Iranian Chill Thread

[Hack-Hook]

You think they will be open about it? Would be silly from a political PR point of view.

The latest zionist raid on Al-Aqsa provided an ideal opening to Iran, Iran seized it by coordinating with HezbOllah and Hamas. Of course Hamas happily accept the possibility offered to them to strike the zionist entity from Lebanese soil, for the first time ever after numerous zionist violations of the sanctity of Masjid ul-Aqsa.

I have an entire series of congruent facts on my side, which I enumerated before.



In only two years, four nuclear scientists assassinated and another wounded during Rohani's presidency. There was noimmediate tit for tat action.

As for the two retaliatory strikes by Iran towards Occupied Golan during that period, credit goes fully to the national security establishment, not to the Rohani cabinet. The latter was busy trying to shut down Iran's capability to respond.

which rouhani was head of

 

[SalarHaqq]

which rouhani was head of

Head of an administration which was bent on rolling back Iran's military power, having Iran cease her struggle against zionism and imperialism, negotiate away her nuclear program and so on.

The revolutionary core of the system and the national security establishment stood against Rohani and prevented his administration from carrying out this agenda.

 

[HGV]

Where does it mention bases?

I guess they suddenly materialise into existence only when their sensors on the border indicate it is a good time to cross into Iran from Azerbaijan to conduct nuclear terrorism, and before that they simply don't exist or live anywhere, so how could this cowardly and corrupt IRI possibly respond to such acts. Besides, it might upset Turkey. God forbid.

 

[SalarHaqq]

I guess they suddenly materialise into existence only when their sensors on the border indicate it is a good time to cross into Iran from Azerbaijan to conduct nuclear terrorism, and before that they simply don't exist or live anywhere,

Spies can live and work outside bases too.

so how could this cowardly and corrupt IRI

"Cowardly" and "corrupt" to the point of being the only state actor on planet earth brave enough to take on not just western imperialists but the zionists as well. To arm, train, fund both Palestinian and Lebanese Resistance factions against Isra"el". To smash an actual Mossad outpost with multiple ballistic missiles.

Any brave and righteous governments anywhere which have been willing and capable of emulating these feats? Might have missed them.

Besides, it might upset Turkey. God forbid.

Let's act rashly, idiotically like Saddam and offer the enemy the casus belli it's been waiting for, rather than proceeding with the required shrewdness and sophistication as in the past four and a half decades during which Iran not only survived but greatly advanced and improved her reach in the face of the world's hegemonic superpower and its endless array of vassals.

Thank God Iran isn't led by amateurs.

 

[HGV]

Let's act rashly, idiotically like Saddam and offer the enemy the casus belli it's been waiting for, rather than proceeding with the required shrewdness and sophistication as in the past four and a half decades during which Iran not only survived but greatly advanced and improved her reach in the face of the world's hegemonic superpower and its endless array of vassals.

Thank God Iran isn't led by amateurs.

The problem with this cowardly mindset is that you lose sight of what matters in the pursuit of some greater strategic goals, and it becomes a Pyrrhic victory where Iran is ritually humiliated by the Baku regime hosting Mossad bases and spies that regularly infiltrate Iran with impunity because it is too afraid of Turkey, and cannot directly respond to Israel killing Iranians multiple times a year because it is too afraid to risk supposed strategic gains... A balance must be struck, otherwise the enemy will correctly infer that Iran is not willing to take risks to respond to its provocations, so it can continue killing Iranians for fun, like they do now.

You can write your long paragraphs with the typical bullshit about how actions of Palestinians in Lebanon should be attributed to Iran (really pathetic attempt to take credit for the bravery of others) but we all know it is a matter of time until the next Iranian is killed by Israel or the next sabotage operation inside Iran. There is no deterrence and lying to convince yourself otherwise is a dangerous form of self delusion that harms Iran greatly.

As for Iran not being led by amateurs, even most pro-IRI Iranians I speak to don't deny those who lead Iran are corrupt amateurs who mismanage the country in almost every way possible.

 

[tsunset]

Three Israeli settlers butchered in Jordan Valley shooting

https://thecradle.co/article-view/23412/three-israeli-settlers-killed-in-jordan-valley-shooting

 

[SalarHaqq]

The problem with this cowardly mindset is that you lose sight of what matters in the pursuit of some greater strategic goals, and it becomes a Pyrrhic victory where Iran is ritually humiliated by the Baku regime hosting Mossad bases and spies that regularly infiltrate Iran with impunity

A "cowardly" mindset which motivates you to engage into full-on Resistance against the US empire, as one of only a handful of governments daring enough to thread such a path, and to top it off, to proceed in the same manner against the zionist regime. Talk of turning definitions on their head.

What matters is to avoid losing sight of the interplay between relevant geopolitical factors and to opt for adequate timing, appropriate means and rationally devised policies, strategies and tactics. Initiating open military confrontation with the Baku republic without a legitimizing narrative politically exploitable not just domestically but at the global level would run counter to each and every one of these principles.

Spies will operate against Iran regardless of the Baku regime just as much as the reverse holds true, namely Iranian intelligence services handling agents including at the highest echelons of the zionist occupation regime.

because it is too afraid of Turkey,

Because escalating to the point of military conflict with Turkey for the sake of eliminating a token number of zionist spies would be perfectly irrational. Nothing to do with "fear" and everything to do with sound decision making.

As I am obliged to keep reminding, geopolitics isn't a street brawl. Different conceptual categories apply.

and cannot directly respond to Israel killing Iranians multiple times a year because it is too afraid to risk supposed strategic gains...

Ditto, because the cost-benefit ratio wouldn't be favorable even while Iran's strategy to date has been a winning one.

A balance must be struck, otherwise the enemy will correctly infer that Iran is not willing to take risks to respond to its provocations, so it can continue killing Iranians for fun, like they do now.

The enemy is intelligent enough not to base its actions on the sole "fun" it could hope to derive from them.

What it is miserably failing at however, is the accomplishment of its fundamental objectives against Iran.

You can write your long paragraphs with the typical bullshit about how actions of Palestinians in Lebanon should be attributed to Iran (really pathetic attempt to take credit for the bravery of others)

Palestinians who materialize in southern Lebanon, HezbOllah's fief, through teleportation while bringing along heavy weaponry, operating it unbeknown to HezbOllah, failing to inform the Joint Operations Room all their major undertakings have been coordinated at since 2021, and embarking on a completely novel type of response to zionist violations of Al-Aqsa's sanctity.

This is what I would tend to call comical storytelling.

but we all know

Ad populum fallacy. Rhetoric figures are usually resorted to when arguments are lacking in the substance department.

it is a matter of time until the next Iranian is killed by Israel or the next sabotage operation inside Iran.

If so then it would happen to no avail, as always.

There is no deterrence and lying to convince yourself otherwise is a dangerous form of self delusion that harms Iran greatly.

Not really. Zionist propaganda suggests otherwise but zionist leaders are perfectly aware how ineffectual their sabotage operations have been.

That's because full-fledged deterrence has been established by Islamic Iran against precisely the type of actions which could indeed disrupt the geostrategic balance decisively to the enemy's benefit.

As for Iran not being led by amateurs, even most pro-IRI Iranians I speak to don't deny those who lead Iran are corrupt amateurs who mismanage the country in almost every way possible.

Anecdotal claim, of no real consequence. Proof is in the pudding i.e. in the fact that the Islamic Republic has managed to stand up to the world's biggest powers-to-be for 44 lengthy years in a row, all the while of experiencing significant development on all fronts and continuously expanding its geopolitical standing and influence.

 

[HGV]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1644405755301306376

Brave Palestinians neutralised two high-value military targets linked to the Zionist Navy's special forces. I doubt they knew it at the time, but impressive nonetheless.

 

[Hack-Hook]

It's a bit more complicated than that.

The clip you shared was shot in the single most expensive neighborhood in all of Iran (Elahie, northern Tehran). Residents of these sort of areas represent the uppermost (1%) percent of the Iranian population in terms of wealth. As it appears, a majority of females among them won't observe Islamic hejab if given a choice. With financial affluence comes cultural westernization, adoption of globalized "lifestyles" and of secularist views. This can be considered a general rule in Iran, although there are of course various exceptions to it.

By contrast I'd invite you to watch the following scenes filmed on Enqelab Avenue in downtown Tehran, a middle class / lower middle class area.

Right away, you may observe the stark difference to the document you shared. I counted every female in this latter footage: about two thirds are wearing hejab.

And if you take a look at actual working class districts as well as the countryside, you'll notice that an estimated 85% or so will be observant of Islamic dress code rules.

Working class, rurals and (lower) middle class represent the great majority of the Iranian population.

Several trustworthy surveys were conducted on the topic in Iran. They are mentioned at minutes 35 and 42, as well as one hour and five minutes into the below presentation:

This is a highly recommended watch for Persian-speakers.

What the quoted data reveals is that a staggering 83% of surveyed Iranian females declared they would keep following Islamic hejab even if the law was amended and they were legally authorized not to do so. 58% consider shari' hejab (i.e. chador) as a necessity, while 31% will rather opt for 'orfi hejab ("lighter" hejab e.g. colorful headscarf etc). Merely 14% indicated they would not choose any type of garment conforming to religious rulings.

The percentage of those agreeing that some sort of legal action (undefined, could be a mere fine, reminder of the law or more) must be taken vis à vis females who do not respect the hejab dress code stands at 47% (while it reached up to 53% a couple of years ago). A majority of respondents however are of the opinion that police patrols ought not be tasked with enforcing the dress code. 44% by contrast believe that females who fail in their religious duty with regard to the dress code shouldn't be facing any legal consequences. So most of those surveyed continue to be in agreement with the implementation of Islamic modesty laws on clothing, however the differential has shrunk as compared to earlier decades.

Now, exactly at a time when proponents and critics of the Islamic dress code are split into two groups of comparable proportions, the enemy started doubling down on its propaganda operation focused on the hejab debate (featuring militants such as Masih Alinejad and so on). Because the enemy is seeking to foment a clash between these social categories of more or less equivalent size, so as to provoke a maximum degree of instability and social disruption in Iran.

Food for thought.

in Enqelab street you must consider two thing .
one is that many of people you see are students and they had to have a resemblance of hijab.
another one is that many are employees and they work in governmental or semi governmental organization and they had to have hijab.
so i right now estimate something in line of 45-50 % and the hotter the weather become the percentage rise

Head of an administration which was bent on rolling back Iran's military power, having Iran cease her struggle against zionism and imperialism, negotiate away her nuclear program and so on.

The revolutionary core of the system and the national security establishment stood against Rohani and prevented his administration from carrying out this agenda.

head of the administration that ordered the attacks

https://twitter.com/x/status/1644405755301306376

Brave Palestinians neutralised two high-value military targets linked to the Zionist Navy's special forces. I doubt they knew it at the time, but impressive nonetheless.

a 15 year old and a 20 year old and their 48 year old mother ?
very brave indeed . if Palestinian want to achieve anything they learn from Hezbollah and attack Israel military not some random settlers.
and please not the nonsense of every Israeli is part of military because they have conscription. here in Iran we also have conscription

 

[HGV]

Two resistance operations by Palestinians today.

One in the occupied West Bank killed 3 Israeli settlers, including a member of the Israel Navy special forces unit.

One in Tel Aviv killed 1 Israeli settler and injured 7 more.

4 killed and 7 injured. Not quite an intifada but almost daily acts of resistance.

 

[tsunset]

in Enqelab street you must consider two thing .
one is that many of people you see are students and they had to have a resemblance of hijab.
another one is that many are employees and they work in governmental or semi governmental organization and they had to have hijab.
so i right now estimate something in line of 45-50 % and the hotter the weather become the percentage rise


head of the administration that ordered the attacks


a 15 year old and a 20 year old and their 48 year old mother ?
very brave indeed . if Palestinian want to achieve anything they learn from Hezbollah and attack Israel military not some random settlers.
and please not the nonsense of every Israeli is part of military because they have conscription. here in Iran we also have conscription

"Random settlers" but what do you want?
That they kill Netanyahu?

If they kill young soldiers: "They are cowards to target woman soldiers of 20 year old"
When old soldiers gets killed: "They are cowards to target old persons"

This logic looks completely like the Israeli and American propaganda ones

And where is the fact that she is 15 year old and 20 year old? It would mean that Israeli employs child soldiers for they special forces?

 

[HGV]

a 15 year old and a 20 year old and their 48 year old mother ?
very brave indeed . if Palestinian want to achieve anything they learn from Hezbollah and attack Israel military not some random settlers.
and please not the nonsense of every Israeli is part of military because they have conscription. here in Iran we also have conscription

They are Jewish settlers invading the occupied West Bank. Any settler invading the occupied West Bank is a valid military target. Let alone one linked to the Israel Navy Special Forces.

And since you mentioned it, the difference between Iranian conscription and Israeli conscription is that the latter is used to enforce and maintain an illegal military occupation.

 

[Mehdipersian]

"Random settlers" but what do you want?
That they kill Netanyahu?

If they kill young soldiers: "They are cowards to target woman soldiers of 20 year old"
When old soldiers gets killed: "They are cowards to target old persons"

This logic looks completely like the Israeli and American propaganda ones

And where is the fact that she is 15 year old and 20 year old? It would mean that Israeli employs child soldiers for they special forces?

They are occupiers not random people. They should leave or die

 

[ParthianLord]

they should only target male military targets or atleast male settlers that are visibly armed.

they need to have the moral high ground.

 

[thesaint]

Millennium Challenge: Iran Destroyed America In a War Game

Something to keep in mind.

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