posted, he's reliable.

LOL, use your mind instead of just relying on other people's words. You have access to worlds greatest library. Those western analysts do not know that much, infact they do not know the details I know. Which i'm not bragging about, it's just that they are not as interested given that it's not their country.



Baiji oil refinery was besieged by IS for 1 year, only ISOF inside held it. As for the PMU, the 'PMU umbrella' to centralize it under gov command is an initiative by Baghdad. Iran's initiative was funding and arming 20+ militia's led by many people which is a cancer to any central state. Might as well dissolve the IRGC and create a Hezbollah unit for every region led by some mullah with his own views.

I'm not playing victim, i'm telling you Iran's influence in Iraq is negative. Where is the complaining? You're very pro Iran regime and your entire criticism revolves around that. Don't listen to me, look at Iraq's Shias and their opinions. If you think you're so right proceed with this policy, you end up finding nothing but hostility in Iraq.


Your point? Afterwards they fought and reclaimed it. Kurds used this to bash the Iraqis and make fun of us lol, they elevated their image in the western world until the trashing 1 year ago. I knew all along that they were incompetent.

The problem with Iran is not only that they interfere, it's that Iran itself has little good to offer. It's ruled by retards. Iraqis are protesting not against Iran, but against Iraqi parties tied to Iran. The likes of Nouri al Maliki oversaw the creation of the pre-2014 Iraqi army which was untrained in conventional warfare, Maliki is on Iran's side. If Iran is so great then Maliki's Iraq is the product of great Iran, which was not so great now was it?

I guess I should indeed learn about internal matters from a Nigerian and some other foreigners who think they know better. This meddling will cause the Iran allied axis to take heavy hits in several ways. First the US will only prop up the army more to outweigh the PMU which they can and second the animosity against the Iranian regime grows in Iraq when they live in a shithole situation that is largely influenced by Iran.

Take a hike kid and don't waste my time. You obviously think I am going to take the word of some potential terrorist over actual official and intelligence officers etc. You've not provided a single fact to back any of your claims.

Sorry to say, but no one buys your fantasies.
 

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