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Iran is planning on upgrading their standard service rifle from the G3 to an HK417 type rifle (Masaf). However even the older G3 rifles still in use, they are all well maintained since Iran has reverse engineered the G3 a long time ago.

That's for the regular army. Some units of IRGC use M-16 type rifles and some units, along with most paramilitary (Basij) use AK type rifles.

It's not the weapons that matter, but the training, leadership. organization, morale, etc as the failure of the Afghan security forces have shown

I'm not sure if Taliban will begin using M-16/AR-15 type rifles since they prefer AKs. Also such rifles will require a constant supply of bullets. I'm pretty sure they have warehouses filled with AKs and their bullets are more accessible in the region and cheaper. For parts they could cannibalize the M-16s easily.


The Taliban have recovered enough rifles to modernize the entire brigade level of ground forces rifles in Iran Imao. Kind of a shame on our part for not improving the quality of our ground unit equipment, particularly the army. But regardless as we can see, it's the training that matters the most,

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still one great argument the military makes is to have automated systems with enough sensoric and recon to make sure that nothing will happen because either way the border of afghanistan cant have a constantly deployed tank regiment its absurd also the tanks arent even deployed in a manner in which it would help on the border rather to stop any attempt of advances beyond the border
all you need in this case is the borderguard and a few specialists from army or so for these automated weapons and not dozens of tanks as it is the case now
i hope this doesnt become another proposal or idea only and that they take these kind of protective measures serious that are put forward specially this cable drone sounded interesting to add for certain border areas
 

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iran has developed a drone which is hanging on a cable which gets for example put between far high points like between two hills or mountain tops even in some cases in western parts and this drone can move on the cable back and forth using cameras to detect smuggling and other intrusions and fire a flare round above the intruder group for warning and for easy detection
passive defense organisation and the police basically already asked rouhani administration for 2 years for this drones to be placed on the western border these greencard people are living in iran with their palaces in fact i know where zarif lives rouhani and the whole bunch i know even where the house of zarifs mother is these people have all the wealth and no security if iran has no security they dont either its so absurd how they sold out
 
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Iran is planning on upgrading their standard service rifle from the G3 to an HK417 type rifle (Masaf). However even the older G3 rifles still in use, they are all well maintained since Iran has reverse engineered the G3 a long time ago.

That's for the regular army. Some units of IRGC use M-16 type rifles and some units, along with most paramilitary (Basij) use AK type rifles.

It's not the weapons that matter, but the training, leadership. organization, morale, etc as the failure of the Afghan security forces have shown

I'm not sure if Taliban will begin using M-16/AR-15 type rifles since they prefer AKs. Also such rifles will require a constant supply of bullets. I'm pretty sure they have warehouses filled with AKs and their bullets are more accessible in the region and cheaper. For parts they could cannibalize the M-16s easily.

thank to god that iran gets rid of factionalism in politics its either revolutionary or you are not welcome in politics this has to be a law simply because iam sick of irans industries being attacked from inside by nonsense blabbering fools like some liberal zionist loving professor in teheran a think tank which should be utterly taken down and which is at fault for protests and even deaths inside iran or other degenerates of the sort because iran was about to become really insecure because of it all and they attacked ostad raefipoor because he did his work it was so absurd they stopped several attempts already before for this firearm to be released which only lead to it becoming better and better they constantly try to attack such kind of organisations still today only arresting them will fix this basically all of the mafia starting with rouhani the trained freemason a nice liberal guy that the public was fooled with indeed
 
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Tanks are actually great for stopping a convoy of technicals in their tracks. That's just in case militant groups even think about trying anything. Deploying automated systems on the border is a great idea but they are expensive to setup and operate. Sometimes governments find it easier and cheaper to deploy troops already in service.

Realistically in a situation like this when there is a war waging in a neighboring country, it's a good idea to have a variety of equipment on the border including tanks, armored vehicles, helicopters, etc Watch this Russian/Tajik/Uzbek exercise on their borders.


iran has developed a drone which is hanging on a cable which gets for example put between far high points like between two hills or mountain tops even in some cases in western parts and this drone can move on the cable back and forth using cameras to detect smuggling and other intrusions and fire a flare round above the intruder group for warning and for easy detection
passive defense organisation and the police basically already asked rouhani administration for 2 years for this drones to be placed on the western border
 
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iran needs to give an order of 100k masaf rifles these are good for the main rifle but iran also needs a higher calibre something between anti material and standard assault rifle
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when we look at these than something between 11.5 and 8.58 on lower end will be needed aswell
iran has the low and the high end of these projectiles but it needs something in the middle and in fact a machine gun for example would do well with something like 9.5 instead of moving also there for 7.62 and its supposed to be special brass calibre but the point is rather by the ammo size than the current use of it
 
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By the start of next week close to 20% of Iran's eligible population will have received 1 dose of the Covid-19 vaccine, with more than 4% having received 2 shots.

Right now Iran is producing more than 5 million doses monthly of its own homemade vaccine, Barekat. In the next few months Iran will produce 20 million doses a month.

At the current rate, by the start of September, close to 30% will have received 1 shot with close to 6% or more having received 2 shots. In September the vaccination drive will go into full swing.

The daily deaths seem to have also reached a peak. Hopefully the number of deaths will only go down from now.

Compared to the leading countries Iran is behind by a few months. However compared to the average nation, in the next few months Iran will surge far ahead.

In the next few months Iran will also begin selling and distributing vaccines to foreign countries. This will be a great service to humanity. The western nations may not recognize it but the world will be thankful.
 
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16 million people in Iran have so far received vaccines out of an eligible 57 million. Iran is well on its way.

Only a handful of countries are even producing vaccines. I'm not talking about licensing and reproducing. Iranians have conducted the research and are now producing their very own vaccines.

In the coming months you will see most people in Iran receive vaccines and Iran distributing to a dozen or more nations.

Again the west will downplay this achievement but the world will appreciate Iran's contributions to humanity.

Have a bad feeling Raisi just repeating the Rohani way of governing and selecting people for positions...

 
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16 million people in Iran have so far received vaccines out of an eligible 57 million. Iran is well on its way.

Only a handful of countries are even producing vaccines. I'm not talking about licensing and reproducing. Iranians have conducted the research and are now producing their very own vaccines.

In the coming months you will see most people in Iran receive vaccines and Iran distributing to a dozen or more nations.

Again the west will downplay this achievement but the world will appreciate Iran's contributions to humanity.

What you said is true. I also don't agree with what that guy has written in the tweet.
But in the video we see a false promise by the new VP, months ago.
Keep it professional, no false promises and even if, then don't promote someone doing it to a very high position.
 
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Their are a number of mafia's in Iran that insist on keeping the status quo. As you mentioned, the car industry is one of them. Because it is government managed, we can all see why it does not grow and improve. It's literally because they have no reason to, no reason to improve quality, not reason to do anything but stay stagnant.

Governments job is not to govern everything, but to serve the people by facilitating, providing and allowing it's people opportunity to grow and grow more.

The automobile industry in Iran is privately owned and managed. I would recommend watching the outstanding documentary "Octopus", whose director conducted serious empirical research into the corrupt practices of IKCO shareholders, who are essentially liberal-minded private investors rather than government agencies:


Moreoever, the notion that a privatized automobile sector open to (foreign) competitors will experience greater levels of innovation and improved product quality thanks to free market competition is flawed. Simply because the automobile market is an oligopolistic one at the global scale: with the rampant mergers of major carmaking companies over the past decades, these are now concentrated into only a handful of conglomerates.

Which in turn encourages them to reach tacit mutual understandings on how to share the market between themselves, rather than engaging into actual competition.

This holds true of practically all major industries and service activities in the capitalist west nowadays. In other words, there is no real innovation-promoting competition between corporate oligopolies that attribute market shares to each other through backdoor deals.

https://topforeignstocks.com/2019/10/27/the-global-auto-industry-is-an-oligopoly/

http://docplayer.net/4353499-The-ev...a-few-and-subsequent-oligopoly-formation.html


This is what unfettered capitalism leads to. Not to nicely functional, self-regulating free markets, but to a negation of these principles. It truly is an inherently flawed, self-defeating system.

Governments job is not to govern everything, but to serve the people by facilitating, providing and allowing it's people opportunity to grow and grow more.

Government does not have to manage every single aspect of the economy, however it should absolutely intervene in four types of sectors and/or activities:

1) Regulation of financial markets and maintenance of national sovereignty in the monetary realm. In particular, a government-controlled Central Bank and control over money printing.

Else, independent central bankers in charge will tend to constantly prescribe a restrictive monetary policy and structural adjustment so as to benefit large corporations, with pressure constantly mounting on the working class, the poor and even the middle class, thus provoking a steady rise in social-economic inequality.

Something that would be particularly intolerable in an Islamic system, where social justice is a central theological tenet Muslims have a duty to pursue. The 1979 Islamic Revolution took place in the name of the mostaz'afin or downtrodden, and revolutionaries are not going to throw this Islamic principle over board and substitute it by some dangerous bankster-led mechanism, whose failure can be witnessed right now in the west and its client states.

Also, few Iranians realize how incredibly lucky they are for being one of the very last nations on earth whose central bank is neither privatized nor independent from the government. The day this happens (God forbid), Iran as a nation-state will effectively lose its sovereignty to the likes of the Rothschilds, the Morgan Stanleys, the Goldman Sachs's. Even if most ordinary citizens would possibly not be able to perceive it immediately, their country would have lost its so hardly preserved independence.

2) Industries, agricultural activities and services where private actors will be disincentivized to invest into, either because of a comparatively low return on investment, or to a delayed, slow paced return on investment, coupled or not with prohibitive entry costs. Resulting either in under-investment, or in oligopolistic corporations taking over, usually with the participation of foreign investors (which implies foreign control). Unless of course authorities step in to regulate the flaw.

3) Sectors of the economy deemed crucial for national security. For example the food industry and key agricultural staples such as wheat.

4) Sectors considered strategic enough for governmental authorities to protect nascent national production against foreign competition which would otherwise nip national manufacturers in a bud.

To break it down,

* Sectors where tight regulation and intervention by public authorities is required to guarantee supply and affordable price levels:

- Food industries and agricultural staples.
- Pharmaceutical industries.

* Sectors which ought to remain public monopolies:

- Extraction and sale of oil and gas.
- Distribution of water, electricity and gas.
- Fundamental telecommunications infrastructure.
- Fundamental railway infrastructure, public urban transportation.
- Defence industries, space program, etc.
- Nuclear program.

* Sectors where the state may share means of production with the private sector, but should own a good proportion of these:

- Strategic heavy industries.
- Strategic high-tech and knowkedge based industries.
- Power generation.
- Telecommunications.
- Healthcare, in particular hospitals (a strong network of public hospitals alongside private ones is a must).
- Construction (Khatam ol-Anbiya should continue being active alongside private companies).
- Airliners (national flagship airliner).
- Education (public schools and universities must largely outnumber private ones).
- Production and supply of cultural goods and amenities (cultural centers, bookstores etc).
- Broadcast media (even if their current monopoly status may be loosened to some extent).

Everywhere else, free market norms may apply under the condition that fair and just labor laws guarantee the rights and dignity of workers and employees.

This is balanced enough. Problem we have though, is that Iranian liberals tend to be more Catholic than the Pope.

It's as if they were conceptually and factually stuck in 1991, still imagining like Francis Fukuyama back in the day, that mankind's ideological and political history had come to a halt with the collapse of the USSR, by virtue of which the western model of secular liberal "democracy" and unchecked capitalism supposedly scored an eternally lasting victory, leaving it unchallenged for all time to come given a supposed inherent superiority over every other potentially conceivable system.

Of course these naive dogmatic beliefs have since been largely retracted or relativized, including by many of their original advocates. But somehow, Iranian liberals missed the boat. They seem more indoctrinated than "good old" Serbian Otpor students bankrolled and trained by Soros-owned foundations.

The 2009 global financial crisis which ripped through the western-dominated capitalist world, as well as the unstoppable ascent of an authoritarian-ruled China along with the revival of an illiberal-oriented Russia as competing centers of power in an increasingly multipolar world, not to mention crumbling infrastructures and widening social unrest in America have served as wake-up calls to many. And yet Iranian liberals prefer clinging to their western-inspired outlook as if nothing happened.

With its unparalleled history the Iranian nation can do without a current of thought as civilizationally alienated as this one. Iran has everything she needs to keep sustaining herself and improving the spiritual and material lives of her people - from natural to human resources as well as an outstanding cultural and philosophical heritage. Why even look abroad for inspiration, and to the zionist-dominated western political and economic order at that, knowing moreover that the regimes associated with this order happen to be existential enemies of Iran?
 
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Well car prices are going up all over the world right now. Used cars have gone up in value quite a bit. This is because Covid-19 caused semiconductor factory shutdowns in Asia which has led to a shortage in cpu chips. Also Iran is under sanctions and many of the car parts that Iran does not produce have had to be purchased from the black market or under the table at higher costs.

Still there are those who have taken advantage of this situation to increase prices much more than necessary. I think it's time that Iran drop the 100% tax on car imports. They wanted to protect the Iranian automobile industry and foster growth. Now Iran produces 1 million cars a year and Iranian cars are much cheaper than most foreign brands.

Maybe 10-20% import fee would be reasonable but not 100%. It's time Iranian cars compete on a level playing field with global competitors.

Yes any corrupt practices by overly greedy investors should be stamped out. Did you know that in the USA, the richest people pay the least amount of tax ? For example Jeff Bezos, the richest man in the world, only pays 1-3% tax most years. A few years back he even got $4000 on his tax returns.

Bezos mostly makes money through his stock shares of Amazon increasing in value. However in the US you don't pay tax on stocks unless you sell your stocks. Some years he had made tens of billions but instead of selling his stocks he continues to get loans from banks at 5% or less.

The automobile industry in Iran is privately owned and managed.

I would recommend watching the outstanding documentary "Okhtapus", whose author conducted some fascinating in depth research into some of the corrupt practices by IKCO's shareholders, who are liberal-minded private investors rather than government officials:


Moreoever, the notion that a privatized automobile industry will experience greater levels of innovation and quality improvement thanks to free market competition is flawed. Simply because the automobile market is an oligopolistic one at the global scale: with increasing fusion and concentration of large carmaking companies, there are no more than a handful of these left.

Which in turn encourages them to come to tacit understandings as to how to share the market between them, instead of engaging in competition.

This is the case of all major industries and even service activities in the capitalist west nowadays. In other words, there is no real innovation-promoting competition between corporate oligopoles that attribute market shares to each other through backdoor deals.

https://topforeignstocks.com/2019/10/27/the-global-auto-industry-is-an-oligopoly/

http://docplayer.net/4353499-The-ev...a-few-and-subsequent-oligopoly-formation.html


This is what unfettered capitalism leads to. Not to perfectly functional, self-regulating free markets, but to a negation of these principles. It truly is an inherently flawed, self-defeating system.



Government does not have to manage every single aspect of the economy to the slightest detail, however it should at all times intervene in four types of sectors and/or activities:

1) Regulation of financial markets and maintenance of national sovereignty in the monetary realm. In particular, a government-controlled Central Bank and state control over money printing.

Else, those in charge will constantly prescribe a restrictive monetary policy and structural adjustment for the benefit of large corporations, with pressure constantly mounting on the working masses and the poor, thus provoking regular increase in social-economic inequalities.

Something that would be particularly intolerable in an Islamic system, where social justice is a central theological tenet Muslims have a duty to enact. The 1979 Islamic Revolution was made in the name of the mostaz'afin, the downtrodden, and revolutionaries are not going to throw this Islamic principle overboard for some dangerously utopian concepts of bankster-led ultra-capitalism, which are failing right before our eyes in the west and its client states.

2) Industries, agricultural sectors and services where private actors will be disincentivized to invest into due either to a comparatively low return on investment, or to a protracted, slow paced return on investment.

3) Sectors of economic activity deemed crucial for national security. For example the food industry and key agricultural staple products such as wheat. Other example, the pharmaceutical industries.

4) Sectors considered important enough for governmental authorities to protect nascent national production against foreign competition that would otherwise nip it in a bud.

To break it down,

* Sectors where tight regulation and intervention by public authorities is required to guarantee supply and affordable price levels:

- Food industries and staple agricultural products.
- Pharmaceutical industries.

* Sectors that ought to remain public monopolies:

- Extraction and sale of oil and gas.
- Distribution of water, electricity and gas.
- Telecommunications fundamental infrastructure.
- Railway fundamental infrastructure, public urban transportation.
- Defence industries, space program, etc.

* Sectors where the state may share means of production with the private sector, but should own a good proportion of these:

- Strategic heavy industries.
- Strategic high-tech and knowkedge based industries.
- Power generation.
- Telecommunications.
- Healthcare, in particular hospitals (a strong network of public hospitals alongside private ones is a must).
- Construction (Khatam ol-Anbiya should continue being active alongside private companies).
- Airliners (national flagship airliner).
- Education (public schools and universities must be largely predominant in numbers).
- Production and supply of cultural goods and amenities (cultural centers, bookstores etc).
- Broadcast media (even if their monopoly status may be revised to some extent).

Everywhere else, free market norms may apply under the condition that fair and just labor laws guarantee the rights and dignity of workers and employees.

This is balanced enough. Problem we have though, is that Iranian liberals tend to be more Catholic than the Pope.

It's as if they were conceptually and factually stuck in 1991, still imagining like Francis Fukuyama back then, that the ideological and political history of man had come to a halt with the collapse of the USSR, thanks to which the western model of secular liberal "democracy" coupled with unchecked capitalism supposedly scored an eternally lasting victory, and would thus be left unchallenged for all time to come given it's inherent superiority, so they thought, over every other possibly conceivable type of system.

Of course these naive dogmatic beliefs have since been largely retracted or relativized, including by many of those who conceived them initially. But somehow, Iranian liberals missed the boat. They seem more indoctrinated than the "good old" Serbian Otpor students bankrolled and trained by Soros-owned foundations.

Somehow, the 2009 global financial crisis which ripped through the western-dominated capitalist world, the steady ascent of an authoritarian China along with the revival of an illiberal Russia as rival centers of power in a more and more multipolar world, as well as crumbling infrastructures and increasing social unrest in America served as wake-up calls to many, and yet Iranian liberals apparently prefer clinging to their western-centric outlook as if nothing happened. So they keep dwelling in their slumber... or perhaps it's just that they pretend to be asleep.

In my opinion, the great Iranian nation with its unparalleled history can do without a current of thought as civilizationally alienated as this. Iran has everything she needs to keep sustaining herself and improving the lives and spirituality of her people - from natural to human resources and an outstanding cultural and philosophical heritage. Why even look abroad for inspiration, and to the zionist-dominated western political and economic system of all places, knowing moreover that the regimes which designed this system are existential enemies to Iran?
 
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Well car prices are going up all over the world right now. Used cars have gone up in value quite a bit. This is because Covid-19 caused semiconductor factory shutdowns which has led to a shortage in cpu chips. Also Iran is under sanctions and many of the car parts that Iran does not produce have had to be purchased from the black market or under the table at higher costs.

Still there are those who have taken advantage of this situation to increase prices much more than necessary. I think it's time that Iran drop the 100% tax on car imports. They wanted to protect the Iranian automobile industry and foster growth. Now Iran produces 1 million cars a year and Iranian cars are much cheaper than most foreign brands.

Maybe 10-20% import fee would be reasonable but not 100%. It's time Iranian cars compete on a level playing field with global competitors.

The thing is that there won't be any real competition even then, since car industries are oligopolistic at the global level ie in the hands of a few multinational groups resulting from successive fusions. A token number of foreign conglomerates entering the Iranian market will lead to them and IKCO and Saipa striking deals to share the market, rather actually competing against each other. Either this, or Iranian producers will disappear. But it will not prevent corrupt schemes detrimental to the consumer.

Yes any corrupt practices by overly greedy investors should be stamped out. Did you know that in the USA, the richest people pay the least amount of tax ? For example Jeff Bezos, the richest man in the world, only pays 1-3% tax most years. A few years back he even got $4000 on his tax returns.

Yes, completely appalling. Now the issue is that these practices are ingrained in the capitalist system. The system practically depends on them for its continued survival. A thorough rethinking is required - before these same elites do it in our place and to our further detriment, starting with the implementation of the ban on usury as required by Islam.
 
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Usury is banned in most developed countries. I'm talking about loaning money at extremely high rates of interest. That's the definition of usury right ?

However in this day and age to ban the practice of loaning in general doesn't make sense since loans lead to increased business activity / financial growth and interest rates are tied to inflation rates.

The thing is that there won't be any real competition even then, since car industries are oligopolistic at the global level ie in the hands of a few multinational groups resulting from successive fusions. A token number of foreign conglomerates entering the Iranian market will lead to them and IKCO and Saipa striking deals to share the market, rather actually competing against each other. Either this, or Iranian producers will disappear.

This will not prevent corrupt schemes at the expense of the consumer. Only systematic judicial action can achieve this aim.



Yes, well the issue is that these practices are ingrained in the capitalist system. The system practically depends on them for its continued survival. A thorough rethinking is required - before these same elites do it in our place and to our further detriment, starting with the implementation of the ban on usury as required by Islam.
 
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