Iranian Chill Thread

[shadihassan28]

It could be a firearm or it could be a taser. Regardless, every police officer needs to be armed for their own safety and those of the public.

One of the arrested may very well have a knife or firearm concealed under their clothes and simply enticed the police to bring about such a situation in order to kill them.

As the head of police explained, 90% of the girls just get a verbal notification, then 9% will get to wan and after a small talk are released. 1% whose clothes are too revealing will be transferred to Police station till their family bring them proper clothes.

We are not US in which Police forces empty 60 bullets in the body of an unarmed guy. our problem in Iran isn't why police has gun, but rather why Police doesn't use the gun!

during the past months, there has been several cases in which Police hesitated to use his gun and was injured or martyred by armed criminals.

Totally agree unarmed civilians getting killed anywhere is wrong, including Iran,Palestine,Bahrain,Saudi Arabia,Egypt the list goes on America is farrrrrr from perfect but at least if a police officer does kill someone with excessive force they sometimes see their day incourt, your telling me all the protesters who got killed in the street all had guns knives etc, excessive force wasn’t used at times, regardless of what really happened to the girl I honestly don’t know and you an i will probably never know, and I’m not following state run news because they’re paid to only have the narrative of the state.

 

[raptor22]

Actually, not having Islamic Hijabi is considered a crime and has up to 2 months of prison or a cash fine. so Police can arrest them.

dastour.ir/brows/?lid=162770#

so while Iranian police can send these people to prison, but threats them very softly.

Nowhere in the world there is EMS in the police station, and there will never be. if the person in custody feels seek, then police calls for ambulance, as has happened in this case. Medical council expressed the adequateof CPR in early minutes, but it doesn't mean Police has to host an EMS in it's station.

The verdict gotta be given by judge and court of law not police, which in plain English means police could only notify the judiciary system of such a crime and then court could make its decision to send the accused to jail or fine is enough not to mention even in that time the verdict could be be reviewed and reconsidered by accused.
As I said 638 is category 8 and even temporary detention is not permissible for it.
When you prevent a person from his or her activity and take them to the somewhere then it means you have detained them therefore heath , life and well-being of detainee is on the detainer be it EMS or anything else,

 

[lydian fall]

Of course. Here you go:

* User Falcon29 issuing a death threat against another member (see last line):

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* User "Falcon29" issuing a death threat against myself (in the middle of the second paragraph, literally states "I am going to kill you"):

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* The way user "Falcon29" has been commenting about Shia Moslems (while actually addressing a Sunni Algerian member, whom he randomly labels as 'Shia' just because he has a different political opinion):

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* Another example of user "Falcon29"'s sectarianist drivel against Shia Moslems:

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* So maniacal is the user about Shia Moslems, and so quick to fallaciously attribute non-existing identities to others, that he did not even shy away from asserting this forum is "run by Shias", despite the patience moderators have shown towards his innumerable violations of rules. Along with another example of his typical bile against Iranians:

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* User "Falcon29" dehumanizing Shia Moslems and advocating genocide against the Iranian male population, unless they convert to Sunni Islam:

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Allow me to offer indisputable proof that I never did so, brother.

Below you may access every single instance of me mentioning Hamas on this forum:

https://defence.pk/pdf/search/57592351/?q=Hamas&c[users]=SalarHaqq&o=relevance

If you find anything other than praise on my part about Hamas, or anything other than me defending them, please let me know.

@SalarHaqq please provide the links of your screenshots and express your issues to Mr. @waz

 

[SalarHaqq]

@SalarHaqq please provide the links of your screenshots and express your issues to Mr. @waz

Did so.

waz

defence.pk

@waz @LeGenD @Irfan Baloch @Amaa'n

Please find below the latest examples of ongoing, unprovoked harassment:

Lately the troll has been derailing sticky threads in the section (like the one dedicated to Iranian UAV's), and as so often resorted to racialist insults against Iranians:

Yeah Irani haywaan, neutral until Assad terrorist Israel protecting regime came and murdered a Hamas official in Damascus. You're an Iranian uncivilized piece of shit that doesn't accept facts regardless.

Link: https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/iranian-uavs-news-and-discussions.228310/post-14018164

Everyone's invited to report the above abuse.

 

[lydian fall]

Did so.

waz

defence.pk

Latest examples of ongoing harassment:

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Lately the troll has been derailing sticky threads in the section (like the one dedicated to Iranian UAV's), and resorted to racialist insults against Iranians once again:



Link: https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/iranian-uavs-news-and-discussions.228310/post-14018164

Everyone's invited to report the above abuse.

He calls Iranians Haywan (animals), talking about chopping heads of Iranians

He is a daeshi troll @hazzy97

Yet he doesn't get banned...

 

[SalarHaqq]

Israel , will give it if it was in their benefit

The occupation regime (there's no legitimate state by the name Israel today) does not grant entry to ordinary Iranians who supposedly fear for their safety because of media accusations. Tel Aviv does not consider such a policy to be to its benefit. So there has to be moret to it.

and just consider it did he seek asylum before attacks on him by certain medias or after it .

If he was an agent of foreign services engaging in covert actions against national security, why would he flee before his cover is blown?

its easy to fix the head scarf yes but as you assume that she wore the scarf in another fashion . I ask you to provide the police video of capture time ,that show the scarf put on his head in another fashion . its just another of useless claim made after some ingenious decide to say she eat poison to commit suicide.

As long as there's no evidence, any assertion in this regard will represent guesswork, and can't therefore be portrayed as fact.

police just need publish the body camera , videos , its impossible , they didn't have them with them she and her border came out of metro at the time . when you leave train at Haqqani Station until you leave station itself (when she arrested) you at least will be recorded 10 times on cameras , why they cant provide those videos to show how immodest she was at time of arrest

What do I know, potentially there could be hundreds of possible reasons why such footage wasn't released to date.

 

[thesaint]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1578483397558554624

https://twitter.com/x/status/1578610028244000768

 

[lydian fall]

The occupation regime (there's no legitimate state by the name Israel today) does not grant entry to ordinary Iranians who supposedly fear for their safety because of media accusations. Tel Aviv does not consider such a policy to be to its benefit. So there has to be moret to it.

True.

Naser Oliayi says at Shah time in our country almost half of the company/factory owners were Jewish

 

[mohsen]

The verdict gotta be given by judge and court of law not police, which in plain English means police could only notify the judiciary system of such a crime and then court could make its decision to send the accused to jail or fine is enough not to mention even in that time the verdict could be be reviewed and reconsidered by accused.
As I said 638 is category 8 and even temporary detention is not permissible for it.
When you prevent a person from his or her activity and take them to the somewhere then it means you have detained them therefore heath , life and well-being of detainee is on the detainer be it EMS or anything else,

1. It's you who don't understand the meaning of temporary detention, if it was a temporary detention, then they couldn't get out of police station few minutes or hours later.

2. So what if the criminal has no documents with him, then police has to let it go!!?? no, the procedure is that when Police notices a crime of any level, he or she will be transferred to Police station and a file will be created for him or she in there.

3.If the criminal refuses to cooperate or provide the documents, then Police will contact the judge and his/her (temporary) detention warrant will be issued immediately.

Police is not a hospital, EMS will be called upon necessity.

 

[SalarHaqq]

This is just beyond hilarious LOL Putin Shia Birthday celebration special

https://twitter.com/x/status/1578484999942131712

This seems to be Iraqi accent if I'm not mistaken.

In fact, it's been some years since our Iraqi brothers began amicably referring to President Putin as "Hajj Putin", or as an honorary "Shia" of sorts - of course this represents friendly off-beat humor and is to be understood figuratively.

However it definitely reflects the genuine, grassroots popular enthusiasm that the Russian Federation and President Putin have been enjoying as local partners of the anti-imperialist Resistance front in the region since 2014, when Moscow opted to join forces with the Resistance in Syria and lent military support in defeating zionist- and NATO-sponsored terrorist groups.

As soon as Russia entered the Syrian theater against "I"SIS terrorists, President Vladimirovich Putin's popularity literally skyrocketed among Iraqis.

A news report from 2015 by the AFP:

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Popularity of 'Putin the Shiite' sky high in Iraq​

Iraqi artist Mohammed Karim Nihaya touches up a painting of Russian President Vladimir Putin in his studio in the Karada district of Baghdad on October 7, 2015 (AFP Photo/Sabah Arar)

Jean-Marc Mojon with Raji Nasser in Najaf
October 8, 2015

https://news.yahoo.com/popularity-putin-shiite-sky-high-iraq-093642221.html

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At any rate the recent video on the Ukraine crisis represents an enjoyable expression of solidarity with Russia.

 

[mohsen]

your telling me all the protesters who got killed in the street all had guns knives etc

There are literally US-organized murderers and terrorists killing people in streets, there are tons of clips in which these so called protestors attack and kill opposing civilians, even killing passing by civilians, burning their assets, etc. I pay taxes and I expect police to provide my security in the streets.

Also our police can't use military bullets against protestors, almost all the dead are the victims of these US backed terrorists who want to inflame the riots through showing their corpses.

In the case of this girl, US propaganda machine said she was beaten to death, but police published the camera footage showing she faints in the class room, neither her terrorist family, nor anybody else has been able to provide a single sign of injury or head damage. they just an excuse for ongoing riots.

 

[SalarHaqq]

True.

Naser Oliayi says at Shah time in our country almost half of the company/factory owners were Jewish

Indeed brother. Under the ousted Pahlavi regime, zionists and associated elites from the Haifan Bahai organization and freemason lodges, used to dominate Iran from top to bottom: they had the banking sector, the media and major industries under their thumb, not to mention their deep encroachment onto political institutions but above all, onto the regime's security apparatus.

Let's not forget that SAVAK, the shah's secret police and intelligence service, was set up by none other than Mossad, the CIA and MI6. What this meant, was that these foreign-linked networks and interest groups had effectively deprived Iran of her sovereignty. The much vaunted Iranian military, which the regime was allocating staggering shares of the national budget to, was not just dependent on foreign support but was also placed at the service of those same imperialist, oppressive powers. Powers which kept treating Iran as a second rate, subservient vassal.

What the 1979 Islamic Revolution under the Leadership of Imam Khomeini (r.) achieved can never be repeated often enough: the historic uprising of the Iranian people under the banner of Islam completely cut off the claws of zionist and western imperialists from Iran, restored Iranian independence and thereby established a precedent which to this day has been serving as a vivid source of inspiration for liberation movements and nations of the global south, and even beyond, for the oppressed masses in western countries themselves.

Hence the existential enmity of the zio-American empire against the Islamic Republic of Iran, whose endless manifestations we are witnessing on a daily basis.

 

[BlessedKingOfLonging]

There are literally US-organized murderers and terrorists killing people in streets, there are tons of clips in which these so called protestors attack and kill opposing civilians, even killing passing by civilians, burning their assets, etc. I pay taxes and I expect police to provide my security in the streets.

Also our police can't use military bullets against protestors, almost all the dead are the victims of these US backed terrorists who want to inflame the riots through showing their corpses.

In the case of this girl, US propaganda machine said she was beaten to death, but police published the camera footage showing she faints in the class room, neither her terrorist family, nor anybody else has been able to provide a single sign of injury or head damage. they just an excuse for ongoing riots.

What's with the cases of Nika Shakarami and Sarina Esmailzadeh, though?

It does strike me as strange that the protesters and rioters are so young this time around.

 

[Hack-Hook]

The occupation regime (there's no legitimate state by the name Israel today) does not grant entry to ordinary Iranians who supposedly fear for their safety because of media accusations. Tel Aviv does not consider such a policy to be to its benefit. So there has to be moret to it.

not to ordinary people , but sometimes domestically make some mistake and be assured they never let a single mistake pass , here we made a mistake on attacking wrong people and they saw an opportunity on scoring brownie by portraying themselves as supporters of oppressed and wronged Iranian
that was a gift we gave them in fact every time ahmadi-nejad opened his mouth without thinking twice before it was a gift to Israel
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If he was an agent of foreign services engaging in covert actions against national security, why would he flee before his cover is blown?

again conspiracy theory and blaming others unjustly
thats how our media own goal us

As long as there's no evidence, any assertion in this regard will represent guesswork, and can't therefore be portrayed as fact.

but what about she ate poison , or her body was filled with drugs while in fact she only had a benign tumor surgery at the age of 6-7 and probably she only used anticonvulsant drugs and even that was probably wes being tapered at this time.
what about her being komoleh member ? how about claiming her cover was in another form , her older photos are available can tell us about how she was wearing clothes more importantly how you think a kurd girl wear clothes while accompanied by his brother

What do I know, potentially there could be hundreds of possible reasons why such footage wasn't released to date

well why if her clothes was so strange and out of norm , wouldn't publishing them showed police was right on arresting her and not what i called another case executing law based how the law enforcer feel , thats one of our chronic problem
another explanation i came with is she was with her brother , probably they were walking side by side and were talking and laughing , the police didn't consider they may be brother and sister and taught the nature of their relation is different they went to arrest them and when they understood their relation , they didn't want to step back (this happens in fact the exact thing happened with me and my mother when i was 14 in Shiraz amusement park ) they probably say let not admit we were wrong that make us look bad, we will take her to station and get a keep here 2 hours there let she sit at one of those useless class and release her whats the harm .

 

[Hack-Hook]

2. So what if the criminal has no documents with him, then police has to let it go!!?? no, the procedure is that when Police notices a crime of any level, he or she will be transferred to Police station and a file will be created for him or she in there.

i recall when in such case police used to confiscate , student card of girl university students , and told them to come tomorrow and get it back without even considering that without that card they won't allow the girl into dormitory and she only have two option 1 stay on street all the night (and guess how cold can that be in Iran northern half) or find somebody who take her home and you also can guess what they probably want of her (and don't tell me that would not happened i myself twice saw girls begging them not to take that card and take something else to no avail)
all they need to do if they wanted an identification is taking a photo of the card . or if they wanted a physical evidence take one of her banking cards . there are many ways but we usually opt for some we think is obvious without thinking about consequences

3.If the criminal refuses to cooperate or provide the documents, then Police will contact the judge and his/her (temporary) detention warrant will be issued immediately.

there is one way that police don't need judge order for arrest and that id the crime that is happening in public (جرم واضح حالا هر جوری شما ترجمه اش میکنی ) in that case there is no need for judge order for arrest , the police can arrest the offender and then send the documents to judge later and then they decide what to do

by the way its 10-15 year hat is very hard to find person with no identification as all banking transaction become electronics

What's with the cases of Nika Shakarami and Sarina Esmailzadeh, though?

It does strike me as strange that the protesters and rioters are so young this time around.

whats strange , they have energy , their value are different from the ones of their grandfathers who do the revolution , and they have time as the job market is not so spectacular for various reasons and ...