Iran to help Armenia finish transit road that bypasses Azerbaijan

[Khan1988]

Karabakh was reconquered by the Republic of Azarbaijan in 2020. Why should Iran not trade with that region, especially now that it back under the control of Baku? I never heard anyone from the Republic of Azarbaijan object to Iran-Karabakh trade since 2020.

Maybe you are unaware of the ground situation in Karabagh region. Most of the Karabagh region is still controlled by Armenia and protected by Russian troops. Dark Orange is Armenia and lighter Orange is Karabagh region which is populated by Armenians and controlled by Armenia protected by Russian troops. Azerbaijan defeated Armenian occupation Army and cut off Karabagh region from Armenia. Over 70% of Karabagh is still controlled by Armenia.

 

[Rana4pak]

I generally refuse to respond to people whose mindset is already clear to me and I can guess where their hatred for Iran comes from, but do you seriously think that it's hard to obtain an Iranian passport for a person who has millions of dollars in a place like Sistan and Baluchistan of Iran?

All you need to do is bribe some of the officials to issue you one. Sistan and Baluchistan of Iran is a corrupt place like many places in Pakistan. In fact, one may say that culturally they are closer to you guys than they are to us. They still have a tribal mentality and there are powerful families that are respected by everyone in that part of the country because they're afraid of them and they hold a lot of power in those areas. One such family is the Rigi family, for example.

And then there are of course state level actors who can very easily counterfeit documents of other countries, no matter how many security measures you have included in your documents. It is in fact a possibility that Uzair Baluch had Iranian documents with the help of corrupt officials in Pakistan itself. I have heard that some Afghan immigrants and criminals who want to travel to Iran have bought counterfeited Iranian documents which look real and are apparently issued by Pakistan. So, go figure.

If all you have about our support for some criminal in Pakistan is a passport, which can be easily counterfeited, you really need to try harder next time.

On a side node, Kulbushan was handed over to Pakistan by Mullah Omar Irani, a Salafist jihadist affiliated with Jaish ul-Adl with links to Al-Qaeda and Jundullah (whose leader Abdolmalek Rigi was executed). So, if anything, this whole Kulbushan thing proves Pakistan's link to separatist terrorist groups in Iran and that hardly puts you in the position of higher moral ground.

All in all you said you have corrupt officials,corrupt ppls and terrorist have ur passport but Iran is innocent lolx

 

[HalfMoon]

Is Pakistan relevant in Caucasus/West-Asia?

Pakistan will always support Turkiye.

Pakistan and Turkiye are the khalifahs of the 21st century.

 

[dani92]

Define accuse?. We have proof for that, Kalboshan did't come directly from air. You guys are support these element and play innocent. How uzair baloch is having Iranian passport?

You didn’t answer the part that aliyev is a dog of the Zionists who conspire against Islamic country and yet you claim to be Islamic and take the side of that zionist dog?!.

 

[My-Analogous]

Because you are close buddies with Saudis and allow them to sponsor attacks on Iranian borders. That is why.

Iranian Bullshit at its best. Which country of your neighbour happy with you?. Iran harms all her neighbors and then play innocent. Correct your path so that no one react

 

[Surenas]

And now we have the first ever visit of India's FM to Armenia upcoming:

Indian FM to pay first ever visit to Armenia

YEREVAN, OCTOBER 9, ARMENPRESS. Foreign Minister of India Subrahmanyam Jaishankar will pay a visit to Armenia on October 12-13, ARMENPRESS reports the Foreign Ministry of India informed.

armenpress.am

This is what Pakistan foolishly has called upon itself for sticking its nose in Caucasian affairs. Closer relationship between India and Iran, and now Armenia as well.

 

[SalarHaqq]

Maybe you are unaware of the ground situation in Karabagh region. Most of the Karabagh region is still controlled by Armenia and protected by Russian troops. Dark Orange is Armenia and lighter Orange is Karabagh region which is populated by Armenians and controlled by Armenia protected by Russian troops. Azerbaijan defeated Armenian occupation Army and cut off Karabagh region from Armenia. Over 70% of Karabagh is still controlled by Armenia.

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Couple of points:

- I was aware that part of Karabakh remains under Armenian control. Since you hadn't specified which area of Karabakh you meant, I didn't immediately get your point.

- Percentage-wise, it's the other way around: Azarbaijan Republic regained over 70% of Karabakh. Less than 30% is still in Armenian hands, namely the pink colored zone on the Wikipedia map you posted. Here's the legend of that map:

- That small portion still under Armenian control, like the rest of Karabakh before the 2020 war, does not consider itself to be part of the state of Armenia proper, but defines itself as a distinct sovereign entity by the name of Artsakh, which of course enjoys no international recognition.

- The tax imposed recently by Baku authorities on Iranian trucks does not merely affect goods headed for what remains of self-proclaimed Artsakh, but also hampers Iranian trade with Armenia proper and beyond, with Georgia and Russia. Because taxes are levied on Iranian trucks regardless of their destination. They've been charged these transit fees on a small stretch of the road connecting the towns of Kapan and Goris, both located in the south of Armenia proper. The stretch in question briefly crosses into Azari territory, and that's where Iranian trucks have been stopped by Baku's border guards.

- Regarding trade with the remaining Armenian-controlled enclave within Karabakh, although Baku authorities have complained about it, to the best of my knowledge it isn't illegal, is it? If anything, the ceasefire agreement stipulates in paragraph 9 that "all transport connections in the region shall be unblocked". See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Nagorno-Karabakh_ceasefire_agreement#Terms_of_the_agreement

- Karabakh's trade volume is absolutely minuscule. In 2018, when the entire area was still controlled by Armenians, Karabakh's imports amounted to slightly more than 350.00 USD, its exports to some 200.000 USD, which truly represent insignificant amounts. Now that less than 30% remains under Armenian control, we're probably talking of figures like 100.000 to 200.000 USD at most. And much of these figures probably consists of trade with Armenia proper as well as with Russia. Hence, if Iran really has some trade going with the Armenian-controlled enclave in Karabakh, the value should not exceed a couple tens of thousands of USD.

See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_the_Republic_of_Artsakh

- I'd assume Russia would also trade with this enclave? Why then is the Baku regime taxing Iranian trucks only?

 

[Dariush the Great]

Iranian Bullshit at its best. Which country of your neighbour happy with you?. Iran harms all her neighbors and then play innocent. Correct your path so that no one react

All of our neighbors are puppets of the US. Name one independent neighbor of Iran. All of them are either puppets or host US troops/facilitate US interests etc. That is the core problem.

 

[Foinikas]

All of our neighbors are puppets of the US. Name one independent neighbor of Iran. All of them are either puppets or host US troops/facilitate US interests etc. That is the core problem.

Except of course the Armenians. And that's one reason relations are good with Armenia and NKR.

 

[Dariush the Great]

Except of course the Armenians. And that's one reason relations are good with Armenia and NKR.

Armenia is a puppet of the Americans too. But they are not stupid to damage their relations with Iran.

 

[Foinikas]

Armenia is a puppet of the Americans too. But they are not stupid to damage their relations with Iran.

Now you mean? Because all these years they were with the Russians.

 

[QWECXZ]

Now you mean? Because all these years they were with the Russians.

Pashinyan tries to improve Armenia's relation with the Western countries like France, Israel and the United States. And that's why they lost Karabakh.

 

[Talwar e Pakistan]

This is Iran double standard. She present her self Islamic nation leader but here she is supporting enemy of Islamic nation. She is doing same for us as well. Now all Indian terrorist activities in Pakistan is been facilitate by Iran.

How is Azerbaijan an Islamic nation?

You do realize that a large portion of the Azerbaijan-Iran tensions is due to strong Azerbaijan ties with Israel, right?

 

[Foinikas]

Pashinyan tries to improve Armenia's relation with the Western countries like France, Israel and the United States. And that's why they lost Karabakh.

Yes,he was a traitor from the beginning and he tricked them all. And now he acts like a dictator,shutting off the press and anyone who tries to criticize him even online.

 

[Khan1988]

Couple of points:

- I was aware that part of Karabakh remains under Armenian control. Since you hadn't specified which area of Karabakh you meant, I didn't immediately get your point.

- Percentage-wise, it's the other way around: Azarbaijan Republic regained over 70% of Karabakh. Less than 30% is still in Armenian hands, namely the pink colored zone on the Wikipedia map you posted. Here's the legend of that map:

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Armenia occupied Karabagh region and also other districts of Azerbaijan connecting it to Armenia. After its defeat Armenia had to return all the Azerbaijani lands outside the disputed Karabagh region to Azerbaijan. Those are the lands they returned to Azerbaijan. Nearly 70% Karabagh region is still occupied by the Armenians and protected by the Russian troops.