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Man this thread has turned into an allout war every where trolling, flaming, false flag operations etc mods plz close it

 

[SOHEIL]

The time when you were begging NK and China to sell you bullets, Iraq was in the middle of his Space program:

Iraqi bird: Beyond Saddam’s space program

Launching a satellite into orbit has long been a status symbol. Although countries have been doing this for the past five decades, only a small percentage of the countries around the world are capable of such a feat. More of them are capable of building their own satellites, but even this number is relatively limited. Because of its rarity such an accomplishment still has a certain allure for less-developed nations whose leaders use such achievements to demonstrate their country’s technological sophistication to the world and their own prowess to their populace, even if—perhaps especially—that populace has no say in their country’s choice of government. During the 1980s the government of Saddam Hussein sought to develop an indigenous space program and then ran head first into external political roadblocks that made this impossible. Until recently, the details of this effort have been obscure and unknown to the world. A few years ago a United Nations arms control report revealed some information on Iraqi efforts in the late 1980s to develop a rocket capable of launching a satellite (See: “Saddam’s space program”, The Space Review, October 26, 2009). Now, new details have emerged about Iraqi efforts in the period 1988–1991 to develop small satellites to fly atop those rockets.

The research center’s plan was to launch one of the satellites aboard an Ariane 4 rocket, and the spacecraft designers used an Ariane 44L vehicle as their baseline.
The details of the Iraqi satellite effort are contained in a presentation made by one of the former scientists involved in the program at a recent small satellite conference. According to Sarmad D.S. Dawood of the Space Applications Center of the Space Technology Directorate within Iraq’s Ministry of Science & Technology in Baghdad, from 1988 until 1990 Iraq’s Scientific Research Council established a research center to develop space technology. The research center started the Al-Ta’ir project, which means “The Bird” in Arabic (although the name, which is also applied to a star in the constellation Aquila, also apparently translates as “flying eagle&#8221. Al-Ta’ir was a small experimental satellite for conducting communications and ranging experiments. It would have operated in the VHF and UHF amateur frequency ranges.

Dawood stated that the research center built two identical flight ready satellites. Surprisingly, the satellites still exist and are in storage at the Ministry of Science & Technology in Baghdad. The project also included a tracking, control, and communications station.

The research center’s plan was to launch one of the satellites aboard an Ariane 4 rocket, and the spacecraft designers used an Ariane 44L vehicle as their baseline. Their plan was to launch the satellite into an orbit of 350–400 kilometers, presumably as a secondary payload. One aspect of this plan that remains confusing is that the Ariane 4 only flew to polar low Earth orbit or to geostationary transfer orbit. Presumably the Iraqi engineers would have preferred a low inclination low Earth orbit to maximize the time the satellite flew over their country, but the Ariane 4 never demonstrated this capability.

The satellite was an octagon with a height of 47 centimeters, a diameter of 74 centimeters, and a mass of 75 kilograms. It looks somewhat like a 1970s-era disco-themed coffee table. The interior of the satellite was divided into four bays for holding electronic boxes and withstanding the shock and vibration of launch. The satellite was solar powered, with seven solar panels and backup batteries.

The satellite subsystems included an onboard data handling system, a radio frequency communication system composed of VHF and UHF amateur band units that communicated voice and telemetry and telecommand data, and an attitude control system. Thermal control was passive, using light and dark paint.

The satellite was spin-stabilized. Attitude control would have been accomplished with a technique first developed by the United States military in the early 1960s consisting of two coils mounted on the top and bottom sides of the spacecraft. These coils would interact with the Earth’s magnetic field, keeping the satellite properly oriented.

According to Dawood, the program came to a halt as Iraq’s deteriorating relationship with the western world prevented the country from obtaining access to the Ariane 4. What remains unclear is if the Al-Ta’ir satellite was also intended for launch aboard Iraq’s indigenous satellite launching vehicle, the Al Abid. On December 5, 1989, Iraq launched a 25-meter long rocket from a launch pad 230 kilometers southwest of Baghdad. This was a test of the first stage of the Al Abid and the second and third stages were only mockups.

The United Nations Monitoring, Verification and Inspection Commission, known as UNMOVIC, obtained a number of Iraqi documents in 1995 providing information on Iraqi missile and rocket programs. According to UNMOVIC, Iraq began development of the Al Abid in 1988. The Commission stated that this was a result of Iraq’s failure to gain a cooperative agreement with another country. It seems likely that after being rebuffed by the French government or Arianespace over the use of the Ariane 4, Iraq began development of its own rocket. Al Abid reportedly had several names, including Comet and Al-Ta’ir—either the rocket and satellite programs shared the same name, or UNMOVIC confused the two.

Iraq’s Space Research Corporation initially began studying development of a launch vehicle capable of placing a payload of 100–300 kilograms into an orbit of 200–500 kilometers, although UNMOVIC reported that the planned initial payload was only 50 kilograms. Iraqi engineers chose to develop a clustered rocket design. The third stage diameter was 1.25 meters, more than sufficient to carry the 0.74-meter diameter Al-Ta’ir satellite.

Since Hussein’s overthrow and the formation of a new Iraqi government, the engineers who worked on Al-Ta’ir have been training new staff about modern satellite technology.
After the December 1989 test Iraqi engineers decided to test the Al Abid’s second and third stages separately and planned further tests for the fall of 1990. However, Iraq’s invasion of Kuwait in August 1990 and the subsequent military response led by the United States halted all further efforts. According to Dawood, from 1991 to 2003, Iraq continued designing subsystems for more advanced satellite missions such as remote sensing spacecraft. The country’s engineers conducted simulation and modeling of subsystems, including digital imaging cameras. That work halted after the 2003 American invasion of Iraq.

Since Hussein’s overthrow and the formation of a new Iraqi government, the engineers who worked on Al-Ta’ir have been training new staff about modern satellite technology. They are looking into new concepts such as cubesats, and considering international collaboration. Perhaps in the next few years Iraq will be able to build its first satellite and launch it aboard a foreign rocket, achieving a goal first established over two decades ago.

And after 25 years, Iranians struggling to reach that level...good luck..lool

HA HA HA HA HA ... !

saddam !

 

[lem34]

Well quite frankly it is mainly due to the fact that we grow up with each other. With Egyptian/Moroccan/Lebanese/Jordanian/Iraqi people. So when we hear good news about them we imagine a loved one we have from there. .

What about your or should I say our Palestinian brothers? What about Lebanese Muslims who your king offered Americans to start a a Taliban type of militia to fight and kill Muslims

Saudi plan for anti-Hezbollah force
Cable leak reveals Saudi plan of setting up an Arab force to fight Hezbollah with the help of the US, UN and Nato.

Saudi plan for anti-Hezbollah force - Middle East - Al Jazeera English

back to topic American allies are unhappy about the Islamic Republics achievements

 

[SOHEIL]

He was talking about the regime not the people stop putting words in his mouth will you??



So he said something disrespectful about Iran achievements and you replied by insulting the entire country and people???

oooh ! again oh !

OK ! we are kafir !

 

[lem34]

And then you people claim that you are not insulting us...

Ah well same old same old.

I am speaking the truth. Did your scientists not say this? I only say this cos I see so much hatred you have for other Muslims

 

[Mosamania]

What about your or should I say our Palestinian brothers? What about Lebanese Muslims who your king offered Americans to start a a Taliban type of militia to fight and kill Muslims

Saudi plan for anti-Hezbollah force
Cable leak reveals Saudi plan of setting up an Arab force to fight Hezbollah with the help of the US, UN and Nato.

Saudi plan for anti-Hezbollah force - Middle East - Al Jazeera English

back to topic American allies are unhappy about the Islamic Republics achievements

Hizzboullah carried out terrorist bombings in Saudi Arabia. So we are justified to be extremely against it.

 

[Arian]

That's the thing, I don't see Iran as an Islamic country. I just see a sectarian government ruling a non-religious society and aims at controlling the ME(read my other thread). So, no as long as your current government is in power, there will be no unity in the ME. Your perception of unity, is submission of other countries to you(e.g Iraq). So stop with the Islamic brotherhood BS.

I knew it, I just needed you to confirm it

The time when you were begging NK and China to sell you bullets, Iraq was in the middle of his Space program:
And after 25 years, Iranians struggling to reach that level...good luck..lool

LOL. You're still begging the west for that and nothing has come out yet.
To reach what level? To reach the level of having sent nothing to space?
Black finch strikes again

 

[IbnAlwaled]

back to topic American allies are unhappy about the Islamic Republics achievements

What!! I thought you were happy about Iran's achievement!

 

[Mosamania]

I am speaking the truth. Did your scientists not say this? I only say this cos I see so much hatred you have for other Muslims

Nope they did not. He was not a scientists he had a PhD in something like literature or something like that and he wasthe laughing stock of the country for quite a while. Why do you keep bringing that up as "Evidence of scientists"??

Why not bring all the other things Saudi scientists have achieved this year alone?? I told you this before yet you who clearly have so much hatred for other Muslims refuse to let it go. Tell me why do you hate Saudis so much?? Oh I get it we are not Muslim in your eyes. We are Kafirs nothng but dirty stinky smelly desrty dusty Arabs and don't you dare deny it. Your best friend S-19 said it himself "Arabs are dirty and they smell".

 

[lem34]

That's the thing, I don't see Iran as an Islamic country. .

That says it all mate

 

[SOHEIL]

What!! I thought you were happy about Iran's achievement!

........

 

[Mosamania]

On the contrary I asked him why when I love Arabs Turks Iranians equally does he and his ilk abuse me when I am only critical of your leaders. the same way that I love Pakistan but I hate our corrupt American allied leadership.

Playing the victim are we now?? You have no Love for Arabs. You insult us on a daily basis hell you even mocked our scientists by associating them with someone who has nothing to do with science. Is that not mocking??

Even if someone would look the wrong way to the Iranian flag you would start a fit yet you go around here throwing insults left and right at us.

I haven't insulted anyone yet you insult me and you know that you are.

 

[lem34]

Hizzboullah carried out terrorist bombings in Saudi Arabia. So we are justified to be extremely against it.

You have no evidence of this. Are you sure it was not because they defeated Israel. We know America hates Hezbollah?

 

[Mosamania]

You have absolutely no shame. Stop hiding your hatred, you thank every racist Arab bashing post in the forum. You just hide behind Al-Saud to justify your bigotry, fortunately our government is realizing there is no use for Pakistan and allaying it self with India the the super power.

Go to a hole somehwere it is nothing like that. Pakistanis here do not represent the Pakistani people. You shouldn't take what they say seriously.

 

[lem34]

What!! I thought you were happy about Iran's achievement!

this is the kind of duplicity and rubbish that I have come to expect from you GCC lot. You came to ask our govt to allow shamsi airbase to Americans and we told you where to go mate. bt do you work with Mossa in London I better check with Iranzamin