Iranian Chill Thread

[rmi5]

It is really rare for Salafis to identify themselves as "Wahhabis". You are right, non-Salafis may call Salafis "Wahhabis", even when they pray together in one mosque.

I agree that the Takfeer rules were pretty loose during Al Saud's expansion wars in the 1700s. That was generally made for political reasons. Apparently, Ibn Abdulwahhab himself didn’t care much about the bloodshed so long as this will lead to a “status quo” which few people will care how it came together. Otherwise, Sunni Salafis don’t consider non-Salafis to be non-Muslims. The proof of this is their intermarriage, and any daily prayer that takes place in any Riyadh mosque, where the number of non-Salafis can exceed % 30 of those who perform the prayer.

You can go wrong about Salafis, but you will never be wrong about one thing, their complete lack of tolerance towards Shiasim. Once again, the finger prints of Ibn Taymiyah are found. If I can judge, I would say that among all of his writings, Ibn Taymiyah’s harshness against Shiasim was unmatched by any other religious groups he criticized. All that can be found in his book “Minhaj Asunah Annabawyyah "منهاج السنة النبوية”. He wrote it in response to Al Hilly’s book “Minhaj AlKaramah "منهاج الكرامة". Virtually, all of the current Salafi & Sunni arguments against Shiasim was taken from the strong critique of Ibn Taymiyah he summrized in the aforesaid book.

Well, that's mostly right. Ibn Taymiyah, like Allamah Hilli, was more of a scholastic person, while Ibn Abdul-wahab was a more pragmatist person, that's what distinguishes Ibn Abdul-Wahab. I do believe that his radical thoughts about shrines and shias, was a tool to allow his followers to plunder shrines, since shrines, specially Karbala, were very wealthy, and had a big amount of gold, ... About Takfir, it is said that they consider non-Hanbalis as kafir, although some say that they have historically fought with the pretext of kufr against non-wahabi hanbalis as well. Anyway, it is a dangerous cult, and needs to be controlled, otherwise, it would defame muslims and arabs.

 

[rmi5]

What's up guys?

 

[rmi5]

It seems that status section is opened again It was closed ever since I joined this forum.

 

[haviZsultan]

wassup?

 

[rahi2357]

What's up guys?

be eftekhare avatare jadidet
اؤزون عشق آتشینه وورماغا دلشاد پروانه،
بلی، بیر دفعه یانماقدان اولور آزاد پروانه.
گؤرور مجلس لر ایچره شمعی هر شب یاری اغیاره،
اونونچون یانماغین طرحین قیلیر بنیاد پروانه.
سنه ای شمع، تهمت لر قالیر معشوقه لر ایچره،
اگرچی خرمن عمرون قیلیر برباد پروانه.
دئمه معشوق بی پروادی شمعه کیم، ملامت دن،
وئریب جان صوبحه دک، اولدو وفادن شاد پروانه.
بیلیب شمعین وفاسین، جسم جانین آتشه یاخدی،
غم هیجر دم وصلینده ائتدی شاد پروانه.
جفایه هیجریدن جانه یئتیب شوق وصال ایله،
یانیب شمعین اودونا، ائتمه دی فریاد پروانه.
یانار چون ناتوان خسته مدام اول آتش غمدن،
صبور اول، ائیله عادت، شیوۀ اوستاد، پروانه!

 

[Shahryar Hedayati]

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albate man nemidonam jorme soheil arabi daghigha che bode
va nemitonam hich hokmi bedam

niyaz be etelaat (bi taraf) bishtar hast
makhsosan dar morede band توهین به مقدسات

vali khob lazem midonam be har ravesh gorohhaye ISIS va wahabi va nezhad parast dar iran rishe kan be shavad......

last name-e- sh ham mashkok mizane

جان هر کی دوست دارید خودتون رو به کوچه علی چپ نزنید و پای پیامبر رو پیش نکشید
نه این ملت و این مسئولین پیامبر هستند و نه امروز سال 60 هجری شمسی
همه ما می دونیم که خیلی از همین مردم اگر فردا مقامی بدست بیاورند .... هر کاری برای نگه داشتن مقام خود انجام می دهند
همین مردمی که حرف از ازادی و دموکراسی می زنند .... همین مردم عادی ......
فردا که خرشون از پل گذشت باز هم ملت رو فراموش می کنند
صندلی ریاست جاذبه زیادی دارد و برای خیلی از ما هم رها کردن قدرت و امکانات سخت است
البته هر حکومتی باید سیاست به خرج بدهد و نسبت به مردمش بخشش نشون بده تا حداقل بتواند نظر مردم رو به خودش جلب کند

خداوند همه مارو ببخشاید

 

[Ostad]

صبور اول، ائیله عادت، شیوۀ اوستاد، پروانه!

 

[rmi5]

@Al-Kurdi
I just noticed your signature. Are you aware that it is what shias say, and is in contrast to Sunnis believes?

 

[Al-Kurdi]

@Al-Kurdi
I just noticed your signature. Are you aware that it is what shias say, and is in contrast to Sunnis believes?

Of course I am aware. Shias and Sunnis are muslim are they not? I am Kurd before anything else, then Jordanian and last but not least Muslim. I practice Islam not sunnism or shiism or any other sect. Simple as that. If you think I'm shia by birth I am not, I am shafei.

 

[rmi5]

@Abii 's ban is getting prolonged. @WebMaster @Serpentine can you guys let us know when his ban will be lifted?

 

[New]

@Abii 's ban is getting prolonged. @WebMaster @Serpentine can you guys let us know when his ban will be lifted?

 

[haman10]

@WebMaster , mate you banned him for simply posting a link , and its been a month now ....

i think its time for him to get back . don't get me wrong i don't love him , but still , he didn't deserve to be banned (for that reason) .

 

[Ostad]

whats up guys?

 

[haman10]

whats up guys?

waazup yo

 

[Ostad]

waazup yo

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lol nothing especial, حدیث نفس ing with myself. i can use some pills right now.