Iranian Air Defense Systems

[skyshadow]

Usually such critical systems are not shown. I mean its a key system to break the U.S airpower kill-chain, by targeting the support aircrafts.
A main task of the IRGC-ASF to lessen the pressure on IRIAF and IRIADF.
Wonder where that info comes from.

if they unveil it as anti ballistic missile defense then no one will suspect until told otherwise , IRGC hasn't unveiled an air defense system for almost 6 years now its only logical for them to be working on something big much bigger then 3th of khordad. when IRGC unveil prototype for sevome khordad they were already working on Alam Al Hoda and a big missile called Sadid 630

Yeah, @skyshadow where is the source?

As @TheImmortal mentioned, I am also betting on Sadid 630 missile (part of Al Hoda system?) as the candidate. We havent heard anything from this system since the posters.

could be, they also had Fateh family of ballistic missile in mind for that roll too

https://twitter.com/x/status/1400516231879290884

 

[TheImmortal]

Alam Al Hoda is for bombers at long ranges this one has a Terminal High Altitude Area Defense roll in mind

You don’t build a long range missile to intercept a bomber. An S-200 can do that job just fine.

Sadid-630 is a BM converted to ABM with the main goal of endoatmospheric interception since if it is based on somewhat on F-110 and Taer-2 then it cannot leave the atmosphere to engage a target.

 

[Stryker1982]

I remember a poll earlier on the Iranian military section a few months back that asked when an anti-sat killer would be introduced, I picked after >2025, but seems like Iran is closer than expected.

 

[skyshadow]

You don’t build a long range missile to intercept a bomber. An S-200 can do that job just fine.

Sadid-630 is a BM converted to ABM with the main goal of endoatmospheric interception since if it is based on somewhat on F-110 and Taer-2 then it cannot leave the atmosphere to engage a target.

agreed but we have too little information to work with here, 200 km for a bomber or a AWACS is not long range 400-600 km has much more aria denial for them.

I remember a poll earlier on the Iranian military section a few months back that asked when an anti-sat killer would be introduced, I picked after >2025, but seems like Iran is closer than expected.

in recent space documentary they add IRGC to the list after India, IRGC said now we don't just hit there drone we hit there satellite too

 

[agarrao a las kalandrakas]

agreed but we have too little information to work with here, 200 km for a bomber or a AWACS is not long range 400-600 km has much more aria denial for them.

Exactly. 200-250 km range (s200) is NOT enough for striking AWACS, tankers... They would far away than 200 kms.

it would be innovative to develop a MRBM (aprox. 600-800 km range) with real time data link (with VHF and other BIG BIG over the horizon radars, Iran has very good ones) and ARH (even IR homing) to chase in the last phase.

In case of war, you detect (with your powerful over the horizon radars, VHF etc) AWACS, tankers, etc. Far away (let's say 600 km). You shoot 2-3 Extreme Long Range SAM missiles at one target. They fly in a ballistic path at extreme high speed (>mach 10), a tanker or AWACS will not travel very far in 2-3 mins. The real time data link would allow some little corrections (but maybe this point would not be required if the missile radome is able to detect some big bird 50 kms away).
Once missile has arrived to big bird flying zone, it can change path from ballistic to gliding and chasing (even this point is not strictly necessary, AIM-54 performed striking from top position and diving at extreme speed) .

 

[skyshadow]

Exactly. 200-250 km range (s200) is NOT enough for striking AWACS, tankers... They would far away than 200 kms.

it would be innovative to develop a MRBM (aprox. 600-800 km range) with real time data link (with VHF and other BIG BIG over the horizon radars, Iran has very good ones) and ARH (even IR homing) to chase in the last phase.

In case of war, you detect (with your powerful over the horizon radars, VHF etc) AWACS, tankers, etc. Far away (let's say 600 km). You shoot 2-3 Extreme Long Range SAM missiles at one target. They fly in a ballistic path at extreme high speed (>mach 10), a tanker or AWACS will not travel very far in 2-3 mins. The real time data link would allow some little corrections (but maybe this point would not be required if the missile radome is able to detect some big bird 50 kms away).
Once missile has arrived to big bird flying zone, it can change path from ballistic to gliding and chasing (even this point is not strictly necessary, AIM-54 performed striking from top position and diving at extreme speed) .

agreed , that's why we see Russia moving actually in this direction

 

[Messerschmitt]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1402529383257198592

 

[thesaint]

“Joshan” missile system to become operational this year: Cmdr

TEHRAN, Jun. 26 (MNA) – Stating that Army’s Air Defense Force is equipped with emerging sciences such as ‘laser’ and ‘quantum’, the Deputy Commander of the force said that ‘Joshan’ missile system will be put into operation by year end.

en.mehrnews.com

 

[TheImmortal]

“Joshan” missile system to become operational this year: Cmdr

TEHRAN, Jun. 26 (MNA) – Stating that Army’s Air Defense Force is equipped with emerging sciences such as ‘laser’ and ‘quantum’, the Deputy Commander of the force said that ‘Joshan’ missile system will be put into operation by year end.

en.mehrnews.com

Is that a picture of the system or random stock photo?

 

[Saleh99]

“Joshan” missile system to become operational this year: Cmdr

TEHRAN, Jun. 26 (MNA) – Stating that Army’s Air Defense Force is equipped with emerging sciences such as ‘laser’ and ‘quantum’, the Deputy Commander of the force said that ‘Joshan’ missile system will be put into operation by year end.

en.mehrnews.com

We’re waiting for the Pantsir and Tor like ADs, then a new AD and name emerges out of nowhere.

 

[TheImmortal]

We’re waiting for the Pantsir and Tor like ADs, then a new AD and name emerges out of nowhere.

This is army I believe.

Pantsir and Tor will belong to IRGC and Iranian Air defense branch.

 

[husseinibnali]

This is army I believe.

Pantsir and Tor will belong to IRGC and Iranian Air defense branch.

The Separ(Pantsir) and the Ohhab(Tor) systems were both announced by army air defense and not by IRGC.

Joshan system was announced by army air defense too, so IRGC have nothing to do with those projects for now

 

[WudangMaster]

Is that a picture of the system or random stock photo?

I'll bet anything it is a stock photo, given the track record of the media in reporting military thing accurately.

 

[NaCon]

Is that a picture of the system or random stock photo?

Its a photo of THAAD

 

[Mr Iran Eye]

The S-500 in action, the speed of the missile is incredible. Notice at 20 seconds, there is a strange energy optical effect