Iran is preparing time bomb for Pakistan

[Kamikaze Pilot]

india is the biggest recruiting ground for both shia mercenaries and sunni mercenaries.

Do you get amusement by posting factually incorrect statements?

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

As per rough estimates, almost 15 to 20 thousand young Pakistan boys were recruited and sent to Syria.
These boys were mostly recruited from Kuram, Parachanar, Meeranshah, Bannu areas of Pakistan.
Zubaidioon, an Irani terrorist outfit did that, mostly.
In recent targeting of Mufti Taqi Usmani, the guys who were involved, were the ones who returned from Syria.
These guys were supported by Sipah e Muhammad of Pakistan, a terrorist outfit, mainly backed by Iran for sectarian killing in Pakistan. These guys were also getting support from Khana Ferhang Irani in Karachi, and from the local news reporters, who, though Pakistanis, also served in Syria as interpreters. These terrorists also had support from police elements from NIPA thana.
Now here are some points:

1) some of the terrorists returned home from Syria, and they tried to target top mufti and aalim of Pakistan. What will happen when they all will return?

2) Have Shias of Pakistan already decided that which country is more important, Iran or Pakistan?

3) Now when all game is exposed, will Iran remains a friendly country, or we are ready to break Shestan from Iran? (Qissa hi pak hojaey, na rahygi port, na bajaygi bansri).

4) Irani penetration in Pakistani establishment, and the way, some elements in Pakistani establishments prefare Iran over Pakistan, is indeed alarming.

5) most important: when Iran was doing that, reports were coming, what were Pakistani law enforcement agencies were doing?

Well, here, I want to categorically warn Iran, that you guys have annoyed us to our limits. We know how you manipulate things between us and India. Enough is enough.

@Irfan Baloch @MastanKhan @Imran Khan

We have to walk very carefully here brother as this is a very touchy subject.

I agree with you main point that the actions of Iran is stealing and indoctrinating our youth to fight sectarian wars in Syria and Iraq is troubling.

We should directly confront the Iranian state about it, find out those who went to join the sectarian militias, and give them a fair punishment.

We need to be very careful as we walk the path of truth and justice from labeling all Shias of Pakistan as traitors or agents of Iran. This is simply not the case.

Most of those who harbored ill-will against Pakistan have already left the country into the Pakistani diaspora.

Forget about expansionism into Iran, this should never be our goal. We are not an ethnic-supremacist state. We don’t issue threats to steal territory of our neighbors.

Pakistani government inaction all around is the major problem here. We have ignored Iran’s subversive activities in pakistan for far too long.

Our pseudo-liberal Pakistanis harp on and on about Wahhabi money (which is vastly exaggerated and has been mostly dealt with) while completely ignoring the real issue of Iranian proxy control of Shia institutions and organizations in Pakistan.

The very favorable trend I saw these last few months after Gen soleimani’s insulting remarks and threats against Pakistan was the support of Shia Pakistanis for our country.

Shias are a part and parcel of this country, our Muslim brothers and sisters whose lives are sacred to us.

Pakistani state should do their job of cutting foreign money from all venues into religious institutions and take a tougher stand on Pakistanis who go to ME to fight in sectarian wars.

 

[Peaceful Civilian]

This is happening from centuries. Muslim killing each other.

 

[Zhukov]

this involve more fiction than reality............ what is shia sunni myth???? when Hulagu Khan attacked Iraq and killed one and a half million iraqi people, do you know what they were doing???? they were so busy to prove each other wrong in a useless sunni shia conflicts that they ignored the real threat and finally the wrath of Allah took them in shape of Hulagu khan... The Mongols swept into the city and began a week of massacre, looting, rape, and destruction. that is why islam said

"And hold fast by the rope (covenant) of Allah all together and be not
disunited"....
Quraan: Sura Aal-e-Imran, Ch 3 Ayat 103

Bhai kis thread mei time waste kar rahey ho apna. Everyone will agree to you, Yet no one will understand what you are saying and no one will change his opinion. At the end of the discussion you will be either an Irani Farsi Agent or a Saudi Wahabi Agent

 

[KhalaiMakhlooq]

and Imran Khan also is one

Imran Khan is a liberal.
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/paki...-foreign-fascists.612071/page-5#post-11347263

 

[fitpOsitive]

We have to walk very carefully here brother as this is a very touchy subject.

I agree with you main point that the actions of Iran is stealing and indoctrinating our youth to fight sectarian wars in Syria and Iraq is troubling.

We should directly confront the Iranian state about it, find out those who went to join the sectarian militias, and give them a fair punishment.

We need to be very careful as we walk the path of truth and justice from labeling all Shias of Pakistan as traitors or agents of Iran. This is simply not the case.

Most of those who harbored ill-will against Pakistan have already left the country into the Pakistani diaspora.

Forget about expansionism into Iran, this should never be our goal. We are not an ethnic-supremacist state. We don’t issue threats to steal territory of our neighbors.

Pakistani government inaction all around is the major problem here. We have ignored Iran’s subversive activities in pakistan for far too long.

Our pseudo-liberal Pakistanis harp on and on about Wahhabi money (which is vastly exaggerated and has been mostly dealt with) while completely ignoring the real issue of Iranian proxy control of Shia institutions and organizations in Pakistan.

The very favorable trend I saw these last few months after Gen soleimani’s insulting remarks and threats against Pakistan was the support of Shia Pakistanis for our country.

Shias are a part and parcel of this country, our Muslim brothers and sisters whose lives are sacred to us.

Pakistani state should do their job of cutting foreign money from all venues into religious institutions and take a tougher stand on Pakistanis who go to ME to fight in sectarian wars.

I always thought why this Zainabion is inducting civilians from other countries but not Iran it's self. Now I got the answer. The sole purpose these zombies will be to kill ulama here, and try to convert this country as well. This will happen, if we don't act now. I think each one of these fighters should be sent to exile.

No source? Personal opinion.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liwa_Zainebiyoun
https://nedaa-sy.com/en/news/3170
https://ummat.net/2019/04/05/news.php?p=story1.gif

Lo perhlo, thandy hojao tum bhi. Or links chahiay hon tu btana.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Imran Khan is a liberal.
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/paki...-foreign-fascists.612071/page-5#post-11347263

He is a religious nationalist.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1073822742363992064

Bhai kis thread mei time waste kar rahey ho apna. Everyone will agree to you, Yet no one will understand what you are saying and no one will change his opinion. At the end of the discussion you will be either an Irani Farsi Agent or a Saudi Wahabi Agent

Fir vi zaroorat he.

Even if you are the sole man standing facing lies and slander, it is our duty to stand up. It is the Sunnah of Imam Hussain RA.

I am an Deobandi Sunni Hanafi Muslim, and I will never let my country fall into sectarian bloodshed. I hope we recognize the dangers of this.

This is because to me Islam and my country is more valuable to me than my sect. Until we kill the scourge of sectarianism in our midst, we will always be at each other’s throats.

 

[Umair Nawaz]

One thing is for sure this Mufti Taqi assassination attempt, Kulbhushan Yadav, Ozair Baloch point fingers towards Iran.....And for how long Pakistan can tolerate this is upto us. These Imam Bargahs need to be closed off just as Iran dont allow different Mosques besides state religion/sect.

If anybody wants to pray, just go to the regular Mosque or shutup.

 

[fitpOsitive]

Let me tell you something about Shia population . In Pakistan if there is one shia house then next to it 20 sunni houses. And these massive mobilization never stay as secret . I live in neighborhood where all Sunni people live around, they know me and my family extremely well. And it same for every family, If I take your facts , then it should have come to family or general or mohallah gossip . In every shia family or sunni family they have close family ties... So, I don't know from where you bring these high number and from which area people in thousands went to Syria or somewhere ... I would advice , if you ever get a chance travel outside Pakistan and travel few countreis, so you understand the public gossip and propaganda ....

You probably live in Karachi or may be lahore. Actually I mentioned the area, specifically. And BTW, if you live in Karachi than you might be knowing the way these Iranis use their Khana Ferhang to expend their influences in Pakistani society, and in a negative way. For Pakistani Shias, Iran is sacred, and this thing will harm you guys. Iran is using you guys. Specially, when Iran conducts attacks on you, and then comes as a saviour to give you guys a hand. Beware, Pakistan is such a beautiful combination of Shia Sunni harmony, and Iran is here to break this social fabric.

 

[Sabretooth]

Enough of this "they were only in Syria to protect holy shrines" propaganda.
Each and every one of these volunteers and their supporters must be booked under the national action plan and arrested on arrival. It's time Govt of Pakistan give up the duality when it comes to crack down against the domestic militant outfits and stop singling out Sunnis.

 

[TMA]

But question still remains why a religious fundamentalist regime in Iran is acceptable to western powers since 1979 but such religious fundamentalist regime in Afghanistan was not acceptable to these western powers. For the last two decades I have been searching for an answer to this question but so far haven't found one.

@BATMAN do you have any answer to this question , you seem to have a good grip on Iran related topics.

You might want to listen to the old lectures of Sheikh Imran Hosein. He mentions this as well. He notes that when Ayatollah Khomenei was in exile, in which country was he staying in? France of all places.

Personally my opinion is that the Gog and Magog Zionist World Order want a civil war in the House of Islam. They had created the Najdi- Saudi State and supported it to become pre-eminent in 'Sunni' Islam...they did this many decades ago....they also wanted a similar thing in 'Shia' Islam, which they got with revolution of 1979 and now they are wanting a more of a 'clash' between them... which happened in Iraq and maybe in Syria. They are hoping for this to happen in Pakistan.....

Many prominently members of the Pakistan movement were Deobandis and Imran Khan also is one. I can’t speak for Dar ul Uloom in India, but most of us here have been fervent supporters of the Pakistani state.

It was Deobandis of Pakistan who gave Islamic legitimacy to the Pakistani state, and people like Maulana Maududi, Dr. Israr Ahmad, Tariq Jameel, Junaid Jamshed, Shabbir Ahmad Usmani, Muftis Taqi and Rafi Usmani who have always been at the forefront of our nation.

As far as Taliban, it is Afghans decision how they choose their leaders and not our concern.

Unfortunately many people conflate Wahhabism and Deobandis, nothing can be further from the truth. Deobandis believe in Sufism and are a natural continuation of the Islamic activities of people such as Ahmad Sirhindi.

Maudadi - no! He was against Pakistan. Still a great scholar but if I was Home Minister back them I would have refused him entry on this basis.

One of my subordinate's elder brother (Bhakkar city, Punjab) was in zainabyun, died in syria. Now their whole family ran to Iran(quom).

As in legally emigrate or just voluntary exile?
Were the local authorities aware of this? Just curious.

 

[Max]

First of all Death to Mullah terrorist regime..

Indeed Iranian terrorists are threat to our security, we shouldnt let any of those terrorists back in Pakistan, we should openly confront terrorist entity in west about recruiting Pakistanis for terrorism against Arabs..

 

[TMA]

First of all Death to Mullah terrorist regime..

Indeed Iranian terrorists are threat to our security, we shouldnt let any of those terrorists back in Pakistan, we should openly confront terrorist entity in west about recruiting Pakistanis for terrorism against Arabs..

ALL terrorists who are against Pakistan are a threat. Be they ISIS, Afghan, Iranian Saudi etc etc...

 

[El Sidd]

That is the problem, we have mindset those who think, all shia belong to Iran. What Pakistani shia has to do with Iran. Recently , my family friend house was attacked and they lost 3 people at the gate and injured two in N-bad Karachi , still police unable to find the killers. Famlies knows the killers but scared.....they don't tell the name.... well there are hundreds of stories .... but that is sad to see such a massive generalization... anyway majority of us moved out of Pakistan for such reasons .

i am not denying the cost of war on terror which Pakistanis have paid massively for.

the only thing i am saying that its not religious infighting but foreign imposed war tactic.

aap insaf karen hamare sath

I am an Deobandi Sunni Hanafi

just saying muslim is too hard for you?

 

[Lucky Breeze]

As in legally emigrate or just voluntary exile?
Were the local authorities aware of this? Just curious.

Voluntary exile. And about local authorities, I don't know.