WinterNights
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Again your picking and choosing a lengthy rebuttal of mine to justify your position. A common propaganda tactic to twist words in in favor.
I’m sure your so proud you can use google and come up with a definirion. Every nation looks out for its own interests so by default every nation engages in realpolitik in some shape or form.
So again using the term adds nothing to conversation. The argument is Russia is not a reliable ANYTHING (partner, country, ally, neutral party, whore, etc). So you can sit here and say well it’s because Russia does Realpolitik, okay still doesn’t change the argument that Russia is useless to Iran.
You claimed I did not understand what the term realpolitik meant and hence my first reply.
Answer me this, what was Russia’s INTEREST that you keep babbling about in not supplying S-300 to Iran? What did it ACHIEVE? I mean surely if you are going to say it was realpolitik that Russia was looking out for its own interest then such a brilliant decision must have ACHIEVED something? What was it?
They were being pressured by the Americans and Israelis (at minimum) to not supply the systems. If they had, they would have received certain backlashes at the time. What these backlashes would have been only those nations would be aware of. However, it is more than clear, it was because of external pressure that they did not deliver the system.
Because the way I look at, Iran got the system in the end and beat Russia (either way Iran would have gotten the system or gotten billions in fines). Russia sat on falses promises and was unable to look past the corner. 10 years later they are now sanctioned, pariah’d, and lost Ukraine to a west backed revolution.
The question you should be asking, is why they did end up delivering it in the end? Was it due to the court case or is there more to this than these simple on the surface facts?
I will tell you, it achieved nothing. Like a fly that flies at a lamp light in the night. Russian is in a vicious cycle of committing the same mistakes over and over and getting the same results. Realpolitik or not.
Like I said earlier, I never said their actions would end being in their benefit in the long term. All I said was that from their perspective, they were doing it in their interests. There are factors to consider that we are simply not aware of. Who knows what deals were being made behind the scenes between the Russians and Israelis etc.
Initially you might be better off making that practical move, but in the end you might see your Queen has been checkmated to a longer thinking opponent.
I agree. Whether their actions end up biting them in the long term is one factor to consider. But at the end of the day, these people have their calculations and we have ours. Sadly for people like you and I, we will never have enough information to see the full picture. Too much is happening behind the scenes.