Iran sports thread

[Abii]

Here is news from the wrestling world, Iran just became greco-roman world champions:

2014 World Wrestling Championships - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And second in freestyle.

Hamid Sourian also became Iran's most decorated wrestler in history.

 

[Hack-Hook]

Wait, this is in the Asian Games?

LOL WUT? Is this the normal roster or did they send some random rejects? Haven't kept up with TM news since the World Cup.

well as far as I'm concerned
if they cut all the budget they are spending on football and spend it on other sports we can get 30 time more medal .
Even better if they would have spend that money and open agricultural complexes we didn't need to import our food any longer .

 

[Abii]

well as far as I'm concerned
if they cut all the budget they are spending on football and spend it on other sports we can get 30 time more medal .
Even better if they would have spend that money and open agricultural complexes we didn't need to import our food any longer .

The problem is actually government involvement in the sport. In every other country, football clubs are run like a business, no different than a company. Football clubs are a source of income for their owners and share holders. In Iran, they're government run, like everything else; and like everything else it doesn't work.

The whole football infrastructure in the country is set up the same way Iran's economy is set up. On top of that, because of a lack of a true private ownership structure, as well as a lack of a free market economy at large, these clubs are always broke. Financially struggling clubs that can't even pay their players on time obviously won't have cash to build training schools and academies nor will they spend money in their communities to develop young talent.

In Iran everybody likes to say that too much money is spent on football. Well, the solution is very simple: a free market economy with true private ownership. These clubs are actually EXTREMELY poor by world standards, but to keep the sport alive and allow Iran to compete internationally, the govt is forced to keep them alive artificially.

Let's look at a British club and its source of incomes:

1) TV and media - every channel that shows footage of a specific club must reimburse the club (after all the channel is financially benefiting and creating a business from the club, so they must give them a cut of the business).

2) Sponsorship deals - this is obvious, but what isn't obvious to most people in Iran is the extent to which clubs get paid. Manchester United, for example, will receive 1.3 BILLION dollars from Adidas for only a 10 year deal (starting in 2015-16). This is just so they can provide United with kits. In Iran clubs pay the kit manufacturers lool. Then you have the revenue from allowing ads to run in their own stadiums and on their kits etc...

3) Ticket sales - most foreign clubs pay for their own stadiums, but in return they set their ticket prices. Most tickets in England cost well over 100 dollars for even the worst seats (most bigger clubs charge 200-300 dollars per game easy).

4) Video games, kit and memorabilia sales, fan goods etc... - everything from FIFA games to official jerseys, flags, team mugs with the team logo etc... makes them money

5) Success in their leagues and continental tournaments - the league itself, in most countries around the world, is run like a private business and they're motivated to bring in more income through growing interest in the sport and the league itself. They pay clubs handsomely for success as doing good brings in more viewers to the sport and the league in general.

And I can go on and on. So again, our football is no different than the rest of the country: It's *** backward and it needs a revolution. You can't fix stupid. You need to slap it in the face and start over. Our clubs are piss poor with no cash to even pay their current rosters. Half of these clubs are bankrupt and they can barely provide an annual salary. That means no grassroots development, no community involvement, no football schools, no talent development, no R&D spending (just like with anything else, football needs modernization and if you can't spend money on new ideas, you stay behind), no modern infrastructure, no modern coaching techniques, no modern equipment etc...

Of course at the national level we end up falling behind. Other countries aren't like Iran.

 

[rmi5]

@Abii @New @rahi2357
Agha, ghaziyeh ye in team e omid chiyeh? man har site e irani ke miram, yeki daareh be inhaa fohsh mide.
فرکي: تيم اميد آبروي ما را در دنيا برد | ورزش 3

che kaar e gheyr e farhangi dobaareh kardan?!!! dobaareh hamdigaro angosht kardan?!!!

 

[Hack-Hook]

@Abii @New @rahi2357
Agha, ghaziyeh ye in team e omid chiyeh? man har site e irani ke miram, yeki daareh be inhaa fohsh mide.
فرکي: تيم اميد آبروي ما را در دنيا برد | ورزش 3

che kaar e gheyr e farhangi dobaareh kardan?!!! dobaareh hamdigaro angosht kardan?!!!

Nothing important , they just loose to Vietnam 4-1 and then they have mistaken football by Street-Fighting

 

[Hack-Hook]

The problem is actually government involvement in the sport. In every other country, football clubs are run like a business, no different than a company. Football clubs are a source of income for their owners and share holders. In Iran, they're government run, like everything else; and like everything else it doesn't work.

The whole football infrastructure in the country is set up the same way Iran's economy is set up. On top of that, because of a lack of a true private ownership structure, as well as a lack of a free market economy at large, these clubs are always broke. Financially struggling clubs that can't even pay their players on time obviously won't have cash to build training schools and academies nor will they spend money in their communities to develop young talent.

In Iran everybody likes to say that too much money is spent on football. Well, the solution is very simple: a free market economy with true private ownership. These clubs are actually EXTREMELY poor by world standards, but to keep the sport alive and allow Iran to compete internationally, the govt is forced to keep them alive artificially.

Let's look at a British club and its source of incomes:

1) TV and media - every channel that shows footage of a specific club must reimburse the club (after all the channel is financially benefiting and creating a business from the club, so they must give them a cut of the business).

2) Sponsorship deals - this is obvious, but what isn't obvious to most people in Iran is the extent to which clubs get paid. Manchester United, for example, will receive 1.3 BILLION dollars from Adidas for only a 10 year deal (starting in 2015-16). This is just so they can provide United with kits. In Iran clubs pay the kit manufacturers lool. Then you have the revenue from allowing ads to run in their own stadiums and on their kits etc...

3) Ticket sales - most foreign clubs pay for their own stadiums, but in return they set their ticket prices. Most tickets in England cost well over 100 dollars for even the worst seats (most bigger clubs charge 200-300 dollars per game easy).

4) Video games, kit and memorabilia sales, fan goods etc... - everything from FIFA games to official jerseys, flags, team mugs with the team logo etc... makes them money

5) Success in their leagues and continental tournaments - the league itself, in most countries around the world, is run like a private business and they're motivated to bring in more income through growing interest in the sport and the league itself. They pay clubs handsomely for success as doing good brings in more viewers to the sport and the league in general.

And I can go on and on. So again, our football is no different than the rest of the country: It's *** backward and it needs a revolution. You can't fix stupid. You need to slap it in the face and start over. Our clubs are piss poor with no cash to even pay their current rosters. Half of these clubs are bankrupt and they can barely provide an annual salary. That means no grassroots development, no community involvement, no football schools, no talent development, no R&D spending (just like with anything else, football needs modernization and if you can't spend money on new ideas, you stay behind), no modern infrastructure, no modern coaching techniques, no modern equipment etc...

Of course at the national level we end up falling behind. Other countries aren't like Iran.

Well its not all of it .there is a mafia in football that if they don't destroy it nothing will change no matter how many time you privitize it .

 

[The SiLent crY]

برنامه کامل مسابقات کشتي اينچئون

برنامه رقابتهای کشتی بازی‌های آسیایی اینچئون کره‌جنوبی طی روزهای 4 تا 9 مهرماه برگزار می‌شودف به شرح زیر است:

به نقل از مهر، برنامه کامل این رقابتها به شرح زیر است:

جمعه 4 مهرماه:
ساعت 17 تا 17:30: وزن کشی اوزان 57 و 70 کیلوگرم کشتی آزاد

شنبه 5 مهرماه:
ساعت 13 تا 21: مسابقات مقدماتی، رده بندی و فینال اوزان 57 و 70 کیلوگرم کشتی آزاد
ساعت 18 تا 18:30: وزن کشی اوزان 65 و 97 کیلوگرم کشتی آزاد

یکشنبه 6 مهرماه:
ساعت 13 تا 21: مسابقات مقدماتی، رده بندی و فینال اوزان 65 و 97 کیلوگرم کشتی آزاد
ساعت 18 تا 18:30: وزن کشی اوزان 61، 74، 86 و 125 کیلوگرم کشتی آزاد

دوشنبه 7 مهرماه:
ساعت 13 تا 21: مسابقات مقدماتی، رده بندی و فینال اوزان 61، 74، 86 و 125 کیلوگرم کشتی آزاد
ساعت 18 تا 18:30: وزن کشی اوزان 59، 71، 80 و 98 کیلوگرم کشتی فرنگی

سه شنبه 8 مهرماه:
ساعت 13 تا 21: مسابقات مقدماتی، رده بندی و فینال اوزان 59، 71، 80 و 98 کیلوگرم کشتی فرنگی
ساعت 18 تا 18:30: وزن کشی اوزان 66، 75، 85 و 130 کیلوگرم کشتی فرنگی

چهارشنبه 9 مهرماه:
ساعت 13 تا 21: مسابقات مقدماتی، رده بندی و فینال اوزان 66، 75، 85 و 130 کیلوگرم کشتی فرنگی

اختلاف ساعت ایران و کره‌جنوبی چهار و نیم ساعت است به طوری که ساعت 13 به وقت کره 8:30 به وقت ایران است.

 

[New]

@Abii @New @rahi2357
Agha, ghaziyeh ye in team e omid chiyeh? man har site e irani ke miram, yeki daareh be inhaa fohsh mide.
فرکي: تيم اميد آبروي ما را در دنيا برد | ورزش 3
che kaar e gheyr e farhangi dobaareh kardan?!!! dobaareh hamdigaro angosht kardan?!!!

Agha in jamaate nekbato vel kon man osoulan akhbaresho peygiri nemikonam amma ino bekhooni fekr konam jaleb bashe
تدارکاتچی تیم امید ممنوع الخروج شد - شهر خبر | قطره

 

[Serpentine]

What happens if we beat France 3-0 tomorrow night? All 3 teams will have 3 points, so which 2 of them will go up?

 

[Hack-Hook]

What happens if we beat France 3-0 tomorrow night? All 3 teams will have 3 points, so which 2 of them will go up?

I doubt we can do that .
If we could even get 1 point of this match.

 

[Gilamard]

I still can't believe it. Don't want to sound harsh but playing like that at this stage of the competition is almost an insult to their fans. They came out of the hardest pools (round 1 and 2) and screwed things up against an inferior team like Germany! this isn't only the defeat but the way they gave all the 3 sets was ridiculous and now there is no hope left for making it to the semifinals.
I hope they will play their last 2 games with motivation and gheirat so they can leave Poland with their heads held high

 

[The SiLent crY]

Today , Iran vs Russia .

I don't think the result matters here . Our team has done well .

I hope this team wins the Gold medal in Incheon .

 

[The SiLent crY]

لیست مدال ها :

Asian Games 2014 Medals Tally | Incheon South Korea 2014 | Asian Games Medal Table | NDTVSports.com

 

[Gilamard]

Today , Iran vs Russia .

I don't think the result matters here . Our team has done well .

I hope this team wins the Gold medal in Incheon .

dude, it's was consolation match and their 3rd consecutive defeat. not a very good ending.
going to the asian games after a win against Russia would have been great!

 

[The SiLent crY]

I fear our Volleyball team underestimate Asian teams and screws there . ( The same thing happened against Germany a few days ago and against Australia before the Olympics ) .

I hope our players realize that Asian Games will not be for fun but a very important challenge to win the Gold for the first time ) .

I'm worried about overconfidence


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نتايج‌‌نمايندگان ايران در روز اول بازي‌هاي آسيايي

کاروان کشورمان نخستين روز بازي‌هاي آسيايي اينچئون را بدون کسب مدال به پايان رساند.

به نقل از فارس، نخستین روز از هفدهمین دوره بازی‌های آسیایی اینچئون در حالی امروز به میزبانی کره جنوبی به پایان رسید که نتایج نمایندگان کشورمان به شرح زیر است:

تپانچه:
* تیم تپانچه 50 متر مردان در بازی‌های آسیایی هفتم شد.

روئینگ:
* تیم روئینگ 4 نفره مردان در مرحله مقدماتی بازی‌های آسیایی چهارم شد و به مرحله رپه شارژ راه پیدا کرد.
* تیم روئینگ 4 نفره بانوان در بازی‌های آسیایی در مرحله مقدماتی در گروه خود دوم شد و به مرحله رپه‌شارژ راه پیدا کرد.

اسلحه اپه:
* علی یعقوبیان که از صبح امروز مسابقات خود را در انفرادی اسلحه اپه آغاز کرده بود با توجه به یک برد مقابل مغولستان و 5 باخت مقابل حریفانی از قرقیزستان، قزاقستان، کره، ویتنام و قطر از ادامه مسابقات حذف شد.
* محمد رضایی دومین نماینده ایران در اسلحه اپه از گردونه رقابت‌ها حذف شد.

جودو:
* نماینده وزن 60 کیلوگرم تیم ملی جودو با شکست مقابل نماینده کره جنوبی از دور رقابت‌ها حذف شد.

تراپ مردان:
* بابک یگانه در مسابقات تراپ مردان بازی‌های آسیایی در نخستین روز نوزدهم شد.

دوچرخه سواری:
* تیم ملی دوچرخه سواری اسپرینت در پایان رقابت‌های این ماده به مقام چهارم دست یافت.

وزنه‌برداری:
* وزنه‌بردار دسته 56 کیلوی کشورمان در حرکات یکضرب در رده پنجم بازی‌های آسیایی قرار گرفت.
* وزنه‌بردار دسته 56 کیلوی کشورمان با حضور در رده ششم به کار خود در رقابت‌های دسته 56 کیلوگرم پایان داد.

ووشو:
* الهه منصوریان نماینده وزن 52 کیلوگرم تیم ملی ووشوی بانوان در نخستین دیدار خود نماینده اندونزی را شکست داد و به دور دوم راه یافت.
* اکبر محمدزاده نماینده وزن 60 کیلوگرم تیم ملی ساندای مردان در نخستین دیدار خود مقابل نماینده چین شکست خورد و از دور رقابت‌ها حذف شد.
* احسان پیغمبری نماینده ایران در تالو، در بازی‌های آسیایی اینچئون با امتیاز 9.51 ششم شد و شانس مدال را از دست داد.