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The protests are enough to shock the mullahs that there are millions of people inside the country that do not agree with their (internal) policies.

The damage to the reputation and legitimacy of IR by these protests can never be reversed and will only result in weakening of the ideological pillars.

2 or 3 generations from now, Iran will be a different country and more open-minded.
One or two generations at most.
بابا دهه هفتاد و دهه هشتاد دهن اینها رو سرویس کردن
ببین دهه ۹۰ و دهه یکم قرن جدید چی از آب در بیان

از نیمه دوم دهه شصت اختیار از دست حکومت در اومد
الان نوبت به بچه‌دار شدن بچه‌های ۶۵ تا ۷۵ رسیده. ببین چه بچه‌هایی علیه قوانین کس شعر حکومت تربیت کنند
فکر کن هم پدر و مادرت هم مادربزرگ و پدربزرگت غیر مذهبی و ضد حکومت باشن
به نظرت امکان داره تو با ارزش‌های حکومت بزرگ بشی و بهشون پایبند باشی؟​
 
The only place that matters is Tehran, and theirs a decent amount of people.
تبریز هم خیلی شلوغه. تبریز تهران آذری‌ها هست
من دو تا دوست تو تبریز دارم خبر دارم که خیلی شلوغ بوده این چند روز
مشهد و سمت غرب کشور هم که خیلی اوضاع برآشفته هست

من تعجبم از اهواز و شیراز هست که ساکت هستند
اهواز به نظر میاد شده شهر نفوذی‌های عربستان
یادته سر آبان ۹۸ خوزستان چه کولی‌بازی در آوردن؟ الان ساکت نشستن

امیدوارم نتیجه هر چی که می‌شه به بهتر شدن ایران و اتحاد بیشتر مردم کمک کنه​
 
Change is inevitable. Shahriar Heydari, chairman of national security committee of the Iranian Parliament, has already said it's not police task to control womens hijab, police is for general security.
Zarghami has also spoken:
او افزود: «برخلاف تصور برخی دوستان و دشمنان، تجدیدنظر در برخی قوانین و روش‌های ناکارآمد اجتماعی، به سقوط دومینو وار نظام منجر نمی‌شود.»
 
Masih alinejad neveshte ke oshnavie soghoot karde.

Yani in ke polis va digar mamooran az shahr farar kardan.

Change is inevitable. Shahriar Heydari, chairman of national security committee of the Iranian Parliament, has already said it's not police task to control womens hijab, police is for general security.
Zarghami has also spoken:
او افزود: «برخلاف تصور برخی دوستان و دشمنان، تجدیدنظر در برخی قوانین و روش‌های ناکارآمد اجتماعی، به سقوط دومینو وار نظام منجر نمی‌شود.»
Zaman hamechi ro taghir mide. Adamha taghir mikonand. Hamin zarghami khodesh kesafat tar az hame bood.
 
One or two generations at most.
بابا دهه هفتاد و دهه هشتاد دهن اینها رو سرویس کردن
ببین دهه ۹۰ و دهه یکم قرن جدید چی از آب در بیان

از نیمه دوم دهه شصت اختیار از دست حکومت در اومد
الان نوبت به بچه‌دار شدن بچه‌های ۶۵ تا ۷۵ رسیده. ببین چه بچه‌هایی علیه قوانین کس شعر حکومت تربیت کنند
فکر کن هم پدر و مادرت هم مادربزرگ و پدربزرگت غیر مذهبی و ضد حکومت باشن
به نظرت امکان داره تو با ارزش‌های حکومت بزرگ بشی و بهشون پایبند باشی؟​

البته نرخ بارداری به شدت به نفع مذهبی هاست
 
Masih alinejad neveshte ke oshnavie soghoot karde.

Yani in ke polis va digar mamooran az shahr farar kardan.


Zaman hamechi ro taghir mide. Adamha taghir mikonand. Hamin zarghami khodesh kesafat tar az hame bood
Khar-mazhabiya dast dadan be monafeghin va shahollahiya ke jaryan bode amniati begire, bishtar be samte koshtar va fetneh bere bejaye eslahate ghanooni.
 
البته نرخ بارداری به شدت به نفع مذهبی هاست
شاید نهایت چند دهم یا شاید چند صدم حتی. خیلی متفاوت نیست
نسبت به جمعیت بسنجی چون رشد شبیه نمایی هست می‌بینی که پایه به اندازه نما مهم هست
پایه عدد به شدت به نفع ضد مذهبی‌ها هست. نما هم کم و بیش مساوی هست
اون قسمتی از مذهبی‌هایی که تو فکر می‌کنی اتفاقاً اکثراً مخالفین سر سخت شیعه و حکومت تو سیستان و کردستان هستند
کلاً نرخ باروری به شدت علیه شیعیان شده تو ایران


باز هم یه سری بگن می‌زنیم و می‌کشیم تا جمع بشه. وقتی سطح خشونت بالا بگیره ترس هم کم کم می‌ریزه و جاش رو به خشم و انزجار می‌ده​
باید راهکاری رو پیدا کرد که پایدار باشه و مردم رو راضی کنه. نه اینکه خشونت بیشتر رو بهش دامن زد​
 
Khar-mazhabiya dast dadan be monafeghin va shahollahiya ke jaryan bode amniati begire, bishtar be samte koshtar va fetneh bere bejaye eslahate ghanooni.
Khar mazhabiya faghat zoor halishoon mishe. Alternative dige vojod nadare. Ya mardom barmigardan khoone hashoon va dobare zajr mikeshan ya bayad dargir beshan ba sarkoobgarha va az tarighe dargiri bidareshoon kard va ghanoon mozakhraf ro avaz konan.
 
Some people think Government can't fall, the government itself is also arrogant like this, and that is preciesely why they fall. Their arrogance blinds them from being effective, and their only solution is suppression, and they think they can't fall until they do.
 
Some people think Government can't fall, the government itself is also arrogant like this, and that is preciesely why they fall. Their arrogance blinds them from being effective, and their only solution is suppression, and they think they can't fall until they do.

You guys parade this 1T economy figure. If true then Up to 400B of that is in hands of IRGC. Some of the biggest companies in Iran have IRGC alumni up and down it’s leadership chain. Artesh has IRGC commanders.

You really think IRGC will just let its empire disappear? They will pack their bags and leave? It will become civil war before any type of government change. And if you overthrow the mullahs without major bloodshed (a miracle) you will just get a military tribunal council similar to Egypt. You think you gonna get a Mossadegh like figure that revolutionize Iran? This isn’t 2000 B.C.

An IRGC led Iran may let you have the alcohol, night clubs, and western style dress code these “kids” so desperately desire. But then what?

Remember that nuclear deal you hate so much? Remember the chest beating bravado you do when Iran refuses to bow to the West? Well guess what the next riots will be?

We don’t want nuclear program. We want jobs
We don’t want sanctions
We don’t want inflation
We don’t want hardship
We don’t want missiles

Then what will you to address these issues? Capitulate to the Western demands? They will be waiting smiling that now you have zero leverage anymore. Just like they are smiling at Russia and the situation Putin is in.

This issue goes far far beyond dress code. That’s just the tip of a never ending iceberg.

And if history shows anything: Turks, Arabs, and Persians will just continue to demand and demand and demand until they drive their nation into the ground (Syria, Libya, Iraq, Egypt, Yemen, etc) until there is just a failed state left in its wake. Then they go “oops” while they sip lattes in [insert western country here].
 
You guys parade this 1T economy figure. If true then Up to 400B of that is in hands of IRGC. Some of the biggest companies in Iran have IRGC alumni up and down it’s leadership chain. Artesh has IRGC commanders.

You really think IRGC will just let its empire disappear? They will pack their bags and leave? It will become civil war before any type of government change. And if you overthrow the mullahs without major bloodshed (a miracle) you will just get a military tribunal council similar to Egypt. You think you gonna get a Mossadegh like figure that revolutionize Iran? This isn’t 2000 B.C.

An IRGC led Iran may let you have the alcohol, night clubs, and western style dress code these “kids” so desperately desire. But then what?

Remember that nuclear deal you hate so much? Remember the chest beating bravado you do when Iran refuses to bow to the West? Well guess what the next riots will be?

We don’t want nuclear program. We want jobs
We don’t want sanctions
We don’t want inflation
We don’t want hardship
We don’t want missiles

Then what will you to address these issues? Capitulate to the Western demands? They will be waiting smiling that now you have zero leverage anymore. Just like they are smiling at Russia and the situation Putin is in.

This issue goes far far beyond dress code. That’s just the tip of a never ending iceberg.

And if history shows anything: Turks, Arabs, and Persians will just continue to demand and demand and demand until they drive their nation into the ground (Syria, Libya, Iraq, Egypt, Yemen, etc) until there is just a failed state left in its wake. Then they go “oops” while they sip lattes in [insert western country here].
Here is someone that doesn't understand how Iranians think.

You can be a dictator, become a paramilitary maffia with billions of dollars, you can even shout death to America but atleast treat your own people good and with respect. Do not impose backward semit law.

Iranians would even accept IRGC if they were busy defending Iran and not chase people for refusing wearing the semit hijab.

Iranian people are nationalist by nature, this is what IRGC must consider.
 
Remember that nuclear deal you hate so much? Remember the chest beating bravado you do when Iran refuses to bow to the West? Well guess what the next riots will be?

We don’t want nuclear program. We want jobs
We don’t want sanctions
We don’t want inflation
We don’t want hardship
We don’t want missiles
The difference is that hijab problem can be solved in literally 1 day and will bring benefit to the economy and society, it will also bring more unity.
About Nuclear and missiles, at least 75% of Iran defends these programs, these are "namusi and gheyrati" issues. At least 80% defends IRGC-Quds activities.
One problem remains: economy, it's a deep rooted problem, but it can be solved/improved.
 

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