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you only can hope that the capabilities be the same
those missilr are far more practical than Fakour or Aim-54 that were suggested here for this plane ,sadly we don't have any R-77 and I doubt if anyone will sell them to us and I yet to see any missile in that class in Iran inventory or being worked on by IranIf that's true than it has capability to arm with R-77 and R-73 right?
even a single Fakour can't be carried by the airplane
Iran seriously needed a BVR missile like AiM-120 or R-77, if they still stick with AiM-54 it will be useless against other fighter jetyou only can hope that the capabilities be the same
those missilr are far more practical than Fakour or Aim-54 that were suggested here for this plane ,sadly we don't have any R-77 and I doubt if anyone will sell them to us and I yet to see any missile in that class in Iran inventory or being worked on by Iran
If that's true than it has capability to arm with R-77 and R-73 right?
Fakour is not based on AIM-54 its based more on MIM-23Iran seriously needed a BVR missile like AiM-120 or R-77, if they still stick with AiM-54 it will be useless against other fighter jet
Iran seriously needed a BVR missile like AiM-120 or R-77, if they still stick with AiM-54 it will be useless against other fighter jet
a MIM-23 is 590kg , an AIM-54 is 450-470kg .No ... it cannot !
you must consider one thing , only in Hollywood movies (More likely James Bond Movies)an A2A missile play a cat and Dog chase with airplane . a missile calculate were your airplane will be at the time it reach to the plane and maneuver according to that . you may pull 7g to escape the incoming missile but sadly for you the maneuver that the missile needs to align itself with you may only need 3.5g .Yes the HAWK's are oversized which limits their maneuvering capability and they may be useless against 5th Generation fighters but I wouldn't say they are useless!!!!!!
a MIM-23 is 590kg , an AIM-54 is 450-470kg .
you think how much each pylon on F-5 can carry ?
so no it cant carry the missile unless we strengthen the wing and architecture of airplane dramatically .
An F-5 can carry variety of rocket pods that non of them even come near 250kg when fully loaded
it can carry 4x AIM-9 or 4xAIM120 or 2x AGM-56 in Iran we have R-27 ,R-73 and R-60 in those class
It can carry variety of 250 and 500 pound general purpose bombs it can carry variety of 300-350kg cluster bombs in innermost pylons those three innermost pylon can carry 3x1000 liter fuel tanks but if you use it for anything else your range will become less than half .( the plane carry 2,563 L of fuel internally and those tanks carry 3120 L more fuel for the airplane)
and don't forget two outer pylon can only carry AIM-9 missile
you must consider one thing , only in Hollywood movies (More likely James Bond Movies)an A2A missile play a cat and Dog chase with airplane . a missile calculate were your airplane will be at the time it reach to the plane and maneuver according to that . you may pull 7g to escape the incoming missile but sadly for you the maneuver that the missile needs to align itself with you may only need 3.5g .
But AiM-54 is not manuerevableThe HAWK missiles Iran produces today are NOTHING like the HAWK missiles given to Iran in the 70's and 80's
So don't expect that the AiM-54 will be either at least in terms of tracking and guidance!
But the 1000lb AiM-54 is NOT a good solution for the Kowsar or F-5 mainly because it's just too heavy!
Yes the HAWK's are oversized which limits their maneuvering capability and they may be useless against 5th Generation fighters but I wouldn't say they are useless!!!!!!
If your not being jammed an F-15, F-16 or an F/A-18 carry 8,000 lb on it's wings are NOT going to be any harder to hit than F-1's were during the Iran-Iraq war and they'll either have to release their weapons and run or get shot down!
I wonder who told you guys Aim-54 is not maneuverable , if you mean at the end of its range when it loosing speed then at that range no missile is maneuverable . and why you guys think a missile chase your airplane and copy every maneuver you make with your airplane ? you knew AIM-54a was the first missile that was able to hit a drone target maneuvering at 6g , the missile was designed to answer different type of situation ,included maneuvering targets and AIM-54c was a lot better .But AiM-54 is not maneuverable
And Fakour using the same body of AiM-54 which is questionable whether it is manuevareble or not,but i hear about Sejjil A2A missile,what is it this project about? Is it MiM-23 convert to A2A program?
K thanks because i read other anlaysts says that AiM-54 is not suitable for dog fighthing other fighter jet like F-15 and F-16 and only suitable for firing at bombersI wonder who told you guys Aim-54 is not maneuverable , if you mean at the end of its range when it loosing speed then at that range no missile is maneuverable . and why you guys think a missile chase your airplane and copy every maneuver you make with your airplane ? you knew AIM-54a was the first missile that was able to hit a drone target maneuvering at 6g , the missile was designed to answer different type of situation ,included maneuvering targets and AIM-54c was a lot better .
you see its how Aim-54 works, there is no need to hit target , I assure you there is 0% change that drone or if it was Airplane , Airplane survive
by the way Sedjil was a MIM-23 optimizing for A2A role , its development lead to Fakour missile as AIM-54 body was more Suitable for Air launch than MIM-23 body .
It is a fighter jet not a trainer and this jet is not made in Iran. Iran has been taking deliveries ever since the sanctions were lifted. The news is being made public just now. The signing of the contract was not disclosed due fears of US intervention.
Just some unofficial chatter the jet is of Chinese origin. I don't want to break the suspense but there will be a huge cry after this all.
In some news which is now floating out there it says the purpose of the new jet is to defend Eurasia route and BRI so what ever is going to fly it will have Chinese foot print.