Iran to execute alleged **** site developer

[Safriz]

This the excactly what is wrong with thşs way of thought... You cannot decide what others may or maynot have. What a ancient logic.

Give them a proper educaion and people can make theşr own decisions in life.

No...if its ancient...doesnt mean its wrong...
men and women have seoerate roles and that is their rightful place...
freedom of women in the west only encourages them to expose more skin so that its a free show for all men..works for men.
then how many single women rause their children on their own in the west?
the numbers are staggering....women in the west bear children AND provide for them at the same time...while our women are generally relieved of this responsibility.

you insist on "consent" when that is a complicatex terminology and not always right...
i see women crying rape every other day..claiming that they consented for sex because they were drunk.....
so how does your universal "consent theory" work here?
and please stop generalizing and stop calling us ignorants...
we understand what you are saying although may not be agreeing with you ...
most of us on this forum have lived their lives in both worlds..in a muslim country...and ina nonmuslim country and our knowledge is not from CNN and google...its practical and from real observation.

 

[anonymus]

Very good, I am sick of these disgusting morons, trashing the net.

Do they force you to visit their site??

How do you know such a disgusting thing exist if you are innocent child who never watches ****?

 

[Deno]

No...if its ancient...doesnt mean its wrong...
men and women have seoerate roles and that is their rightful place...
freedom of women in the west only encourages them to expose more skin so that its a free show for all men..works for men.
then how many single women rause their children on their own in the west?
the numbers are staggering....women in the west bear children AND provide for them at the same time...while our women are generally relieved of this responsibility.

you insist on "consent" when that is a complicatex terminology and not always right...
i see women crying rape every other day..claiming that they consented for sex because they were drunk.....
so how does your universal "consent theory" work here?
and please stop generalizing and stop calling us ignorants...
we understand what you are saying although may not be agreeing with you ...
most of us on this forum have lived their lives in both worlds..in a muslim country...and ina nonmuslim country and our knowledge is not from CNN and google...its practical and from real observation.

I did not call you ignorant, I called ignorant to that person who wrote about me being incest supporter and he is ignorant at best...

Gambit wrote about difference between ''moral'' and legal many times in this thread, I really don't need to explain more about it. If you want to know about it read them again please.

And for the last time,Justbecause women are capable of bearing children does not mean that their main role in life is bearing children. They, like every human, have the right to do whatever they want with their life... You or anybody else with their ''religious morals'', any other extremist, have no right to dicdate them as their/Their God's wish.

 

[A1Kaid]

Safriz, just friendly advice I wouldn't spend any further time debating this "issue". Don't get so worked up about an "issue" you can personally do nothing about, doesn't involve you or your country, it's fine to share your opinion and you've made your point. Best to just move on and let the others quarrel over this.

A1

 

[Safriz]

You obviously do not know what is 'rape' so I will explain in the shortest possible: Rape is NON-CONSENSUAL sex.

So when a **** actress or a prostitute agrees to sex in exchange for money, the sex act is consensual. It does not matter if prostitution is legal or not. You can prosecute the rapist separately from the prostitution charge against the other person. Your mentality is the reason why marital non-consensual sex is not a crime, because your mentality believe that it is the duty of the wife to provide sex whenever the husband demands it. So if a woman engages in sex outside of marriage for ANY reasons, legal or not, rape upon her is legal. Is that how you see it?


Problem in what ways? Moral or legal? Morally? Yes, I would have a problem with that and since genetic problems from incest have a physical effect upon society in the long term, then yes, I would support incestuous relationships to be illegal as well.

it all boils down to agreed norms and laws of the land...which can be different fro
country to country.

the western idea of freedom for women has not createx equality ..it has created another form of inequality...
i will give you an example and want tomnow your opinion on this matter.
A man .. british caucasian non muslim man i knew had this...
his wife got pregnent from some other man...and at the sane time stopped having sex with him....this continued well after child birth...and the man did not have sex for 2 straight years...
while taking care of someone elses child..
then he went out and found anothrr woman..and had regular sex with her.
the wife found out and filed divorce...the court granted it...and she took away half of the mans belongings including the house..

now who is the opressed here? the man..

so there you go...western style freedom hasnt created equality among genders..it has just swng the balance...now the man is opressed

 

[Safriz]

Safriz, just friendly advice I wouldn't spend any further time debating this "issue". Don't get so worked up about an "issue" you can personally do nothing about, doesn't involve you or your country, it's fine to share your opinion and you've made your point. Best to just move on and let the others quarrel over this.

A1

i come here when i have not much to do....at this time i am out with my camera trying to take some shots of city lights while commentingwith my mobile...so no i am not being worked up..
but i agree with you....i have said what i wanted to say and have no more to say....
*zooms on to Manchester lights*

 

[anonymus]

listen lady...before you make such obnoxious claims...try crawling out from under you rock and travel to these countries and meet the people who marry a 15 yo at 70 yo...
btw didnt playboy boss marty many women 3rd or less of his age?
didnt pamella sandersen kept many teenage toyboys when she was over 45?
why not make issue of that instead of picking on muslims all the time.
Poverty makes people do odd things...
when you are hungry you dont see if the man asking you to be his wife is 70 yo..and you are 15
all you see is a person who can feed you and give you shelter...

people from rich countries can sit on their high chairs and sink us in their spit all the time while they are totally ignorant of ground realities.

Safriz,You are from pakistan.You could not be unaware of the fact that these practises are quite prevalent in rural(especially tribal) areas of pakistan.

PS. This was not to bash pakistan as these practices are prevalent in backward rural areas of India also.

 

[anonymus]

Jesus Christ! (PBUH)

it appears that 35-year-old Saeed Malekpour was arrested in Iran in 2008 for developing a piece of software that makes uploading photos to websites easier. According to his wife, Malekpour was unaware that the software was being used for a pornography site and that he was not running the site himself.

so his intention behind the software wasn't for pornography but others used it for pornography. Execution? damn.

Probably the real reason for sentence was that the person made a software which could be used by Greens to easily upload the photos against the regime.Pornography was used as a context so that nobody would speak out against it.Moral sins are like corruption,pornography are usually used to shut-up your political opponents.

 

[gambit]

Probably the real reason for sentence was that the person made a software which could be used by Greens to easily upload the photos against the regime.Pornography was used as a context so that nobody would speak out against it.Moral sins are like corruption,pornography are usually used to shut-up your political opponents.

True. If images about women could be transmitted to eager men in a sexually excited state, then the same method could be used to transmit ideologically and politically volatile information to eager people in excited political discontent. Easier to use **** as a convenient scapegoat.

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it all boils down to agreed norms and laws of the land...which can be different fro
country to country.

the western idea of freedom for women has not createx equality ..it has created another form of inequality...
i will give you an example and want tomnow your opinion on this matter.
A man .. british caucasian non muslim man i knew had this...
his wife got pregnent from some other man...and at the sane time stopped having sex with him....this continued well after child birth...and the man did not have sex for 2 straight years...
while taking care of someone elses child..
then he went out and found anothrr woman..and had regular sex with her.
the wife found out and filed divorce...the court granted it...and she took away half of the mans belongings including the house..

now who is the opressed here? the man..

so there you go...western style freedom hasnt created equality among genders..it has just swng the balance...now the man is opressed

This has at best minor relevance to what we are talking about. When you grant new rights and allow more freedoms, of course people would find creative new ways to abuse what they have for their own gains. May be this is your beef: Rights and freedoms for women.

 

[BelligerentPacifist]

Nice, Iran going the Chinese way on this!

 

[Safriz]

True. If images about women could be transmitted to eager men in a sexually excited state, then the same method could be used to transmit ideologically and politically volatile information to eager people in excited political discontent. Easier to use **** as a convenient scapegoat.

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This has at best minor relevance to what we are talking about. When you grant new rights and allow more freedoms, of course people would find creative new ways to abuse what they have for their own gains. May be this is your beef: Rights and freedoms for women.

it has a the relevance with what we been discussing for the past few pages...flip the pages and you will see the relevance.
our women consent to stay at home and consent to sending us out to earn money....Now you will google and post links of woman abused by husbands in saudia/pakistan/iraq...
and i will quote what you just said....
"of course people would find creative new ways to abuse what they have for their own gains. "
thanyou very much...you answered yorself...have a goid night/day or whatever you are having. :bye:

 

[regular]

OH! Excellent news coming out of Iran....hangup all these evil dvelopers once and for all......very happi to hear such good news every other day......

 

[NeutralCitizen]

**** and married ?

 

[scholseys]

This what happens when you give women too many rights, they ask for the immoral ones the next and the homosexuals support them.

 

[scholseys]

I did not call you ignorant, I called ignorant to that person who wrote about me being incest supporter and he is ignorant at best...

Gambit wrote about difference between ''moral'' and legal many times in this thread, I really don't need to explain more about it. If you want to know about it read them again please.

And for the last time,Justbecause women are capable of bearing children does not mean that their main role in life is bearing children. They, like every human, have the right to do whatever they want with their life... You or anybody else with their ''religious morals'', any other extremist, have no right to dicdate them as their/Their God's wish.

yes ignorant because i do not support your western logic. since you are such a liberatarian then why dont you support incest, how is that different from prostitution? where do you draw the line? your state is so much full of liberty and freedom that it took away a woman's right to wear hijab.

women have the right to do anything as long as they do it modestly, same with men. **** is not modest. i hope you let your daughter become a hooker if she wants or encourage her if she considers going into this business.