Iranian Chill Thread

[sha ah]

It's funny how Aliyev hides behind Turkey like a little rat he is. What do you expect from this little man ? He was given the role of president from his father. He was born entitled like MBS, never worked a day in his life. Spends the countries GDP like his personal credit card. His wife is vice president for life. Think about it.

In any case, I don't think that any of this will lead to a military conflict. Diverting the current highway which goes into Armenia won't even be very difficult. Tiny portions of it barely skim the borders of the Baku Republic. Like I've said before, another option is for Iran to tax and seize trucks from Baku going into Iran. Their fishing operations which stray into Iranian waters can also be treated the same way.

As far as the nuclear deal goes, the Zionists are desperate. Trying anything and everything they can to harm Iran's nuclear program in anyway. But in the big picture they can't do anything significant. Ironically the harder they try, the more secure the program becomes and the deeper it goes underground. The Zionists are afraid to strike Iran directly because they know that Iran can retaliate and hit Dimona for example. In my opinion, Iran should build atleast 1 or 2 more nuclear facilities just for power generation. Iran should forget the nuclear deal, it's dead in the water.

Iran should instead focus on its own internal capabilities and strengthening ties with countries like China, Russia or others who want to cooperate on a fair and level playing field. Iran should also work on an alternative to Swift, perhaps encrypted blockchain ? digital currencies ? special institutions to allow and encourage business with whomever is ready and willing to trade with Iran.

TURKEY-AZ military exercise is of no concern. Aliev ate his own words, he went high on Israeli support. Now he has to Hide behind Turkey like a rat. It is not an important event.

In only One case, Iran will hit them both, and it is in case they try to absorb Nakhchivan. It will change regional geo politics and Iran won't tolerate it. Which i am sure that non of the two would try out because of Iranian sensitivity.

Let them hold a thousand military drills, who cares really?

 

[TheImmortal]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1444697278963453960

Breaking News: The sky is Blue - Iranian Intelligence Services

 

[sha ah]

This map nicely shows Armenia and Azerbaijan, except Stepanakert is still under Armenian control with Russian military police there now. Anyways that little chunk on the left of Armenia is the Nakhchivan enclave. The east of Nakhchivan borders Armenia, the west borders Iran. Only the north western tip, one mountain road connects Turkey to it.

Again it's a perfect choke point. Iran has access to Nakhchivan along the enclaves entire western border. Turkey doesn't even have access to Baku directly and even if they get their little Turkish corridor, again it's vulnerable since it's going to be one single road which has to cross through Armenian territory, Armenian troops, Russian military, etc.

If diplomacy doesn't work Iran should sign a deal with Armenia/Russia, send in military engineers and divert the parts of the highway which skim Baku territory. That will enrage Aliyev. but if they try anything Iran can hit them with a few dozen missiles as a slap

 

[Muhammed45]

It's funny how Aliyev hides behind Turkey like a little rat he is. What do you expect from this little man ? He was given the role of president from his father. He was born entitled like MBS, never worked a day in his life. Spends the countries GDP like his personal credit card. His wife is vice president for life. Think about it.

In any case, I don't think that any of this will lead to a military conflict. Diverting the current highway which goes into Armenia won't even be very difficult. Tiny portions of it barely skim the borders of the Baku Republic. Like I've said before, another option is for Iran to tax and seize trucks from Baku going into Iran. Their fishing operations which stray into Iranian waters can also be treated the same way.

As far as the nuclear deal goes, the Zionists are desperate. Trying anything and everything they can to harm Iran's nuclear program in anyway. But in the big picture they can't do anything significant. Ironically the harder they try, the more secure the program becomes and the deeper it goes underground. The Zionists are afraid to strike Iran directly because they know that Iran can retaliate and hit Dimona for example. In my opinion, Iran should build atleast 1 or 2 more nuclear facilities just for power generation. Iran should forget the nuclear deal, it's dead in the water.

Iran should instead focus on its own internal capabilities and strengthening ties with countries like China, Russia or others who want to cooperate on a fair and level playing field. Iran should also work on an alternative to Swift, perhaps encrypted blockchain ? digital currencies ? special institutions to allow and encourage business with whomever is ready and willing to trade with Iran.

Currently Azerbaijan is a banana Republic led by a rat. It doesn't carry geo political weight but only a headache to Iran.

We should work on Hezbollah of Azerbaijan which announced existence right after Raisi won the elections. They congratulate Raisi before many. This is just a hint and we have to arm them and support them. They know what to do

 

[sha ah]

Recently released Pandora Papers with over 12 million documents expose the corruption of the King of Jordan, Tony Blair, president of Ukraine Zelensky, politicians close to Imran Khan in Pakistan and Aliyev of Azerbaijan. Perfect timing don't you think ? Nice picture of Aliyev below, the pink in particular really suits him imo.

Crown estate bought £67m London property from family of Azerbaijan ruler

Leak reveals firms linked to Aliyev family – repeatedly accused of corruption – have traded nearly £400m of UK property

Crown estate bought £67m London property from family of Azerbaijan ruler

Leak reveals firms linked to Aliyev family – repeatedly accused of corruption – have traded nearly £400m of UK property

www.theguardian.com

The Queen’s crown estate has launched an internal review over a £67m London property it appears to have bought from Azerbaijan’s multimillionaire ruling family – which has repeatedly been accused of corruption.

Details of the purchase are contained in the Pandora papers, which reveal how a network of offshore companies linked to the family and associates of the Azerbaijani president, Ilham Aliyev, has traded close to £400m of UK property over the past 15 years.

The property purchases include one building acquired for £33.5m in 2009 by an offshore company beneficially owned by President Aliyev’s son, Heydar, who was then only 11 years old.

The revelations raise questions about potential loopholes in the UK’s property registration system, and whether they prevent proper due diligence, even by a body such as the crown estate, nominally owned by the UK monarch and run by commissioners for the benefit of the nation’s finances.

A spokesperson for the estate, which manages £15bn of property assets, said: “Before our purchase of [the building] we conducted checks including those required by UK law. At the time we did not establish any reason why the transaction should not proceed. Given the potential concerns raised, we are looking into the matter.”

Aliyev has ruled Azerbaijan since succeeding his father as president in 2003 and has presided over a country that is frequently accused of human rights abuses, rigged elections and systemic corruption.

In 2015, a European parliament resolution called on “EU authorities to conduct a thorough investigation into the corruption allegations against President Aliyev and members of his family”, following a series of stories by Azerbaijani investigative journalists accusing the first family of personally benefiting from state contracts and business deals.

In 2017, the human rights campaign group Freedom House also criticised the country for “widespread and pervasive” corruption in a report. “As long as the ruling elites continue to enrich themselves at the expense of the public purse, government anti-corruption measures will have limited impact,” it said.

The Conduit Street building in London. Photograph: Martin Godwin/The Guardian

In August 2018, the crown estate paid £66.5m for 56-60 Conduit Street, an eight-storey office and retailing property in London’s Mayfair, which it bought from a British Virgin Islands-based company called Hiniz Trade & Investment.

Hiniz had acquired the building for £35.5m in 2009, and the Pandora papers show how the ownership of the company was passed from the president’s daughter, Arzu Aliyeva, to her grandfather Arif Pashayev, who then placed the company into a trust in 2015.

The leaked files do not show the source of the funds originally injected into Hiniz, but disclosure of the company’s shareholders – and the manner in which ownership was switched between members of Azerbaijan’s first family – raises fresh questions about whether the transaction should be investigated on money-laundering concerns.

Dylan Kennedy, a former UK law enforcement officer and director of the financial due diligence company Intelpool, said: “The onward sale of any property that had originally been purchased with potentially dirty funds completes the money laundering cycle, by providing a fresh paper trail that effectively legitimises the proceeds. In this case, if the source of funds is shown to be questionable, the sale of a property to the crown estate is the pinnacle of legitimisation.”

The crown estate said it had been “provided with details of the ultimate beneficial owner of Hiniz Trade and Investment Limited, but no other ownership details”.

Arzu Aliyeva, daughter of Azerbaijan’s president, votes in the 2018 presidential election. Photograph: Yegor Aleyev/TASS
The deal is not the first time the Aliyev family’s London property investments have caused controversy.

In 2018, the Solicitors Regulation Authority fined a London solicitor £45,000 for failings connected to the property investments of President Aliyev’s daughters, Leyla and Arzu Aliyeva. The tribunal found the solicitor had failed to conduct enhanced due diligence in a case that should have raised money-laundering risks.

The UK government has repeatedly promised to introduce a compulsory register of overseas owners of property in the country amid concern that vast swathes of real estate are secretly held by owners who hide behind shell companies in tax havens.

The Pandora papers have removed some of that invisibility, revealing for the first time how, between 2006 and 2017, the Aliyevs and associates spent £389m secretly acquiring 27 properties using a network of offshore companies. Twelve of those properties have since been sold for a combined total of £374m.

Properties that the documents show the Aliyev-connected offshore companies still own include: a house in an exclusive new-build Kensington development, where homes are advertised with features including a swimming pool, Jacuzzi and a gym/cinema, and which Land Registry records state was bought for £29.3m in 2012; and three apartments in an exclusive Knightsbridge block located within metres of the department store Harrods and Hyde Park, which were acquired for about £5m in 2006.

The Aliyev family did not respond to efforts to contact them.

 

[SalarHaqq]

@SalarHaqq
@aryobarzan
@TheImmortal
@Blue In Green

How much do you think Israel is behind this pan-Turk push in Azerbaijan?

The zionist entity (there's no such thing as "Israel") is 100% behind all this. It has nothing much to do with neo-Ottomanism, in fact. Only few years prior to its collapse did the Ottoman empire engage in pan-Turkism. Otherwise the Ottoman empire never considered Shia Muslim Azarbaijanis as a potential asset. No, this is a zionist project at its core. I will soon post a thread highlighting the absolutely central role of an Isra"el"i scholar by the name of Brenda Schaffer in the so-called Azarbaijan Republic's connivance with anti-Iranian separatism.

As for those who claim Iran started hostilities against Tel Aviv, and that the latter would stop engineering "ethnic" separatism if Iran ceased supporting the Palestinian and Lebanese Resistance, all I can say is this: before 1979, Iran used to be a client state of Isra"el". And back in the day zionist, freemason, and Haifan Bahai networks used to deprive Iran of her sovereignty. So no, Iran didn't start the hostilities. They did.

I would also invite everyone to look up the Bernard Lewis and Oded Yinon plans for the "Middle East", as well as to take a look at the infamous Ralph Peters map of West Asia... Very clearly, the zionist occupation regime and the US have no tolerance for any strong nation-state in West Asia. So the idea that Iran would gain from normalizing ties with Washington in order to be able to counter threats emanating from its neighbors, is nothing but dangerous delusion.

Keep in mind that only the glorious Islamic Republic and its Supreme Leader (modda zella al-'ali) can safeguard Iran's terroritorial integrity. Had any other regime been in power, Iran would be either a US vassal like before 1979, or balkanized along so-called "ethnic" lines.

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@SalarHaqq

What do you think of all that's going on.

Are we being fooled here? Getting into a unneeded confrontation or being baited with 2 other nations while the Zio's hit us from behind or is this confrontation with the Baku government a necessity.

It is completely justified, dadash. An Azarbaijani activist publicly threatened with death the representative of the Leader of all Muslims and vice-regent of hazrate Emam Zaman ('ajal Allah ta'alah farajaho al-sharif) ie seyyed Ali Khamenei, an Iranian commander stated that Syrian insurgents shipped in by Erdogan are still present near Iran's borders, etc.

But no, Iran is not going to start a war of aggression. I don't know where this notion stems from in some peoples' minds. Also, please don't assume that Iran is going to fall for any of the schemes hatched by the masters of "divide & conquer" (ie the zionists). Iranian drills were and are meant to convey a message, no more and certainly no less. And, the message definitely got through. Just look at how the regime in Ankara first tried to underplay the event, and now suddenly is panicking to the point of preparing a joint wargame with Baku in response.

 

[Sineva]

Turkey, Azerbaijan Plan Military Drills After Iran Moved Forces

Turkey plans to hold joint military exercises with Azerbaijan this week in a region bordering Iran after the government in Baku criticized Tehran for staging army drills near its border.

www.bloomberg.com

Still curious why Iran helped Erodgan during the coup attempt.

Probably because when it really came down to it,irans political leadership considered that erdogan,despite all of the problems that they had with him,was far and away preferable to the anti-iranian gulenists being in power in turkey.

 

[SalarHaqq]

Probably because when it really came down to it,irans political leadership considered that erdogan,despite all of the problems that they had with him,was far and away preferable to the anti-iranian gulenists being in power in turkey.

Enough said. Iran's Leadership is extremely aware. Gülenists would have thrown their weight behind the MKO.

 

[TheImmortal]

The zionist entity (there's no such thing as "Israel") is 100% behind all this. It has nothing much to do with neo-Ottomanism, in fact.

Disagree with this assessment. While there is no secret that Baku and Tel Aviv have warm relations. The current situation is more due to the rise of Neo-Ottanism or Erdoganism being promoted to unite all “Crescent” flags especially ones speaking Turkic dialect.

Turkey went from a policy of “zero problems with neighbors” to problems with the entire Middle East (Israel, Greece, Syria, Iraq, Armenia, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, etc).

There was always a threat of Turkish and Ottoman Nationalism, but Turkey played the long game from 1995-2010 where they collected enough economic clout from Europe and US and collected enough ToT from their Arms industry to be able to one day be more independent. The Syrian civil war was the start or excuse of a expanding Turkey.

Turkey like Iran has a rich history. And Turkey like Iran wants power in a region that was once under their control. Turkey and Iran are the few non artificial states that exist in a region dominated by colonial drawn lines.

 

[SalarHaqq]

Disagree with this assessment. While there is no secret that Baku and Tel Aviv have warm relations. The current situation is more due to the rise of Neo-Ottanism or Erdoganism being promoted to unite all “Crescent” flags especially ones speaking Turkic dialect.

Turkey went from a policy of “zero problems with neighbors” to problems with the entire Middle East (Israel, Greece, Syria, Iraq, Armenia, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, etc).

There was always a threat of Turkish and Ottoman Nationalism, but Turkey played the long game from 1995-2010 where they collected enough economic clout from Europe and US and collected enough ToT from their Arms industry to be able to one day be more independent. The Syrian civil war was the start or excuse of a expanding Turkey.

Turkey like Iran has a rich history. And Turkey like Iran wants power in a region that was once under their control. Turkey and Iran are the few non artificial states that exist in a region dominated by colonial drawn lines.

Turkey is empowered by the west and the zionists. Its economic growth is reliant on debt - to whom, well, we all know. Moreover, Turkey is a NATO member and as such, follows the US agenda.

As said, it is a zionist scholar, a certain Brenda Schaffer - not a Turkish one, who laid down the contemporary intellectual blueprint for Azari separatism against Iran. But I'm going to open a thread on this one soon.

Ottomanism is intrinsically different from pan-Turkism. This is a zionist scheme with Turkey trying to ride the wave, not the other way around.

The masterminds of the project to break up Iran along so-called "ethnic" lines are Isra"el"i zionists:

Dismantle Iran Now

In Iran, more and more non-Persian minorities— who make up about half the country’s population—are demanding independence, suggesting that Iran could disintegrate into ethnic/national states. Th

besacenter.org

Even certain salafists like the Pakistani, University of Madinah-trained Yaser Qadhi have presented Atatürk as an associate of the Dönme. The Turkish Republic, with or without the AKP, is freemason and zionist at its very foundational core.

 

[Aramagedon]

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[TheImmortal]

Turkey is empowered by the west and the zionists. Its economic growth is reliant on debt - to whom, well, we all know. Moreover, Turkey is a NATO member and as such, follows the US agenda.

As said, it is a zionist scholar, a certain Brenda Schaffer - not a Turkish one, who laid down the contemporary intellectual blueprint for Azari separatism against Iran. But I'm going to open a thread on this one soon.

Ottomanism is intrinsically different from pan-Turkism. This is a zionist scheme with Turkey trying to ride the wave, not the other way around.

The masterminds of the project to break up Iran along so-called "ethnic" lines are Isra"el"i zionists:

Dismantle Iran Now

In Iran, more and more non-Persian minorities— who make up about half the country’s population—are demanding independence, suggesting that Iran could disintegrate into ethnic/national states. Th

besacenter.org

Even certain salafists like the Pakistani, University of Madinah-trained Yaser Qadhi have presented Atatürk as an associate of the Dönme. The Turkish Republic, with or without the AKP, is freemason and zionist at its very foundational core.

Wether Zionist influence exists (in Turkey) or doesn’t is irrelevant. Same as wether Iran is an Islamic Republic or not. Whatever system of government takes hold in Iran or Turkey, if it gains enough power will want to expand due to its historical nature as a rich global power.

Shah and IR of Iran were two different systems of government and both had designs on the Middle East.

Thus my point is even if Zionist influence was 0%, Turkey would still expand. And in this day of “proxy” and “satellite” state warfare it makes sense for Turkey to align with Turkic linguistic countries just as it makes sense for Iran to align with Shiite and Shiite derivative religions.

 

[SalarHaqq]

Wether Zionist influence exists (in Turkey) or doesn’t is irrelevant. Same as wether Iran is an Islamic Republic or not. Whatever system of government takes hold in Iran or Turkey, if it gains enough power will want to expand due to its historical nature as a rich global power.

Shah and IR of Iran were two different systems of government and both had designs on the Middle East.

Thus my point is even if Zionist influence was 0%, Turkey would still expand. And in this day of “proxy” and “satellite” state warfare it makes sense for Turkey to align with Turkic linguistic countries just as it makes sense for Iran to align with Shiite and Shiite derivative religions.

Before Erdogan, Turkey refrained from intervening in the region despite decades of economic growth. On its own, Turkey would represent no challenge to Iran. Only a Turkey playing into Isra"el"'s and the US's hands can pose a threat to Iran, if at all. Because unlike Iran, Turkey is deriving its power from its relationship with the west and Isra"el". It is not a self-sufficient and fully independent actor like Iran.

Those elements inside Turkey pushing for confrontation with Iran are either outright zionist or patsies doing Isra"el"'s bidding without realizing it. Expansion can take a multitude of forms, it needn't primarily take aim at Iran. However, it is either zionists or forces allied with zionists who want Turkish expansion to be done at Iran's expense.

 

[SalarHaqq]

Dismantle Iran Now

Begin-Sadat Center for Strategic Studies

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/dismantle-iran-now-major-israeli-think-tank.725084/

The master plan for Iran's balkanization along so-called "ethnic" lines is zionist. Iran's neighbors could not do a damn thing on their own in this regard.

Of course, zionist efforts are doomed to fail as well, but they pose the more serious challenge. Not those emanating from comparatively less powerful entities like Saudi Arabia or Turkey.

 

[Battlion25]

@SalarHaqq

You are normally a decent poster but you have been dwelling upon much heavy conspiracy theories in the last 2 pages.

I will try to be objective here. You have given Israel way to much credit and way to much influence than it can bite off what is next? Israel makes the moon spin around the earth. Never overinflate a country which has no significiant power and tiny. Which is the ground reality here and lets stick to real brutal facts and stay away from conspiracy theories.

The entire Israeli analogy really falls short here and also that map you posted? I mean really? come on bro? It reminds me about a map my 5 year old cousin has drawn.

- The ground realities here are entirely different and lets touch upon that instead. Israel is weak and can't project itself outside of it's territorial border it would be to streched hence it is technically not a power but a surviving entity that has no resources or manpower beyond that limit. Hence you never hear much of fear mongring regarding them except on this thread which I find bizarre. You Should never fear Israel itself as an entity but their game-plan is to gather as many allies as possible this is the only way but other than that they are not worth the convo.

- I have seen many Iranians saddened by the defeat of Armenia on this platform which is absurd to me to say the lest. Do you know who they are to begin with? I saw a documentary 2 years before the Nagorna-Karabakh where some journalists went to Armenia to talk to the people they found it out to be the most islamohopic country in the world where the government foreign policy is publically entirely build on Islamohopia and people were openly saying on the streets that any muslim should be killed I mean this is extreme. My question is why Iran failed to see this or are they masochistic. Why would an Iranian shed a tear for someone who would want to skin them alive?

President Ilham Aliyev: Armenia is a country where Islamophobia is a state policy

President Ilham Aliyev: Armenia is a country where Islamophobia is a state policy

scwra.gov.az

- Iran is going thru severe identity crisis and imo if only Iran was the only country on earth it would have still found ways to harm itself in masochistic fashion. Azerbaijan is keeping your borders safe but you can't see it. Do you think the Islamohobes would leave you?

- There is entities and elements who will come out or they already exist but they just didn't come to power and these are the islamohobes and ones you see them prepare for war because they are not people to reason with whatsoever nor will they seek to reason with anyone. I expect this people to come to power in the next 2-3 decades across the west. Several countries are now containing these elements or limit them. They didn't reach an outbreak yet but I am counting on it and preparing for the worse case scenario worldwide. This is existential proportions but you are here trying to cheerlead for the fort of the first known islamohopic country. These people are worse than Nazis