Iranian Chill Thread

[Muhammad Saftain Anjum]

All of that is hypothetical anyways.

Yes we can only speculate.
US war style has become very complex actually.
They engage their enemies in long term war and bleed them mainly economically.
For example,they got you involved in to endless wars.They will not defeat you nor will allow you to win and you will spend money day and night
Similarly Russia has got involved in Ukraine.It will be crushed economically so that Russia will not remain technological enemy of US anymore

US will wait for China to attack on Taiwan and there US will bleed China with out involving directly in war.

US war style is brutal and effects countries and their people for decades to come.

 

[Cancerous Tumor]

Double agent


In Iran the largest employer is government itself . And after that semi governmental agencies . And certainly all the people who were employed there have paid their tax to the last rial .

Iranians pay at least 3 types of taxes.

1.Directly ( government employees every month or bazaries every year )
2.When you buy something with your bank card.
3.Inflation (unofficial tax)

 

[jauk]

Yes we can only speculate.
US war style has become very complex actually.
They engage their enemies in long term war and bleed them mainly economically.
For example,they got you involved in to endless wars.They will not defeat you nor will allow you to win and you will spend money day and night
Similarly Russia has got involved in Ukraine.It will be crushed economically so that Russia will not remain technological enemy of US anymore

US will wait for China to attack on Taiwan and there US will bleed China with out involving directly in war.

US war style is brutal and effects countries and their people for decades to come.

The effects of that 'style' is substantially culled once the dollar is dismantled. Today, the US is at a point where even with the unhindered printing of dollars there's considerable blowback to the economy (i.e all the printing--from 2008 more or less--affectionately known as QE(x) or COVID relief etc...etc...). The US Fed has started the process of taking these 'off their books'--ergo the sudden inflation, bond and equity market shocks, continued shattering impact on real estate value , etc, etc. Couple these innate market failures with the counter-affects of the operations in Ukraine (gas, wheat, etc) and you will see the only tools left to the US for the foreseeable future are proxy wars. Although Ukraine is a bad example given the blowback to wider US and global economies.

I do question, however, why or why not China does not take this moment to reabsorb Taiwan. Naively it sesms to be an opportune moment. Given China has not, one can conclude China believes the 'moment' will be even better later which is a harbinger of interesting times to come.

 

[jauk]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1526157522352193540

 

[OldTwilight]

You guys need to make up your mind:

Am I paid Zionist American Agent secretly plotting the demise of Iran

Or am I paid Islamic Republic Basij secretly propping up the regime

You are both , because ISI is Zionist American lovers who bent to crush Iran and Iranians ...

شهرام ناظری: خوانندگان سنتی ما جرات نکردند به شاهنامه و فردوسی نزدیک شوند

امروز ۲۵ اردیبهشت و روز فردوسی است؛ به همین مناسبت، گفت‌وگوی شهرام ناظری با خبرآنلاین را که در تاریخ ۲۴ اردیبهشت ۱۳۹۲ منتشر شده، باز نشر کرده‌ایم.

www.khabaronline.ir

in past 40 years there was steady stream of Iranian wealth transformation to the western countries by ISI agents

ISI ... so call Islamic state of Iran ...

 

[sha ah]

Honestly plain handouts are not sustainable and often lead to more inflation. The best option is to yes, give some limited handouts to the poorest of the poor, but at the same time spend any surplus on helping people find work, creating employment opportunities through investment, offering marginalized / unemployed people a chance to get job training, which will increase their employment opportunities.

All oil,gas and large mines belong to our people.if companies help to develop one of them they may take a little share(based on their contract). The rest belongs to people and government decides to how distribute this wealth based on permissions and rules of law(parliament).

Last week Mr Raisy said during his TV interview we studied about it and talked to experts there are a lot of concerns but it's the law and we should go for it.At the same time he said if anyone knows any better plan just tell us .

Iran's case is a rare one you know story of sanctions and resistant economy.since it's number one economy sometimes plus EU vs number 20th economy of world our options were limited.It's a path chosen by necessity.of cours corruption could be main side effect of such a path.

 

[sha ah]

I don't understand why the government decided to completely remove subsidies at a time when wheat prices are soaring all over the world and the region is experiencing droughts. If they wanted to remove the subsidies why not do it gradually ? More importantly what are they going to do to fix this mess ?

 

[TheImmortal]

I don't understand why the government decided to completely remove subsidies

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when wheat prices are soaring all over the world

Literally just answered your own question.

 

[Oldman1]

Why would the rate of fire remain the same throughout when static targets were already destroyed within the first few weeks. Target bank would've already been cleared by now.

All targets from this point on are new targets whether they'd be makeshift runways for drone/aircraft take offs or supply depots etc... Hence, the usage declines substantially.

And yet we see them targeting static targets from the beginning that were not destroyed early in the war. So they are not new.

 

[TheImmortal]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1526340360737366016

 

[sha ah]

With all the recent oil sales, I'm sure that the government could have kept the subsidies in place if they really wanted to. They kept the subsidies in place during the entire Iran-Iraq war.

Also why did they not remove the subsidies gradually ? Wheat prices have doubled since last year and in some countries the price has gone up 30%. A 10 fold increase for the price of flour, and 3 fold increase for the price of food in general is too much of a shock for society. I cannot understand the logic behind this move at this time.

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Literally just answered your own question.

 

[sha ah]

The Azov battalion at Azovstal have basically surrendered. Zelensky is not calling it a surrender though. He's saying that he ordered them to cease their military operation. LOL

Russia lost 70+ military vehicles in a failed river crossing. I don't buy all the purge rumors from Ukraine but someone definitely f3cked up large.

Today Russia claims to have killed more than 350 Ukrainian troops, destroyed more than 70 armored vehicles and shot down several fighter jets of the Ukrainian airforce. This is a high intensity conflict, a proxy war between Russia and NATO.

https://s2.cdnstatic.space/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/16may2022_Ukraine_map.jpg

 

[Raghfarm007]

With all the recent oil sales, I'm sure that the government could have kept the subsidies in place if they really wanted to. They kept the subsidies in place during the entire Iran-Iraq war.

Also why did they not remove the subsidies gradually ? Wheat prices have doubled since last year and in some countries the price has gone up 30%. A 10 fold increase for the price of flour, and 3 fold increase for the price of food in general is too much of a shock for society. I cannot understand the logic behind this move at this time.

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They are not taking away the subsedies..... they are giving the money directly to the people, instead of the induesties.....

Too much of the subsedised goods were being smuggled to neighbouring countries, where they dont have subsidies.

 

[OldTwilight]

I don't understand why the government decided to completely remove subsidies at a time when wheat prices are soaring all over the world and the region is experiencing droughts. If they wanted to remove the subsidies why not do it gradually ? More importantly what are they going to do to fix this mess ?

این ها واردات خودرو رو آزاد کردند تا آخر تابستان و درست وقت شروع مدارس که مردم می خواهند برای بچه هاشون سرویس بگیرند ، بنزین رو آزاد کنند ...

 

[TheImmortal]

With all the recent oil sales, I'm sure that the government could have kept the subsidies in place if they really wanted to. They kept the subsidies in place during the entire Iran-Iraq war.

Also why did they not remove the subsidies gradually ? Wheat prices have doubled since last year and in some countries the price has gone up 30%. A 10 fold increase for the price of flour, and 3 fold increase for the price of food in general is too much of a shock for society. I cannot understand the logic behind this move at this time.

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People like you live in a fairy tale land. Look at what rial was worth during the war and look at what it is is worth today. Look at a gasoline and natural gas consumption in Iran during the war and look at it today. List goes on and on. Don’t compare two very different time periods and try to make a direct correlation.

On one hand you decry JCPOA and claim Iran doesn’t need it then cry when Iran is forced to cut subsidies.

Iran’s foreign exchange reserves are frozen and limited oil sales means even less Petrodollars and Petroeuros are flowing into Iran’s coffers.....thus you have to cut subsidies. And no 1MBPD is not enough money to cover all of Iran’s various subsidies (oil, electricity, foods, medicines, government workers salaries, various government programs and projects).

So if you are anti-JCPOA you have to realize these subsidies will need to go as well. And they should go, they drain the governments coffers. It’s a miracle they lasted this long. Look at what happened in to Hugo Chavez’s Socialist Venezuela after government coffers got depleted beyond repair due to falling oil
Revenues/corruption while maintaining a high socialist subsidized society.