Iranian Chill Thread

[Bengal71]

don't look like soldier to me , too overweight

https://twitter.com/x/status/1718027851033673810

 

[Bengal71]

It does not serve either side to acknowledge this. Everything you see in this regard is ‘playing house’. They know we know they know we have devices.

…and the charade goes on.

JCPOA saga was too elaborate to be a charade.

 

[Blue In Green]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1725127005878800600

Hmm… I guess there isn’t much to worry about if this is accurate.

USN wouldn’t operate a CSG that close to the Iranian coastline if they had thought hostilities were imminent. Must’ve gotten some sort of assurances from Iran for safe operation and passage.

 

[HGV]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1725127005878800600

Hmm… I guess there isn’t much to worry about if this is accurate.

hopefully we get some nice drone footage of it soon

 

[tsunset]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1725127005878800600

Hmm… I guess there isn’t much to worry about if this is accurate.

USN wouldn’t operate a CSG that close to the Iranian coastline if they had thought hostilities were imminent. Must’ve gotten some sort of assurances from Iran for safe operation and passage.

as sun tzu said... When the carriers goes far away this is when you have to worry...

 

[DoubleYouSee]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1718027851033673810

Death dance

 

[Shapur Zol Aktaf]

Do you know Israel sold arms to Iran during the Iran-Iraq war? History is not as black and white as you picture it.

The Palestinian cause while righteous and noble is hypocritical when you suppress the Kurdish movement in Iraq, Syria, and Turkey. While you stay silent on China’s purging of Muslims in the west.

That hypocritical stance makes Iran no different than the west. Where they tout freedom in one area (Ukraine) and sovereignty in another (Israel).

So no, I don’t think making Israel the number #1 enemy was necessity, just borne out of religious fervor of 1979 revolution. By the time it abated (natural as movements modernize over time) Iran had boxed itself in a zero sum game.

Iran has the 2nd largest Jewish population. Iran protected the Jews in WW2 by getting them coded as Aryans by Nazi Germany. So this idea we have something against Jewish people is not rooted in reality.

I do think pragmatic approaches could have been taken that would have advanced the Palestinian cause much more efficiently. Iran could have offered attractive gas and oil terms to Israel for 50-100 years and a security guarantee from its side in order to secure Gaza and West Bank as permanent statehood’s in the 90’s. Syria could have offered similar in return for Golan heights and Sheba farms would be shared between Lebanon and Israel.

Israel did approach Iran multiple times since the 90’s for a detente pact. Iran didn’t bother to even respond.

Israel is not an existential threat for Iran. Saudi Arabia and Wahhabism is a greater threat than Israel will ever be as we saw in Syria. The recent rise of Pan-Turkic nationalism across the Middle East is also concerning for Iran. Israel doesn’t have enough population or logistics to challenge Iran. Meanwhile its demographics are undergoing liberalization and arabization. Time is not on its side.

People think a country of 6M (excluding Gaza and West Bank) is going to steamroll across the Middle East if left unchecked. It’s laughable.

What makes Israel difference than uygur situation is that Israel is a neo-crusaders state.. from where they can invade and expand into middle east.

 

[TheImmortal]

USN wouldn’t operate a CSG that close to the Iranian coastline if they thought hostilities were imminent. Must’ve gotten assurances from Iran that they were safe to enter and operate (?).

You think pragmatic Iran would ever pre emptively attack a carrier battle group? There’s over 7,000 US soldiers in those groups.

You are talking 3x+ the casualties of Pearl Harbor. You might as well just ask to get bombed into the Stone Age at that point.

Zero point zero chance Iran would ever do that pre-emptively with zero provocation. Neither would China or Russia.

If you sink a battle group, you better be ready for WW3 because no ceasefire is coming without a wave of devastation rained down in return. Which will make it hard for the provocateur (Iran or China) to then back down, thus more punches thrown by each side.

 

[jauk]

JCPOA saga was too elaborate to be a charade.

Charades by very definition are elaborate. A ‘simple charade’ is a contradiction in terms.

 

[TheImmortal]

If I'm remembering correctly, Reagen did try to improve relations after the revolution through mutual anti-Communism but was rejected. Although no one could say how long they would have lasted. Once the USSR fell relations may have worsened again.

Ironically it was Rouhani (at the time) that was tasked to meet with US (and Israeli) diplomats to see if there could be a detente and re-alliance in the time after the revolution. Reagan was open to it as was US deep state. But it all fell apart and the Americans left and never came back.

Iran helped Lebanese resistance groups with Beruit Bombing in ‘83 and that effectively put both sides against each other for good. Iraq war didn’t help.

So missteps on both sides. Here we are 40 years later.

China approach to the US was much more pragmatic (and successful) than Iran’s failed “neither East nor west” approach in the 90’s and early 00’s. By the time Iran attempted pragmatic diplomacy (2001+) the neocons were in power and anti Iranian sentiment started rising within US congress.

 

[jauk]

Ironically it was Rouhani (at the time) that was tasked to meet with US (and Israeli) diplomats to see if there could be a detente and re-alliance in the time after the revolution. Reagan was open to it as was US deep state. But it all fell apart and the Americans left and never came back.

Iran helped Lebanese resistance groups with Beruit Bombing in ‘83 and that effectively put both sides against each other for good. Iraq war didn’t help.

So missteps on both sides. Here we are 40 years later.

China approach to the US was much more pragmatic (and successful) than Iran’s failed “neither East nor west” approach in the 90’s and early 00’s. By the time Iran attempted pragmatic diplomacy (2001+) the neocons were in power and anti Iranian sentiment started rising within US congress.

Good!

 

[Mehdipersian]

From the beginning of the Al-Aqsa storm operation, Israel introduced Shafa Hospital as a strategic military objective and considered its capture necessary.



The spokesman of the army and the minister of war of this regime also announced that the Zionist prisoners in the hands of Hamas are kept in the basement of this hospital (which is located on the western edge of Gaza) and the headquarters of Hamas, including the residence of Yahya Sanwar, is also there.



Hamas's intelligence protection functioned very well and caused Israel to be confused and instead of discovering and destroying the main military headquarters of the resistance, it spent its time, manpower and armor on a militarily worthless target.



Just today (November 25), a large number of rockets were fired from Gaza towards the occupied territories, which shows that Israel failed to strike a strategic blow to the Hamas military organization.



After taking control of the Shafa hospital (despite the international condemnation and the publicity blow it suffered), the Zionist army could not prove any of its claims and therefore tried to show its defeat by showing 10 Kalashnikovs and a number of grenades. to justify



Israel, after receiving a heavy information blow after this incident and realizing that none of the soldiers are in Shefa hospital, has now noticed the city of Khan Yunis in the south of Gaza and demanded the evacuation of 4 neighborhoods in order to find a sign of soldiers. / Sabrin

 

[TheImmortal]

“China has no plans to surpass or unseat the United States, and the United States should not scheme to suppress or contain China,” Xi said, according to a readout released by China’s state news agency Xinhua.”


Great group of guys Iran signed a 25 year “strategic” pact with.

 

[thesaint]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1725158418921525448

https://twitter.com/x/status/1725184440488394809

 

[thesaint]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1725191203203780984

https://twitter.com/x/status/1725161292518896042