Iran shows film of captured US drone

[Birbal]

There is big difference between downing and landing it. I am happy to agree its a great windfall for the Iranians, Russian or Chinese, but for me to be naive enough to believe, that without any comprehensive actual operator training, to land such a piece of equipment perfectly is impossible. I think you are not aware of how much training goes into just learning how to operate one and land normally in peacetime.

I don't think you understand the level of operation that a drone is capable off. The Iranians probably jammed the American signal. Normally this would cause the drone to return to base. But they probably either jammed the GPS signals or sent false GPS signals to make the drone think it was back home. And the drone probably landed itself.

i am not on drugs- this sh!t is fake-

Even the American government admitted losing the drone...

 

[W.11]

stfu with this wahabi ****- you damned shia- dont get me started on this- you khameni lick a55-

i think the guy deserved this repy, but he is right that when USA says they lost their plane, then the plane might not be fake

also it takes some engineering and technical know how to make plane like the shown one, so i dont think iran has proper knowledge about even building some fake and display it, otherwise all the world would not have been confused like this

this sems to be a genuine plane

i think USA is testing some new technologies and they are failing and falling into enemy hands, do you remember the bird drone??

 

[Always Neutral]

there is one major thing wrong with your arguement. This drone doesn't have an operator. It flies by itself.

This where your mistaken. When the drone is in the air it is controlled via a satellite link from a remote operating station. But during start and landing the drone is piloted via line-of-sight radio by an operator near the start or landing field. This is necessary because the remote satellite link has a delay of several hundred milliseconds which is just too much latency to correct wind sheer and other problems during takeoff and landing. No drone ever takes off and lands on remote.

 

[Birbal]

An american drone did get down- probably of technical reasons-
A downed drone does't look like this-

They always said they downed it by hacking it. Some of the Western media misquoted this as "shot down", but Iran never claimed to have shot it down.

Another assumption that is was forced to land- Thats just ridiculous-

Actually it's the only explanation that actually makes sense for why the drone didn't return to base as it should.

 

[Secur]

An american drone did get down- probably of technical reasons-
A downed drone does't look like this-

Another assumption that is was forced to land- Thats just ridiculous-

So you have decided to side with US this time ?

Ok yes an american drone got down ... If it crashed due to any malfunction , then it shouldn't be in one piece
But if it was forced to land , as official Iranian reports and various western sources seem to indicate , then it should be like this as it is shown in the video in one piece ...

So pick your choice ! Get out of that " US technology has no shortcomings " thinking and accept the reality ...
and whats ridiculous ?

 

[Always Neutral]

I don't think you understand the level of operation that a drone is capable off. The Iranians probably jammed the American signal. Normally this would cause the drone to return to base. But they probably either jammed the GPS signals or sent false GPS signals to make the drone think it was back home. And the drone probably landed itself. ...

Its obvious your knowledge is limited. When the drone is in the air it is controlled via a satellite link from a remote operating station and can be preprogrammed. But during start and landing the drone is piloted via line-of-sight radio by an operator near the start or landing field. This is necessary because the remote satellite link has a delay of several hundred milliseconds which is just too much latency to correct wind sheer and other problems during takeoff and landing.

 

[Birbal]

Its obvious your knowledge is limited. When the drone is in the air it is controlled via a satellite link from a remote operating station and can be preprogrammed. But during start and landing the drone is piloted via line-of-sight radio by an operator near the start or landing field. This is necessary because the remote satellite link has a delay of several hundred milliseconds which is just too much latency to correct wind sheer and other problems during takeoff and landing.

It's obvious you're not an aerospace engineer, which I am... At the vary least, this drone would have to have a built in stability system. It likely also has the ability to land itself (which is not that difficult to program and is a very useful backup).

Anyways, what exactly are you claiming now? That the drone was magically placed on the ground by God? That American operators landed it in Iran?

Cause the fact is that America lost control of it and it landed in Iran. You can argue all you want about how this is impossible but the evidence and statements from both parties clearly proves you're wrong.

 

[Always Neutral]

You just admitted it has the capability to land itself. Which is exactly what it did. End of argument!

Are you deluded? Read my post again.

 

[JonAsad]

So you have decided to side with US this time ?

Ok yes an american drone got down ... If it crashed due to any malfunction , then it shouldn't be in one piece
But if it was forced to land , as official Iranian reports and various western sources seem to indicate , then it should be like this as it is shown in the video in one piece ...

So pick your choice ! Get out of that " US technology has no shortcomings " thinking and accept the reality ...
and whats ridiculous ?

It has nothing to do with siding with any one-
and It has nothing to with "US technology has no shortcomings"-

Its simple logic-
Iranians does not have the technology to force land a drone that too perfectly-

 

[Always Neutral]

It's obvious you're not an aerospace engineer, which I am... At the vary least, this drone would have to have a built in stability system. It likely also has the ability to land itself (which is not that difficult to program and is a very useful backup).

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If you are an aerospace Engineer, I am Einstein. Let me know when you have a link for the joke you post here.

 

[Secur]

Its simple logic-
Iranians does not have the technology to force land a drone that too perfectly-

So what happened then ? Why is it in one piece now ?
Iran has achieved a milestone ...

Believe it or continue denial mode ...

 

[Birbal]

If you are an aerospace Engineer, I am Einstein. Let me know when you have a link for the joke you post here.

Google this up yourself, or go read an aerospace textbook if you don't believe me. A flying wingbody aircraft has negative static stability. It requires a built in stability augmentation system, especially if you're flying it by remote operation. As for self-landing drones, I have friends who have designed landing algorithms for UAVs (granted, these are college competition UAVs, not 6 million dollar super stealth UAVs).

Anyways, you still haven't answered what you think happened to the drone. Are you claiming that God landed it?

 

[Always Neutral]

@ the wahabi calling me a "damned shia" (reported btw), I'm not a shia or a sunni. You should have called me a kafir instead.

@ always, in either case, a technical malfunction is out of the question. A drone, no matter how it's designed to land, doesn't drop from 5000 feet and stay so intact.

Thats a mystery which will be solved. The Iranians do have a very good Russian ECM jammer, which can jam the US Operators Signal, but anybody who has landed in a Plane knows the Pilot takes immediate action to correct for wind shear etc. A satellite signal even several milli second delays can have a catastrophic effect during landing or take off but will probably have no effect during flight. For your information all UAV's are landed manually. At the best you can affect a crash landing of the drone but never a perfect landing without direct control. Miracles of landing in wrong airfields have taken place many times as recently a Helicopter of the Indian Army landed on a PA helo pad inspite of having a GPS. If you read a little bit about Military History a Fighter Jet crashlanded intact 200 miles away after his pilot ejected. You may wish to google that.

 

[Birbal]

Thats a mystery which will be solved. The Iranians do have a very good Russian ECM jammer, which can jam the US Operators Signal, but anybody who has landed in a Plane knows the Pilot takes immediate action to correct for wind shear etc. A satellite signal even several milli second delays can have a catastrophic effect during landing or take off but will probably have no effect during flight. For your information all UAV's are landed manually. At the best you can affect a crash landing of the drone but never a perfect landing without direct control. Miracles of landing in wrong airfields have taken place many times as recently a Helicopter of the Indian Army landed on a PA helo pad inspite of having a GPS. If you read a little bit about Military History a Fighter Jet crashlanded intact 200 miles away after his pilot ejected. You may wish to google that.

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[Oldman1]

So they manage to get their hands on the crashed drone after all. After so many years of propaganda they finally got one to tell the truth. Don't surprise me that it crashed since the U.S. Air Force have crashed many before. The Iranians never took it over as they claimed. If they did, then they would have about a hundred drones from Iraq and Afghanistan right?

How many drones did the Pakistanis take over as many have crashed in Pakistan?