KingMamba
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Civilization is not based on conquest alone, many empires have come and gone but not all have been credited with starting a civilization. Science during the Islamic golden age was widespread and well established, in fact many Indians and Greeks also flocked to Muslim cities that were places of learning to participate in the sciences. This is well documented and you have even mentioned it below.
You are right to point out that India did have scientific achievements in the ancient era, but to claim that Rolles theorem or Damascus steel originated in India first and therefore are Indians achievements is logically false. Even if Indians thought of it first credit usually goes to those who push forward the idea, example being if I had thought of creating facebook but never shared my plans then on what basis will I make claims that I should be given credit for facebook? Likewise while Indian scientists played their part they usually kept their knowledge to themselves and only when others like the Muslims took an interest and called them to their cities did the knowledge make its way to the rest of the world. I think this has to do with the Hindu belief that crossing the Indus would make one impure. Oh and the claim that there was no way for Indians to transmitt knowledge to Europe without bypassing Arabs is false, ancient Indian kingdoms actually had maritime trade relations even with the Romans themselves. Not to mention contact with the Persians who at point controlled all the lands from Persia to the Mediterranean. Indians themselves chose not to share this knowledge.
Fair enough and ironic that Muslims wiped out the knowledge in India proper but other Muslims helped spread the same knowledge elsewhere.
Revisionism at its finest. Nobody is buying that caste system has nothing to do with Hinduism. Also the caste system you mention amongst Muslims and Christians is only found amongst Indian Muslims if anything and is a carry over from Hinduism itself, baraderiis is a chiefly Punjabi Muslim thing and has nothing to do with caste. It has more to do with heritage and only used to come into play during marriage which is itself changing.
Again this is incorrect, look at Cholas who did spread their influence beyond into Indonesia if you want to go by your own fellow Tamil accounts. The only reason other Indians, namely North Indians did not expand westward is because they were too busy fighting one another, and second the fact that crossing the Indus was seen as impure.
Fair enough.
The background is irrelevant the violence itself is what matters. That being said while Indians police did make arrests in connection to the train burning which went unnoticed due to the severity of the violence that followed, most people would have let the law play out but Hindus resorted to targeting Muslims who had nothing to do with the train burning. That being said 200 Hindus also lost their lives unfortunately so the Muslims must have fought back in kind.
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