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I used to be a member of that joke site, Full of backward imbecile related almost every single thing with zionists or USA one way or another, Its more of a politcial trolling site then actual military related.
Saddam had the best tank divisions in middle east before the war with US. He lost them in a week against a huge US fire power. It is good to learn from history. It is not WWII anymore. In case they mass produce tanks, they better hide it in the mountains.
Iraqi tanks were not hit by A-10. They barely faced US tanks except a few situations. They were hit by missiles and fighters.Iraqi tanks VS A-10s is no match, but that still justify how an Army shouldn't have tanks, every adversary is not the US after all. If MBTs are irrelevant, than why the US is building A3, Why Germans are building Leopard2A7+, Why the British are building the Chellanger2?
@Abii @Surenas :i guess you can discuss in a better way guys.whats wrong with devoloping the project.have you seen z-1 tank?it was worse than italian tanks at ww2.z-2 became better.z-3 was in a good shape and now they finally have devoloped the mass-produce version of it(z-4).
now its equiped withmodern systems and remote guns.
plus.purdastan admited that Iran has some t-90s in service.he said z-4 is ahead of t-90 in all fields.
Iraqi tanks were not hit by A-10. They barely faced US tanks except a few situations. They were hit by missiles and fighters.
Of course it is OK for them to have tanks for small rebels or maybe if they go to war with another country.
I'm not against Iran making its own quality tank; I would love to see one emerging, but you have to agree that Zulfiqar-3 project has been disappointed so far.
Yes, they were. Conservative estimate to be about 900 Iraqi tanks destroyed by A-10s.Iraqi tanks were not hit by A-10. They barely faced US tanks except a few situations. They were hit by missiles and fighters.
Of course it is OK for them to have tanks for small rebels or maybe if they go to war with another country.
Why does Iran need tanks?
Tank is for a country who wants to make his infantry safe; Like Turkey against PKK. Each tank costs about 5 mil. Pretty expensive. ATGMs are making fast progress and that means even more expensive armaments. A 5 mil tank blows up by a cheap Kornet E. Cheap tanks are fine for Iran; just for use against small rebels. Tanks have no chance against US carpet bombing, if that happens. They are expensive targets. Tank is a contradiction to Iranian asymmetric defense. You need more small subs, ATGMs, drones, fast boats with missiles, small frigates with missiles, ....
It is not bad to continue RD but mass producing is not worth it.
Any way, it is up to your generals after all.
@Abii @Surenas :i guess you can discuss in a better way guys.whats wrong with devoloping the project.have you seen z-1 tank?it was worse than italian tanks at ww2.z-2 became better.z-3 was in a good shape and now they finally have devoloped the mass-produce version of it(z-4).
now its equiped withmodern systems and remote guns.
plus.purdastan admited that Iran has some t-90s in service.he said z-4 is ahead of t-90 in all fields.
duste gole man....una faghat maket budan va neshan dahandeye ravande pishrafte proje.f-35 ye shabe parvaz kard?ya una ham 10 sal faghat wallpaper o mock up janganda ro be namayesh mizashtan......Alan ye dahast ke in tanko mindazan poshte ye trailer migan inam tank. Ya ahmaghan hamashoon ya fekr mikonan ma ahmaghim. Age in proje vagheiye ke mese adam 2 metr aghab jelosh konin (99% chakhane), ageham taghalobie (ke meseinke ham hast) dige in zaye baziya vase chie!
In IR vaghean mojode ajibiye
Why does Iran need tanks?
Tank is for a country who wants to make his infantry safe; Like Turkey against PKK. Each tank costs about 5 mil. Pretty expensive. ATGMs are making fast progress and that means even more expensive armaments. A 5 mil tank blows up by a cheap Kornet E. Cheap tanks are fine for Iran; just for use against small rebels. Tanks have no chance against US carpet bombing, if that happens. They are expensive targets. Tank is a contradiction to Iranian asymmetric defense. You need more small subs, ATGMs, drones, fast boats with missiles, small frigates with missiles, ....
It is not bad to continue RD but mass producing is not worth it.
Any way, it is up to your generals after all.
to all:Turkey the super power makes tank.
@cabatli_53:you got my attention now go away plz.