look, if russia is signing a deal it hat so be fullfilled.
Iran was waiting 10 years and only got the S300-PMU2 bcz it was on the right track to produce a version which has the same capabilities + Iran filed suit in the International Court of Justice for not honoring the deal.
Syria ordered and payd for more then 30 YAK-130 and is still waiting since 2012.
Russia could say from beginning "no, we dont accept the order", but signing the deal, getting prepayment and then playing stupid games just to please Israel and western "partners" is not acceptable.
Common sense won’t work with some people. These guys throwing terms around like “real politik” like they even know what it means and just parroting it over and over as if the more they say it the smarter they sound. Realpolitik doesn’t mean sign contracts and then void them, dumbest thing I have ever heard.
There is a reason why international court was going to fine Russia billions for breach of contract that is because it was against the contract. Iran likely had fine print installed that gave Russia VERY FEW reasons to be able to breach contract. Russia’s excuse (United Nations Resolution) did not apply for defensive weapons.
guys do you remember northrop and bell sued us for reverse engineering the bell-214 and f-5?? did russians sued us for kh-55, va-111, small arms, ATGMs or trying to smuggle the kh-31 and reverse engineering it??
the reason they delayed to deliver the s-300 was our copies of their techs. russians are the ones who were developing fighter jets with us, which nation would do that??
that s-400 news is fake, also keep in mind we are not officially an ally of russia, means their wars are theirs and ours are ours, so for a neutral party they were good.
First of all KH-55 was supplied by Ukraine arms company not Russia. Second Iran’s version of Kh-55 is not “identical” like Bell-214 or F-5. Either way Russia couldn’t even sue China who basically ripped off most of what they bought from Russia. It got so bad that Russia had to beg China not to reverse engineer arms it sells or to buy licenses.
Iran still buys small arms from Russia and a lot of what you mentioned is covered by license production. Just because Iran doesn’t announce it doesn’t mean they don’t have licenses. Iran’s G-3s for example are made under license.
And Russia was developing fighter jets for iran? You mean the project they left in early prototype stage and when Iran decided to go about itself they refused to supply RD-33? Oh yeah what a great help.
I mean some of you have memories of goldfish, Russia refused to modernize Iran’s kilo subs in Iran in last 10 years. They said they should be transferred to Russia for modernization. They refused to share blueprints or tech. Iran was so worried that Russia would confiscate the kilo subs and not return them that they did modernization in Iran by themselves!
Does that sound like a “neutral party”? Or are one of you guys gonna scream “realpolitik” again like you know something? Laughable.
SU-57 was a disaster, India was a partner with Russia on the project and pulled out after complaining about Russian backstabbing and incompetence. The issue is not limited to Iran.
Right now Russia is challenging Iran in Syria by preventing Iran from gaining access to permanent bases and ports. Even though Iran is the one who had balls to put boots on the ground while Russia stayed in the air and learned how to hit targets (look at some of the Russia MoD videos some of their airstrikes were terribly bad).
Whatever Russia is doing they need to do opposite because they are going backwards. Last 20 years China has risen, Turkey has risen, Iran has risen, Hezbollah has risen. Russia has GONE BACKWARDS. How is that even possible?
Russia Agreed to U.N. sanctions on Iran in order to not get Missile shields placed in Europe. RESULT: Missile shields placed in Europe anyway
Russia Agreed to more U.N. sanctions on Iran in order to gain more respect from International community.
RESULT: Libya overthrown and NATO encroachment on its borders
More *** kissing by Russia in last 10 years
RESULT: Hit with sanctions, lost Ukraine, and now almost a social pariah like Iran. Furthermore, now the last remaining European countries want to join NATO and get under the umbrella. Russia is being squeezed.
The ONLY decision that has worked well is syria and that was Iran (Soleimani) convincing Russia to have some balls and come into Syria to save its port/interests and flex some of its power.
So if Russia is engaging in “realpolitik” it really sucks at it because it literally has made one mistake after another.
Russia’s leverage on Europe is because of one thing: Natural Gas.
What will happen once Iran is reintegrated to the international community? Iran one of the leaders in the world in natural gas reserves starts supplying large amounts of natural gas to Europe? What will happen once Qatar also starts supplying Even more Natural Gas?
Like I said, Russia is not in a strong position. Most of the world is aligned with the West and dependent on Western arms. In the future, who is Russia gonna supply arms to? Some random Asian or South American banana countries?
