925boy
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you made all this ramble to not be able to actually counter my point that NATO is low on ammunition?Then let's get back to lovely topic of numbers and go to good old orange vs apple comparison.
According to WP report :
"There are conflicting reports of just how much Iraq has borrowed since the war began. But press reports in Bahrain said Kuwait, the United Arab Emirates, Saudi Arabia and Qatar together had lent $14 billion during the first seven months of the war.
Banking and other sources say the total is now somewhere between $16 billion and $20 billion, with Kuwait contributing possibly $8 billion."
Iraq (1980) took $16-20 billion from other Arab countries and used it in first year of war vs Iran.since we talking about 80's dollars it was way more valuable compared to now but let's say it had similar effects to donation/loans of $40-50 billion of today's Ukraine since unlike Iraq back then Ukraine inherited older USSR technologies and had some capabilities at home when everything started.
I'm not ignorant of Russia's air power but somehow NATO managed to keep Russian airplanes in their home country.so most of the fight is between ground forces. does it ring a bell ?
Ironically it took a couple of months for Iraq to invade and take Khorramshahr vs some volunteers equipped with small arms with help of broken army of Iran.
I've heard or read a lot(Iranian sources) about first years if Iraq-Iran war and shortage of shells for Iraq was not part of them.
WHy did NATO buy shells from Pakistan to give to Ukraine?? Why d id US govt just give a ton of funding for US defense companies to "ramp up ammunition production"?
Playing devil's advocate proves you're uninformed, and if you're uninformed, just ask questions pls.
Also, the old weapons NATO used to send Ukraine, like M777 howitzers, no longer have the "desired effect", so NATO needs to send Ukraine stronger military equipment "drugs" - now patriots- oooh man, Arash 2s and Shahed 136s cant wait to lock onto them- that patriot will get destroyed within a week of activation.
Russia has ALSO used its airpower- you dont know Ka-53s and Mi-28Ns are flying in Ukraine? or are you just blind? MEANWHILE>>.....any Ukrainian airforce aircraft that takes to the air GETS SHOT DOWN - you havent noticed this? Ukraine gotta be outta aircraft by now...those are much harder to replace....especially when Russia can surely fry them in the air- recently Russia destroyed like 5-8 air craft, Su-24s, Mi-8s, etc.....Ukranian airforce is so done...so is its air defenses...Gepard didnt work on Shahed 136s did they? bombaclot reload more shahed 136s on NATO's azz..lmao...Iran aint shown weak azz NATO anything and Ukraine is already cripped..no wonder Ukraine is threatening Iran these days.