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Isnt it dangerous to talk like that when your living in Iran?

I am living in England :lol:

I was exactly like you once. You can go back and check my early posts. I had the same way of thinking as you. Just like you, I hated the mullahs and the regime, but acted like an apologist b/c I thought I was defending Iran. What a fool I was.

Just like me, you will change as well and realize that the mullahs are 1000000000 worse than any enemy you can imagine. All the so called "achievements" are also nothing but smokes and mirrors.

Bro fck the mulla's. Behind these parasites there are real Iranians working for thei country. I say this because I know/ am related to some of them. The mulla's are like a internal infection, we need to remove them without causing too much damage to the host. Unfortunately, it seems Iranian people's appetite for revolution is down so what needs to happen is these mullas need to die out of existence. They can't control Iran from their death beds. The Iranian youth have not love for these animals, the youth are the future.

We can't do anything about mullahs, I live in the UK. The best I can do is back those people who are trying to make their nation advance. This is what I do. Lets be thankful these creatures actually allow scientific development unlike the wahabi countries.
 
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Your problem is that you think just because I am interested in Iran's military and advancement and I defend it, that somehow automatically makes me a "mullah lover". I am probably less of a mullah lover than you are, so maybe you should not jump to conclusions.
I will defend Iran's achievements, it has nothing to do with mullas, you think mullas make nanotechnology advancements?
I am not affiliated with any political entity, nor am I religious.

You can bash Iran's "Islamic" republic all you want, I don't care. I believe the "Islamic" republic is a false creation by some arab ayatolla wanabe's. They have no place in Iran. But what you need to understand is that they are only a chapter in Iran's history, they will disappear and Iran will go back to being proper great nation free of these parasites. Anyway, you can bash the Islamic republic, but don't bash the hard work of the engineers/ scientists who are trying to defend Iran. Don't see it as they are working for the mullah...see it as they are helping defend Iran from these regional scums like the wahabis.

We Iranian can defend Iran at the same time as being anti mullah. I have relatives in Iran whom are scientists, doctors etc etc and they are doing great work for Iran, and they sure as hell ain't pro-Islam/mullah.

Btw, the fact you're flying that flag in your avatar does not make you seem anti mullah but rather a being who is just as bad as them. At least they aren't trying to split Iran into fake artificially created parts. If you wanna defend Iran, do it right.

Dude, Your post is 100% similar to @Abii's previous posts, and even in some extent to some of my previous posts. That's a good point, since you would probably change like how Abii changed and will become a more practically thinking person. Dude, if your relatives have been working, researching, ... in Iran, I , myself, have done research there, and have been in contact with the work space of Iran. So, I have experienced or saw by myself what others may have told you. That's why I can easily understand that their so called progresses are only bunch of hoax, since I know what are their real capabilities, and their management, and system, and ...
Anyway, let's not miss the main point here. It is very important to stick to our main problem and concentrate our energy, and efforts to solve it. Now tell me what is the main problem of Iran? Wahabis? Arabs? ...? Dude, the main enemy are mullahs, and we need to concentrate on this issue. it is the main point here.
About the flag, my flag represent Azerbaijanis of Iran, who are an oppressed ethnicity in Iran. In contrast to you and Abii, my issue is not limited to mullahs and it is much larger. You are not from a Turkic or semite ethnicity in Iran, so it will be hard for you to understand our problems. We hated Pahlavis as well. Since they were hardly trying to oppress us. The point is that I have faced a lot of discrimination in this forum from other Iranian members only because of my ethnicity. There was a troll, named surenas who was constantly writing racist comments about us. my flag is like a big middle finger to all racists who want to assimilate Azerbaijanis with themselves. It is not about separatism, or political means at all, but it is about representing an oppressed but proud and strong nation.
 
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This isn't about the dollar. Canadian salaries have been going up every year and since 2000 they're up 20% to US' 0.3%. This is after tax too.
Check out the trend lines:
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/23/u...ass-is-no-longer-the-worlds-richest.html?_r=0

The dollar is a different issue.

I don't see USA ever getting on its feet again. Certainly the country's top earners are killing the rest of the world, but when it comes to the middle class, they're losing out big time. By 2020 a lot of the European countries will have surpassed the US as well.

Back in the day, the auto industry employed the most number of Americans out of any other industry and they paid their workers around 50 an hour (based on today's dollar). Today, Wal-Mart is the number one employer and pays an average of 7.50 an hour!!! Without drastic change in American sociopolitical atmosphere, there's no hope for the American middle class. That's not to say they're doing bad today, but the advantages are slipping away and in some cases others have surpassed the US, perhaps forever.

Here we have salary increases annually, above the inflation rate too, while in the US it's almost zero and it has been for almost 2 decades. The republinuts killed the minimum wage bill today btw.


I haven't seen it yet. I might have said that I didn't like the trailer.

I was exactly like you once. You can go back and check my early posts. I had the same way of thinking as you. Just like you, I hated the mullahs and the regime, but acted like an apologist b/c I thought I was defending Iran. What a fool I was.

Just like me, you will change as well and realize that the mullahs are 1000000000 worse than any enemy you can imagine. All the so called "achievements" are also nothing but smokes and mirrors.

We need a republican president again. Obama is making people lazy by giving free foods, and ... these acts are populistic and socialistic manner and it is not in harmony with american spirit and capitalism. I am sure everything would get better if the democrat dominated media allow people to think realistically, and return US back on its tracks of success again. These goons in ME are also getting too bold again, which is another outcome of a democrat administration. US needed to f*** Libyans after their attack to US embassy at Benghazi, but the lenient democrat administration tried to peacefully ignore it. Just like how carter was lenient with mullahs. Anyway, these mullah goons were also getting bold again, but hopefully obama changed his policies regarding mullahs a bit which made mullahs to knee. Just imagine what would happen if he wanted to choose a more harsh policy about mullah goons. Anyway, I think the current situation is just a temporarily fluctuation, and US will be back on tracks again, specially by having a republican president in the next elections. ;)
 
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I am living in England :lol:



Bro fck the mulla's. Behind these parasites there are real Iranians working for thei country. I say this because I know/ am related to some of them. The mulla's are like a internal infection, we need to remove them without causing too much damage to the host. Unfortunately, it seems Iranian people's appetite for revolution is down so what needs to happen is these mullas need to die out of existence. They can't control Iran from their death beds. The Iranian youth have not love for these animals, the youth are the future.

We can't do anything about mullahs, I live in the UK. The best I can do is back those people who are trying to make their nation advance. This is what I do. Lets be thankful these creatures actually allow scientific development unlike the wahabi countries.
No, No, No. :disagree::disagree::disagree:
How can you cure a cancer without any side effects? is it possible? obviously no. That's why I am pointing out to be a practical instead of idealist person. Again, you are driving toward a wrong way, again. focus on the main issue. mullahs may be better than Wahabis, or South Pole penguins, but it does not matter. The point is that they are parasites and need to be removed. BTW, these creatures are 100% against real scientific achievements. That's why they don't spend a penny on science related research. all of what they care about is their missiles, khompaareh Salavati, and these toys. You can go to Sharif and Tehran University. many of their equipment are from Shah era. even I have seen red sun and lion sign, instead of red crescent, on their first aid kits. :rofl::rofl::rofl: These goons are reluctant to pay even one Rial for any research, or equipment. :disagree::disagree::disagree:
 
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@haman10 @Abii @rmi5 @Prince of Persia I want to ask some history, who ended the Greek rule in Iran after Alexander defeated Darius.

This part of history is a bit controversial. We know that seleucids came after Alexander, but, it is not clear that when they got removed. Iranologists say that Parthian defeated selucids, but they also admit that it seems that the country has not been united at that time and it has been ruled by different separate dynasties. But, some other historians disagree with this theory, since all of the coins from Parthian era have Greek format. even the architecture of buildings of Parthian era is purely greek. So, there is a disagreement about this era.
 
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This part of history is a bit controversial. We know that seleucids came after Alexander, but, it is not clear that when they got removed. Iranologists say that Parthian defeated selucids, but they also admit that it seems that the country has not been united at that time and it has been ruled by different separate dynasties. But, some other historians disagree with this theory, since all of the coins from Parthian era have Greek format. even the architecture of buildings of Parthian era is purely greek. So, there is a disagreement about this era.

Seleucus was defeated by Indian Emperor Chandragupta Maurya thus Greeks were kicked out of India around 320BC but they again came back from Bactria in 185BC when Maurya Empire fell and stayed there until defeated by Kushans(Tocharians) who came from Tarim Basin.
 
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Seleucus was defeated by Indian Emperor Chandragupta Maurya thus Greeks were kicked out of India around 320BC but they again came back from Bactria in 185BC when Maurya Empire fell and stayed there until defeated by Kushans(Tocharians) who came from Tarim Basin.
Yes, that's true. But, note that in contrast to the confirmed facts of their presence in south of Central Asia, there are controversial opinions about their presence in the Iranian plateau, and specially the western and central parts of it.
 
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فساد مالی جدید در رژیم اسلامی: این بار 400 میلیارد تومان در بخش نفت!
Cümə, 01.05.2014 06:03
گوناز تی وی: رژیم اسلامی ایران به همراه چند کشور فقیر آفریقایی که حکومت های شبه دیکتاتوری دارند، از نظر فساد مالی و اداری در صدر کشورهای فاسد جهان قرار دارد. بسیاری از اعضای خانواده و نزدیکان رهبران این رژیم حلقه های مافیایی قدرتمندی را تشکیل داده و با رانت خواری های چند صد و چند هزار میلیاردی به ثروت های افسانه ای رسیده اند. در صدر این سیستم فاسد خود سید علی خامنه ای قرار دارد که بیش از 95 میلیارد دلار در سال های اخیر ثروت اندوزی کرده است. مجتبی خامنه ای نیز سر حلقه اصلی باند بابک زنجانی است. تکلیف خانواده های لاریجانی و رفسنجانی نیز معلوم است و نیازی به توضیح درباره مافیای مالی قدرتمند آنها نمی باشد. سپاه پاسداران نیز با ایجاد تشکیلات قوی و بهره مندی از رانت های ویژه در 10 سال گذشته توانسته به عنوان یکی از ارکان اصلی این گونه فساد ها مطرح شود. دولت احمدی نژاد نیز چنان در دام فساد مالی افتاده بود که یکی از نمایندگان مجلس به درستی اصطلاح "فساد سیستماتیک" را درباره دولت احمدی نژاد و کلیت رژیم اسلامی مطرح نمود. وزرای روحانی نیز هنوز جای خود را بر صندلی های ریاست خود گرم نکرده، شروع به فعالیت های پنهان اقتصادی و رانت خواری های دولتی نموده اند. این عوامل همگی سبب شده تا بعضا رژیم اسلامی برای سرپوش گذاشتن به حجم بالای فساد موجود در این رژیم به افشای برخی از این فسادها و فریب افکار عمومی اقدام نماید. جدیدترین این موارد، فساد 400 میلیارد تومانی در یک شرکت نفتی است.

به گزارش گوناز تی وی، شرکت های ایرانی که در بخش نفت و پتروشیمی به فعالیت می پردازند بدون استثنا به باندهای فوق تعلق دارند. بخش مذکور چنان سود هنگفتی را نصیب فعالان آن حوزه می کند که افشای رانت خواری های 400 میلیارد تومانی مبلغ بسیار ناچیزی در این باره به شمار می آید. بر طبق گزارشی که اخیرا ازسوی برخی رسانه ها منتشر شده و کلیات آن نیز به رئیس قوه قضائیه (که خود یکی از ارکان اصلی مافیای اقتصادی و فساد مالی در ایران به شمار می رود!) ارائه شده "در زمان مدیریت ف.ف بر یک شرکت نفتی که زیر مجموعه یک نهاد عمومی غیر دولتی یعنی صندوق بازنشستگی صنعت نفت محسوب می‌شود قریب به 400 میلیارد تومان پرونده فساد اقتصادی در نهادهای نظارتی مختلف از جمله سازمان بازرسی کل کشور و نیروی انتظامی و همچنین ده‌ها پرونده در مراجع قضایی برای وی و عوامل مرتبط با وی تشکیل شده است."بر اساس این گزارش فرد یاد شده پیش از این مدیرعامل شرکت «س» بوده است که در این شرکت نیز پرونده کلانی درباره سوءاستفاده وی در نهادهای نظارتی تشکیل شده است."پس از گذشت دو ماه از بازداشت ف.ف دادگستری استان اصفهان فردی به نام «الف» در ارتباط با این پرونده بازداشت کرد. شنیده شده نامبرده با کمک فرزندش که تحت تعقیب قضایی است در این پرونده فساد اقتصادی دست داشته اند. «الف» و فرزندش دارای پرونده فساد 70 میلیارد تومانی هستند.""جزئیات جدیدی که از این پرونده فساد کلان به دست آمده از نقش یکی از بدهکاران بزرگ بانکی و مفسدان قدرتمند اقتصادی در پشت پرده این فساد 400 میلیارد تومانی حکایت دارد."گفته می‌شود این مفسد مشهور اقتصادی 2 هزار میلیارد تومان بدهی بانکی دارد و یکی از شبکه‌های قدرتمند قاچاق کالا در ایران را اداره می‌کند."بر اساس این گزارش یکی از روسای ستاد مبارزه با قاچاق کالا و ارز وی را بازداشت کرد اما بازداشت وی بیش از دو روز ادامه نیافت و در مقابل پس از آزادی وی رئیس مشهور ستاد مبارزه با قاچاق کالا و ارز برکنار شد."

این در حالی است که مقامات دولت روحانی سعی دارند این گونه فسادها و رانت خواری ها را به دولت احمدی نژاد منتسب کنند و خود را از هرگونه فساد مالی مبری جلوه دهند!

به عنوان نمونه، اکبر ترکان، مشاور حسن روحانی، در مصاحبه‌ای که بهمن ماه منتشر شد ضمن ابراز نومیدی از قطع زنجیره فساد و ویژه‌خواری وعده افشای فسادی «ده‌ها هزار میلیاردی» در آینده نزدیک را داده بود .

ترکان در مصاحبه‌ای با روزنامه آرمان که روز شنبه، 26 بهمن، منتشر شد به طور تلويحی گفته بود که اين فساد ده‌ها هزار ميلياردی در دولت محمود احمدی‌نژاد رخ داده و فساد 9 هزار ميلياردی که اخيرا بارها به آن اشاره شده تنها «بخش کوچکی» از آن بوده است.

اما واقعیت این است که دولت روحانی نیز خود از همین ابتدا بساط رانت خواری و ویژه خواری نزدیکان دولت را گسترانده است.

در این رابطه الیاس نادران نماینده مجلس گفته برخی از وزرای دولت حسن روحانی بین 800 میلیارد تا هزار میلیارد تومان ثروت دارند. نادران این اظهارات را در برنامه‌ای تلویزیونی و در واکنش به تبلیغات دولتی برای تشویق مردم به انصراف از دریافت یارانه و ارائه اطلاعات اقتصادی خود مطرح کرده است.

به عنوان نمونه نگاهی به شرکت های خصوصی که محمدرضا نعمت‌زاده وزیر صنعت، معدن و تجارت عضو هیات مدیره آن‌ها بوده است، بیانگر آن است که او دارای ثروتی افسانه‌ای و در زمره ثروتمندان کابینه دولت حسن روحانی است.

همچنین الیاس نادران در این برنامه تلویزیونی الیاس افزوده بود: "آیا وزرا حاضر هستند دارایی‌های‌شان را اعلام کنند؟ اگر خیر، پس چرا توقع انصراف مردم از دریافت یارانه و ارائه اطلاعات اقتصادی خود را دارند".

این نماینده مجلس افزوده بود که شفافیت اطلاعاتی ابتدا باید از بدنه دولت اجرا شده و سپس از مردم "انتظار ارائه اطلاعات" کنند.

قابل ذکر است دوشنبه 19 اسفند ماه سال گذشته، احمد توکلی یکی از نمایندگان مجلس گفته بود: "ما به مرحله فساد سیستماتیک رسیده‌ایم، فساد سیستماتیک به مرحله‌ای از فساد اطلاق می‌شود که نهادهای مسئول مبارزه با فساد خودشان به درجاتی از فساد مبتلا هستند.

در خصوص فساد مالی، ایران در حالی که در سال 2007 در رتبه 131، در سال 2006 در رتبه 113 و در سال 2005 در رتبه 93 قرار داشته است در سال 2008 با 10 رتبه سقوط نسبت به سال قبل از آن در رتبه 141 در میان 180 کشور جهان قرار گرفت؛ این روند دهشتناک تاکنون ادامه داشته و باعث گردیده ایران در بین فاسدترین کشورهای جهان قرار گیرد. طبق برآورد سازمان شفافیت بین المللی تنها در سال2011 فسادمالی 34 میلیارد دلار برای اقتصاد ایران هزینه داشته که 31 میلیارد از کاهش بهره‌وری و 3 میلیارد با راندمان سرمایه‌گذاری خارجی رخ داده است.

شایان ذکر است سازمان «شفافیت بین‌المللی» در آلمان، در تازه‌ترین گزارش خود که دوازدهم آذرماه سال گذشته منتشر شد، ایران را از میان 177 کشور با 25 امتیاز (از صد امتیاز) در رتبه 144 جهان از نظر فساد اداری قرار داد که نشان دهنده 11 پله سقوط در مقایسه با سال 2012 میلادی است.

همچنین بر پایه گزارش سالانه «شفافیت بین‌المللی» در سال 2012، ایران با کسب 28 امتیاز، در میان 176 کشوری که تحقیقات در آنها انجام شده بود، در جایگاه 133 قرار گرفته بود.

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فساد مالی جدید در رژیم اسلامی: این بار 400 میلیارد تومان در بخش نفت!-GunazTV / اخبار
 
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just funny for those who watched ' the big bang theory ' :D
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