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if its really that easy then why arent more countries doing it,hell why arent all countries doing it?

lol I do not know what you smoked of sniffed dude :)

do you think that one man can build a gps guided missle of several tens of kms ? in australia one guy did several years ago.. now you come make some good painting on it and claim burkina faso build a super cruise missle..

keep dreaming and sniffing :)

meanwhile more and more turkish products will enter the scene
 
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Rate of improvement in Iranian defense industry is amazing. In next 10 years Iranian AF and IRGC aerospace force will be equipped with Jet powered, low RCS UCAV in large numbers. Iranian fleet itself is very functional and large right now. Those along with a powerful and reliable BM, CM program will be the attack options for Iran.
 
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Whats funny? If compare Hermes and Shahed landing u will clearly see that Shahed is RC toy compare to Hermes.


Silly excuse. Since when u obey UN resolutions? I keep arming even illegal entities like Hezbollah. You just payed billion $ to Russia for S-300. U could trade it for your mighty Shahed.
Dont you think this really is getting more than a little bit tiring,not to mention ridiculous. :hitwall:

Now as for the video that you posted of the supposed difference between the landing of the shahed 129 and the hermes,well for a start the footage of the shahed 129 landing is recorded in slow motion which has the habit of magnifying small events as it makes them seem to last longer and as such you can perceive them in greater detail.Now interestingly when I downloaded the video and played the normal speed sequence of the hermes landing back at half speed ie slow motion,I saw much the same thing as in the shahed sequence ie the drone bouncing slightly on landing,tho at normal speed its almost not perceptible.:rolleyes:
If this was your idea of a "clever" little trick,ie mixing slo-mo and normal speed footage,well it wasnt very clever I`m afraid.:tsk:

The s300 deal was signed and paid for long before the shahed 129 ever flew,all the waaay back in 2007 actually.Also even if iran had decided to ignore what it rightly no doubt saw as nothing more than purely politically motivated un security council resolutions against it,that still doesnt mean that russia would be in any position to buy iranian drones like the shahed even if,BIG IF,iran was actually willing to sell it to them.You see russia was one of the unsc members who voted for the resolutions against iran,now imagine how it would look if after voting russia then turned around and violated one of the same resolutions that it had just voted for,not to mention that the russians at around that time were so willing to perform anilingus/analingus on the west that they even prohibited the delivery of the s300 to iran,tho ultimately that turned out to be rather a very dumb move on their part as they had already signed the contract and the s300 was NOT prohibited under the unsc resolutions,this ultimately ended up costing them a LOT at arbitration[$4,000,000,000][LOL!].So we can clearly see that under those circumstances the chances of iran being willing to sell and russia being able to buy were just not happening to put it mildly.Even today iran is still under an arms embargo and will remain so for a couple more years at least.
Ironically russia despite having drone programs of its own and having produced quite sophisticated drones for the time back during the soviet era still seems to be very reliant on foreign drones [israel] and has only just displayed an indigenous design in the male class,the orion-e,which still appears to be only in the development stage at the moment.
As for un resolutions did you know israel has violated 28 unsc resolutions,this number does not of course include the non binding resolutions passed by the un general assembly,if we were to include these the number would of course be much,much higher.:nono:
https://www.foreignpolicyjournal.co...olations-of-u-n-security-council-resolutions/
As for hezbollah being a "illegal entity",do the lebanese voters know about that?:azn:

lol I do not know what you smoked of sniffed dude :)

do you think that one man can build a gps guided missle of several tens of kms ? in australia one guy did several years ago.. now you come make some good painting on it and claim burkina faso build a super cruise missle..

keep dreaming and sniffing :)

meanwhile more and more turkish products will enter the scene
"meanwhile more and more turkish products will enter the scene",yes no doubt with a great deal of western help AND licensed technology as well.:yes4:
Oh,by the way....just out of curiosity,how exactly ARE you going to get turksat6 into orbit if turkey has no indigenous launch capability..hmm?o_O
I dont take drugs,but thanks for asking:-).....altho..if you happen to have any turkish hash laying about:p:....I seem to recall that being one of turkeys big exports back in the day..[ever see Midnight Express?]:laugh:
 
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A lot of people are butthurt in this thread.
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ARE you going to get turksat6 into orbit if turkey has no indigenous launch capability..hmm?

lol there is no need for indegionus capability yet.. for what waste so much money and force it just for the sake of indegionus capabilities.. better we first get some other capabilities we need more local engines wheeled and winged vehicles that is much more needed than that... chest thumbing ppl need brain, but some ppl just for the pride are doing things that have no big benefit

we can buy it from chinese for excample..

yes western help is that what hurts your butt ? with licenced products and other shortcuts we are now able to make it on our own.. you can even go out and invent everything new from screws to wheels or you use previous knowledge.. there is a difference in building something home and getting knowledge than just buying something some people have little or no brains then tell me why is iran sending students abroad? if they are such high tech in your eyes? why do they copy paste?


my friend please answer after a proper dose of drugs..
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Dont you think this really is getting more than a little bit tiring,not to mention ridiculous. :hitwall:

Now as for the video that you posted of the supposed difference between the landing of the shahed 129 and the hermes,well for a start the footage of the shahed 129 landing is recorded in slow motion which has the habit of magnifying small events as it makes them seem to last longer and as such you can perceive them in greater detail.Now interestingly when I downloaded the video and played the normal speed sequence of the hermes landing back at half speed ie slow motion,I saw much the same thing as in the shahed sequence ie the drone bouncing slightly on landing,tho at normal speed its almost not perceptible.:rolleyes:
If this was your idea of a "clever" little trick,ie mixing slo-mo and normal speed footage,well it wasnt very clever I`m afraid.:tsk:

The s300 deal was signed and paid for long before the shahed 129 ever flew,all the waaay back in 2007 actually.Also even if iran had decided to ignore what it rightly no doubt saw as nothing more than purely politically motivated un security council resolutions against it,that still doesnt mean that russia would be in any position to buy iranian drones like the shahed even if,BIG IF,iran was actually willing to sell it to them.You see russia was one of the unsc members who voted for the resolutions against iran,now imagine how it would look if after voting russia then turned around and violated one of the same resolutions that it had just voted for,not to mention that the russians at around that time were so willing to perform anilingus/analingus on the west that they even prohibited the delivery of the s300 to iran,tho ultimately that turned out to be rather a very dumb move on their part as they had already signed the contract and the s300 was NOT prohibited under the unsc resolutions,this ultimately ended up costing them a LOT at arbitration[$4,000,000,000][LOL!].So we can clearly see that under those circumstances the chances of iran being willing to sell and russia being able to buy were just not happening to put it mildly.Even today iran is still under an arms embargo and will remain so for a couple more years at least.
Ironically russia despite having drone programs of its own and having produced quite sophisticated drones for the time back during the soviet era still seems to be very reliant on foreign drones [israel] and has only just displayed an indigenous design in the male class,the orion-e,which still appears to be only in the development stage at the moment.
As for un resolutions did you know israel has violated 28 unsc resolutions,this number does not of course include the non binding resolutions passed by the un general assembly,if we were to include these the number would of course be much,much higher.:nono:
https://www.foreignpolicyjournal.co...olations-of-u-n-security-council-resolutions/
As for hezbollah being a "illegal entity",do the lebanese voters know about that?:azn:


"meanwhile more and more turkish products will enter the scene",yes no doubt with a great deal of western help AND licensed technology as well.:yes4:
Oh,by the way....just out of curiosity,how exactly ARE you going to get turksat6 into orbit if turkey has no indigenous launch capability..hmm?o_O
I dont take drugs,but thanks for asking:-).....altho..if you happen to have any turkish hash laying about:p:....I seem to recall that being one of turkeys big exports back in the day..[ever see Midnight Express?]:laugh:
Bla bla. The best Russian UAV currently is Israeli Searcher, which is old and not in MALE class.

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Russians are desperate to get MALE UAV for years. They wanted to buy Heron from Israel but Israel refused. So if Iran had them they would buy it without any doubt. Your silly excuses that Russia and Iran who bomb and starve millions of Syrians, arm Hezbollah and so on care about UN resolutions are funny. Especially since UAV can be easily sold as civilian aircraft and u wont be able to prove its not. More over, Russia never showed any interest in magic Iranian UAVs.
 
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lol there is no need for indegionus capability yet.. for what waste so much money and force it just for the sake of indegionus capabilities.. better we first get some other capabilities we need more local engines wheeled and winged vehicles that is much more needed than that... chest thumbing ppl need brain, but some ppl just for the pride are doing things that have no big benefit

we can buy it from chinese for excample..

yes western help is that what hurts your butt ? with licenced products and other shortcuts we are now able to make it on our own.. you can even go out and invent everything new from screws to wheels or you use previous knowledge.. there is a difference in building something home and getting knowledge than just buying something some people have little or no brains then tell me why is iran sending students abroad? if they are such high tech in your eyes? why do they copy paste?


my friend please answer after a proper dose of drugs..
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OooKaay!!.....we ARE finally making some progress!,you`ve gone from claiming turkey made everything all by itself to..."Well actually we had help from the west"...,which as I recall was basically what I`d been saying right from the get go in fact.
I personally dont particularly care at all if turkey licenses western technology,however the point I was making,and which sadly seemed to elude you[and others] in your jingoistic stronkian outrage,was that iran simply doesnt have those options and that any iranian achievement was very likely commensurately more difficult and required more effort than its turkish equivalent,such as drones for instance.
As for indigenous capabilities,well I for one wouldnt be quite so quick to denigrate them as being done for nothing more than "pride" if I was you,after all what goods a satellite if one day you suddenly find that for various economic or political reasons no ones willing to launch it for you for love nor money,and thats just one example but its also equally true for a hell of a lot of other things as well,and dont go making the mistake of thinking that that could never ever happen to turkey...especially with the sorts of stupid games erdos been playing recently.
Lastly I wouldnt be to quick to rely on the chinese....or the russians for that matter either...
Oh,heres an old vid of one of erdos political speeches that I found,one can certainly see the power of populism in turkey today,just look at the way the crowd responds to him;)
 
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ou`ve gone from claiming turkey made everything all by itself to

lol maybe you are mistaken me for someone else.. I am the one who doesnt claim turks did everything by themselves I am the one who does not give a fu.. if we achive it by ourselves or by licence or with help of others as long as we get the abilities and the knowledge.. I am also the one who stated out that iran is smuggeling commercial stuff to use it for its projects..

so who cares if our technology bases on UK tech eg in sattelites who cares if the motor was a german one and now we have our own now and who cares if we use ukrainian tech as long as we get the abilities.. yesterday we got tech from UK today we design it by ourselfes :)

so some gavur can do what they like and brabble some useless dreams they have.. meanwhile we learn more and more and new products will enter the scene even if it hurts others.. for them our sucess tastes bitter :)

as I stated out iran could have a better base than we have but the mullahs are here the real problem
 
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Bla bla. The best Russian UAV currently is Israeli Searcher, which is old and not in MALE class.

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Russians are desperate to get MALE UAV for years. They wanted to buy Heron from Israel but Israel refused. So if Iran had them they would buy it without any doubt. Your silly excuses that Russia and Iran who bomb and starve millions of Syrians, arm Hezbollah and so on care about UN resolutions are funny. Especially since UAV can be easily sold as civilian aircraft and u wont be able to prove its not. More over, Russia never showed any interest in magic Iranian UAVs.

Iran isn't allowed military hardware export until 2020 due to UN nuclear deal.

Searcher II is pretty old 1998 stuff. It's got FLIR which is nice. Russia replacing Searcher II with Orion which is like Reaper and carries up to 4 missiles.

 
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Bla bla. The best Russian UAV currently is Israeli Searcher, which is old and not in MALE class.

FORPOST_161231_01.jpg


Russians are desperate to get MALE UAV for years. They wanted to buy Heron from Israel but Israel refused. So if Iran had them they would buy it without any doubt. Your silly excuses that Russia and Iran who bomb and starve millions of Syrians, arm Hezbollah and so on care about UN resolutions are funny. Especially since UAV can be easily sold as civilian aircraft and u wont be able to prove its not. More over, Russia never showed any interest in magic Iranian UAVs.
You do like to repeat yourself a lot dont you?
In order for a sale to take place it requires both a BUYER and a SELLER and without either of those there is no sale.What makes you think iran would`ve been willing to supply russia with some of irans most advanced drone tech when russia was voting against iran at the un and failing to deliver weapons that had been bought and paid for and which it was obligated to supply,in short russia was quite willing to fvck iran over just for nothing more than some measly short term political,or other, gain from its bestest bud the west[oh,how times have changed,lol],so why on earth would iran sell these things to such an unreliable country who could then turn around and supply all the data on them to irans enemies....hmm?.
As for violating unsc resolutions,well doing that usually comes with consequences,usually political and often economic as well and neither are to be underestimated.So if you are going to violate them you better make damn sure its for something of great political and/or economic value.....do you think a drone system would count as either?
Oh..I saw these and thought of you.
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Iran isn't allowed military hardware export until 2020 due to UN nuclear deal.

Searcher II is pretty old 1998 stuff. It's got FLIR which is nice. Russia replacing Searcher II with Orion which is like Reaper and carries up to 4 missiles.

So far all Russian UAVs miserably failed in trials. The best Russian UAV today is still Israeli Searcher.

Russia was interested to buy Israeli Heron. Russia never showed any interest in magic Iranian UAVs. Because Russia knows very well that its nothing but silly fake. Just like their Qaher 313.

You do like to repeat yourself a lot dont you?
In order for a sale to take place it requires both a BUYER and a SELLER and without either of those there is no sale.What makes you think iran would`ve been willing to supply russia with some of irans most advanced drone tech when russia was voting against iran at the un and failing to deliver weapons that had been bought and paid for and which it was obligated to supply,in short russia was quite willing to fvck iran over just for nothing more than some measly short term political,or other, gain from its bestest bud the west[oh,how times have changed,lol],so why on earth would iran sell these things to such an unreliable country who could then turn around and supply all the data on them to irans enemies....hmm?.
As for violating unsc resolutions,well doing that usually comes with consequences,usually political and often economic as well and neither are to be underestimated.So if you are going to violate them you better make damn sure its for something of great political and/or economic value.....do you think a drone system would count as either?
Oh..I saw these and thought of you.
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No dude. Tin foil is needed for people who believe Khamenai propaganda. Like Qaher 313 is real LOL.
 
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So far all Russian UAVs miserably failed in trials. The best Russian UAV today is still Israeli Searcher.

Russia was interested to buy Israeli Heron. Russia never showed any interest in magic Iranian UAVs. Because Russia knows very well that its nothing but silly fake. Just like their Qaher 313.


No dude. Tin foil is needed for people who believe Khamenai propaganda. Like Qaher 313 is real LOL.
I believe the reason Russia doesn't buy Iranian drones is probably because the Iranian drones dont have great or superior targeting technology. Issue isn't size or range or payload etc.
 
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Guys I want to estimate the fleet numbers of Iranian UCAV's.

This is the apparent available models list given below. This modernization is almost unreal considering that almost 12 years ago Karrar target drone was big news for Iranian defence followers. See how far we have come. Imagine what will be flying in Iranian skies in next 10 years. I am literally seeing IRGC-AF and probably IRIAF operating squadrons of jet powered low RC unmanned bombers supported by 15-18 squadrons of Local 4+ generation interceptors (improved kowsar like FCK-1 or F-20 equivalent) + Su-35S or Su-30SM+ F-14AM. Iranian planners are clever.

Shahed 129 MALE UCAV (Operational)
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Fotros MALE UCAV (not produced ?)
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Hamaseh UCAV
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Saeghe Low RC Jet powered UCAV (Operational)
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Simorgh UCAV (Operational)
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Mohajer 6 (Operational)

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Karrar (Operational)

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