Iran in Crisis

[AmirPatriot]

Look at the tags that this clown has made for this thread :

Safavism
Daesh
Khamenei

I hadn't noticed those

 

[Śakra]

The article forgot the biggest point:

iran created ISIS now ISIS will come home to roost.

 

[Shapur Zol Aktaf]

The article forgot the biggest point:

iran created ISIS now ISIS will come home to roost.

Iran is 90% shia. Shia is a kind of vaccine against sunni/arab terrorism. Buyids, Safavids (Dr. Shah Ismail gave us this vaccine and antidote). We were sick for 500 years, waiting for the antidote and vaccin.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ismail_I

 

[Sargon of Akkad]

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Iran is 90% shia. Shia is a kind of vaccine against sunni/arab terrorism. Buyids, Safavids (Dr. Shah Ismail gave us this vaccine and antidote). We were sick for 500 years, waiting for the antidote and vaccin.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ismail_I

The biggest vaccine against Iranians themselves as this maniac, who makes Al-Baghdadi look like a schoolboy, committed dozens upon dozens of massacres against nobody else but Iranians. Other than that this Turk/Kurd/Arab/Georgian fought against Ottomans and they slaughtered each other mutually.

So you are basically hailing a maniac whose largest victims (95%) were Iranians themselves.

In fact this maniac imported 1000's of Shia Arabs from Lebanon, Southern Iraq and Eastern Arabia, creating a unique religious elite that will dominate the religious scene of Iran for a long time to come.

Arab Shia Ulema

After the conquest, Ismail began transforming the religious landscape of Iran by imposing Twelver Shiism on the populace. Since most of the population embraced Sunni Islam and since an educated version of Shiism was scarce in Iran at the time, Ismail imported a new Shia Ulema corps from traditional Shiite centers of the Arabic speaking lands, largely from Jabal Amil (of Southern Lebanon), Mount Lebanon, and Syria, while to a much lesser extent from Bahrain and Southern Iraq in order to create a state clergy.[37][38][39][40] Ismail offered them land and money in return for loyalty. These scholars taught the doctrine of Twelver Shiism and made it accessible to the population and energetically encouraged conversion to Shiism.[34][41][42][43] To emphasize how scarce Twelver Shiism was then to be found in Iran, a chronicler tells us that only one Shia text could be found in Ismail’s capital Tabriz.[44] Thus it is questionable whether Ismail and his followers could have succeeded in forcing a whole people to adopt a new faith without the support of the Arab Shiite scholars.[36] The rulers of Safavid Persia also invited these foreign Shiite religious scholars to their court in order to provide legitimacy for their own rule over Persia.[45]

Abbas I of Persia, during his reign, also imported more Arab Shia Ulema to Iran, built religious institutions for them, including many Madrasahs (religious schools) and successfully persuaded them to participate in the government, which they had shunned in the past (following the Hidden imam doctrine).[46]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safavid_conversion_of_Iran_to_Shia_Islam#Arab_Shia_Ulema

 

[Attila the Hun]

Iran have no crisis...They have no PKK terrorists blowing up their cities, nor ISIS in their country shooting people at nightclubs.

 

[Shapur Zol Aktaf]

The biggest vaccine against Iranians themselves as this maniac, who makes Al-Baghdadi look like a schoolboy, committed dozens upon dozens of massacres against nobody else but Iranians. Other than that this Turk/Kurd/Arab/Georgian fought against Ottomans and they slaughtered each other mutually.

So you are basically hailing a maniac whose largest victims (95%) were Iranians themselves.

In fact this maniac imported 1000's of Shia Arabs from Lebanon, Southern Iraq and Eastern Arabia, creating a unique religious elite that will dominate the religious scene of Iran for a long time to come.

arab shia ulama.

He did great, now we need a new Dr. Shah Ismail to unite at least the Shia groups, to make the neighbouring countries free of ISIS and Isis lovers and to act harsh. I'm not in love with the ulama. but as long as it serves Iranian interests I'll support it. You know that many Iranians have a nationalist soul (somethimes beside shia soul, somethimes without shia soul) and not all of us are ulama lovers, we've better things to do in Iran .

 

[Sargon of Akkad]

He did great, now we need a new Dr. Shah Ismail to unite at least the Shia groups, to make the neighbouring countries free of ISIS and Isis lovers and to act harsh. I'm not in love with the ulama. but as long as it serves Iranian interests I'll support it. You know that many Iranians have a nationalist soul (somethimes beside shia soul, somethimes without shia soul) and not all of us are ulama lovers.

You are in no position to cry about ISIS or their likes or terrorism for that matter when you and most Iranians hail an mass-murderer that makes Al-Baghdadi look like a schoolboy. Not only that a mass-murderer that mass-murdered Iranians and almost nobody else. Talk about a Stockholm syndrome of some kind!

In fact, had you remained Sunni Muslims, you would probably not have the identity crisis that many of you guys have. I suggest taking a look what the religion/sect of the most well-known Iranians during the Islamic ages (pre-Safavids) were. Hint, Sunnis. Also take a look at the relationship between Sunni Persians and Iranians and Arabs in the GCC and elsewhere historically. More than cordial to put it mildly. In fact so cordial that historians have coined the term Arab-Persian to describe a cultural symbiosis and intermarriages.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persian_Arab

Also Shia Twelverism, added to that the 37 year old Wilayat al-Faqih cult, almost makes it hell to be a practicing Muslim as everything about that sect is depression, crying, mourning, 1000's of anniversaries and constant focus on historical events and Mullahism. Not to say innovations. Certain personalities are mentioned more than God himself, monotheism and the good deeds that Islam and most other religions highlight. Traditional Sunni Islam are worlds apart. No wonder that Iranians, once among the pioneers, are now more worried about plastic operations and useless Turkish soap operas than spiritualism.

Not to forget turning clerics into Gods and paying them money. No wonder that Iran managed to be the first and only nation in history that is actually ruled by a bunch of clerics (Mullah's) who always were second stage in all Islamic dynasties anywhere in the world.

Add the communist mixture into the mixture (most Iranian Mullah's were pseudo-Communists - again something totally foreign for Arab Mullahs regardless of sect) and you have a potent mixture of misery.

 

[Shapur Zol Aktaf]

You are in no position to cry about ISIS or their likes or terrorism for that matter when you and most Iranians hail an mass-murderer that makes Al-Baghdadi look like a schoolboy. Not only that a mass-murderer that mass-murdered Iranians and almost nobody else. Talk about a Stockholm syndrome of some kind!

In fact, had you remained Sunni Muslims, you would probably not have the identity crisis that many of you guys have. I suggest taking a look what the religion/sect of the most well-known Iranians during the Islamic ages (pre-Safavids) were. Hint, Sunnis. Also take a look at the relationship between Sunni Persians and Iranians and Arabs in the GCC and elsewhere historically. More than cordial to put it mildly. In fact so cordial that historians have coined the term Arab-Persian to describe a cultural symbiosis and intermarriages.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persian_Arab

Also Shia Twelverism, added to that the 37 year old Wilayat al-Faqih cult, almost makes it hell to be a practicing Muslims as everything about that sect is depression, crying, mourning, 1000's of anniversaries and constant focus on historical events and Mullahism. Traditional Sunni Islam are worlds apart.

Look to Afghanistan, big part are sunni persians and Iranic people with sunni religion. Today you showed us that tajiks (persian speaking sunnis) are blowing themselves up in Syria and Iraq. No way that Iranian shia majority will do such things. They needed Dr. Shah Ismail also in the past, maybe their situation would be better now.

And about the mourning and anniversaries, it will reach a dead end in Iran, you know the youth and new generation is not that much interested in these shows (as past generations), but for now it gives us some sort of protection. The antidote is still effective. Later we change the substance and produce a more Iranian version of the vaccin.

 

[Sargon of Akkad]

Look to Afghanistan, big part are sunni persians and Iranic people with sunni religion. Today you showed us that tajiks (persian speaking sunnis) are blowing themselves up in Syria and Iraq. No way that Iranian shia majority will do such things. They needed Dr. Shah Ismail also in the past, maybe their situation would be better now.

And about the mourning and anniversaries, it will reach a dead end in Iran, you know the youth and new generation is not interested in these funny shows, but for now it gives us some sort of protection.

If I wanted to act like some Iranians do when they talk about Arabs and others, then Tajiks are Persianized people who are mostly native to their lands and who also have a lot of Turkish/Mongol admixture and moreover are genetically different from Iranians of Iran, lol. In fact Iranians cluster more with many Arab groups in the region than with Tajiks and those Iranic speakers to the East. However I will skip that part, lol.

Such individuals make up a tiny minority in the overall picture. There are 1.3 billion Sunnis or so of which 30.000 are engaged in militant Islamism in hotspots where the conflict is more about power and historical grievances than sect. This explains why former, somewhat anti-Muslim Arab nationalists (Baathists) could turn into ISIS overnight. This is due to the incredibly rivalry between Iraqi Sunni Arabs and Shia Arabs post 2003 and since the era of Saddam Hussein. In reality this is a power struggle and Islam is more useful as a weapon for Muslim masses than something exclusively Arab such as Arab nationalism. For instance they would not be able to attract dozens of those Tajiks, Turkic people from Central Asia, Caucasians and others if not for this.

Anyway it is evident that Sunni Islam was much better for Iran historically speaking. Can you name a single well-known Iranian scientist post Safavids? I cannot mention a single. And I am not talking about modern-day times.

As for Tajiks, I do not see an identity crisis among them (outside the Russified lot in Tajikistan proper) or hostility against Islam, or some of the complies/dilemmas that certain Iranians, mostly diaspora, deal with.

And let's not forget the greatest irony of it all. Anti-Muslims and anti-Arabs like you complain about "Arabs" such as Khamenai, Khomeini etc. but their ancestors were imported by the Safavids that you hail. Today their descendants can be counted in the millions. Alone on this forum many of your compatriots, I can at least count 5-6, have claimed or either claim to have a mother or father that is a Sayyid and ancestral tables showing this. One has written in this very thread (AmirPatriot). There must be something about this when so many people write about it online and in person, so even if we assume that 50% of them are false claims, the remaining 50% would still be a huge number.

Point in case is that Iran would be better of with traditional Sunni Islam. Look at the Shafi' majority Kurds. A good example. Also the Iranian diaspora in the GCC are almost exclusively Sunni, among them Persians. They do not have any identity crisis and do a lot to highlight that they are Iranians.

In fact most of the more genuine Persians in the sense that they originate from historical Fars region and Southern Iran (homeland of Persians), migrated exactly due to Safavid crimes and forceful conversions. So they sought refugee across the pond. This is all true. You can read about this yourself in both Arabic, English and Persian, however Mullah's are probably censoring such information inside Iran.

http://www.iraniansunnis.com

@SALMAN F you should once and for all openly declare that you are an Iranian (or at least a person that desperately wants to appear/be one) using Iraqi and Lebanese flags. You know that what I say is correct as it is all based on historical facts and that Shapur is contradicting himself in this discussion numerous times.

 

[SALMAN F]

If I wanted to act like some Iranians do when they talk about Arabs and others, then Tajiks are Persianized people who are mostly native to their lands and who also have a lot of Turkish/Mongol admixture and moreover are genetically different from Iranians of Iran, lol. In fact Iranians cluster more with many Arab groups in the region than with Tajiks and those Iranic speakers to the East. However I will skip that part, lol.

Such individuals make up a tiny minority in the overall picture. There are 1.3 billion Sunnis or so of which 30.000 are engaged in militant Islamism in hotspots where the conflict is more about power and historical grievances than sect. This explains why former, somewhat anti-Muslim Arab nationalists (Baathists) could turn into ISIS overnight. This is due to the incredibly rivalry between Iraqi Sunni Arabs and Shia Arabs post 2003 and since the era of Saddam Hussein. In reality this is a power struggle and Islam is more useful as a weapon for Muslim masses than something exclusively Arab such as Arab nationalism. For instance they would not be able to attract dozens of those Tajiks, Turkic people from Central Asia, Caucasians and others if not for this.

Anyway it is evident that Sunni Islam was much better for Iran historically speaking. Can you name a single well-known Iranian scientist post Safavids? I cannot mention a single. And I am not talking about modern-day times.

As for Tajiks, I do not see an identity crisis among them (outside the Russified lot in Tajikistan proper) or hostility against Islam, or some of the complies/dilemmas that certain Iranians, mostly diaspora, deal with.

And let's not forget the greatest irony of it all. Anti-Muslims and anti-Arabs like you complain about "Arabs" such as Khamenai, Khomeini etc. but their ancestors were imported by the Safavids that you hail. Today their descendants can be counted in the millions. Alone on this forum many of your compatriots, I can at least count 5-6, have claimed or either claim to have a mother or father that is a Sayyid and ancestral tables showing this. One has written in this very thread (AmirPatriot). There must be something about this when so many people write about it online and in person, so even if we assume that 50% of them are false claims, the remaining 50% would still be a huge number.

Point in case is that Iran would be better of with traditional Sunni Islam. Look at the Shafi' majority Kurds. A good example. Also the Iranian diaspora in the GCC are almost exclusively Sunni, among them Persians. They do not have any identity crisis and do a lot to highlight that they are Iranians.

In fact most of the more genuine Persians in the sense that they originate from historical Fars region and Southern Iran (homeland of Persians), migrated exactly due to Safavid crimes and forceful conversions. So they sought refugee across the pond. This is all true. You can read about this yourself in both Arabic, English and Persian, however Mullah's are probably censoring such information inside Iran.

http://www.iraniansunnis.com

It's irony you glorify the so called persian scientists which most of them were against islam and if they were alive today they would be slaughtered by the so called sunni muslims

Prophet Shah ismail peace be upon him save iran just how ataturk saved turkey and enver hoxha saved Albania its its ironic since all the three were of Balkan Anatolian ancestry and they came from alevi bektashi background

Khomeini and khamanie hate prophet shah ismail peace be upon him and they say the was alcoholic because he was an honest and he was sufi bektashi alevi kizilbash

 

[Sargon of Akkad]

It's irony you glorify the so called persian scientists which most of them were against islam and if they were alive today they would be slaughtered by the so called sunni muslims

Prophet Shah ismail peace be upon him save iran just how ataturk saved turkey and enver hoxha saved Albania its its ironic since all the three were of Balkan Anatolian ancestry and they came from alevi bektashi background

Khomeini and khamanie hate prophet shah ismail peace be upon him and they say the was alcoholic because he was an honest and he was sufi bektashi alevi kizilbash

I don't glorify anyone as there were more Arab scientists and both Iranians and Arab scientists worked together and very few of those scientists were anti-Muslim or anti-Islam but mostly ANTI-ESTABLISHMENT. Two very different things.

Yes, he saved Iran by mass-murdering Iranians, erasing Iranian history and making Iran irrelevant in the Muslim world and also in terms of innovation and scientists. Zero well-known Iranian scientists or personalities of a scale similar to previous, Sunni Persian, ones, post-Safavids. This is a fact.

This also contributed to some of the identity crisis that Iranians have and dilemmas they face which Tajiks for instance do not face. Let alone political isolation in the region which has come at a very high price.

Hate him? Well, they must thank him for being Iranians today and not Syrians, Lebanese, Iraqis, Saudi Arabians and Bahrainis, lol.

The ethnic Persian Sunnis of Iran
September 11, 2014

Ethnic Persian (yes, Persians, not Baloch or Kurds or other Iranic people) Sunnis of Iran:



1. Khorassani Persians – The Iranian province of Khorassan in east Iran is home to Khorassani-Persian Sunnis. Even Mashad (which is just next to Neishabur, where Imam Muslim is buried) has a Sunni minority. Some cities in Khorassan of Iran are even majority Sunni (like Birjand and Torbat-e Jam). Khorassani Persians are Hanafi Sunnis and culturally (and of course by language) no different to their fellow Persians in Isfahani, Tehrani, Shirazi etc.


2. Larestani Persians of south Iran who are Shafi’i-Sunnis. Larestan county is locatd in the Fars province (historically ALL of south Iran i.e. what is known today as the southern part of the Fars province and the whole coast line i.e. Hormozgan was known as Larestan). The people in this area refer to themselves as “Khodmooni” (خودموني) or Achomi (اچمی) the former stands for “of our own”/Khodmooni, which is to make themselves distinguished from both Shia Persians and the Arab Sunnis who also live in that area.

Khodmoonis are known of being very proud of their Iranian heritage, to such an extent that many Bastaki (another town in the Larestan area) people for instance emigrated to Dubai, Bahrain, Saudi (especially Khobar) and Kuwait (like many southern Persians did after refusing to pay taxes to Nasir al-Din, the last member of the Qajar dynasty and refusing to give up their Sunni faith when in the 16th history the Turkish Rafidi Safavids started an onslaught and massacre of everything that was Sunni, and even when the killing stopped, still high taxes pushed non-Shia Iranians to migrate) yet despite that, the majority never forgot their origin, in fact there are many Bastakis (and other Larestanis/Khodmunis of course) in Dubai, Bahrain, Kuwait, Qatar, Saudi Arabia and Oman, who have carried their unique Persian culture, language, and architecture with them. They have named their neighbourhood in Dubai, Bastakiyyah, after their town of Bastak in southern Persia, which is to this very day (despite the enmity of the Shia regime) majority Sunni. In fact many high officials in the Gulf, particularly in the UAE are of Persian origin and basically were a main factor for the development of the Gulf states (some of the biggest businessmen in the UAE are of Larestani-Persian origin).

3. Persian Sunnis of major Shia cities such as Tehran, Tabriz, Isfahan, Shiraz, Hamedan, Arak etc.

There are small Sunni communties in every Shia city of Iran, the Persians among them are either Sunnis by birth (or as it is the case with many, especially in cities such as Tehran and Isfahan) converts from Shi’ism to Islam/Sunnah.

https://sonsofsunnah.com/2014/09/11/the-ethnic-persian-sunnis-of-iran/

The Arabs of Iran – Sunnis or Shias?
October 22, 2014

A map about Arabs and Arabic speakers (including Iran):


Out dated Iranian gov. sources (and CIA sources) give a roughly estimate of 1-2 million (2-3% of the entire population). Some extremist Arab groups (particularly Ahwazis) represent the other side of the extreme, claiming there are 10 million Arabs in Iran. The truth seems to be somewhere in the middle (or close to it), for according to some independant sources there is an estimate of 3-5 million Arabs living inside Iran.


1. The Arabs of the coastal areas of Iran (Arab as-Sahel/ عرب الساحل)

The Arabs of the coastal regions of Iran (Bushehr and Hormozgan): are relatively small in number (a few hundred thousand) for the majority of the Sunnis (Shafi’is) of the south are the native (Lari/Achomi) Persian Sunnis. However, traditionally some coastal areas (since the arrival of Islam) of the south were inhabited by Arab tribes who without exception are (Shafi’i) Sunnis (unlike the Ahwazi Arabs who are majority Shia).

Many major tribes of the Arabian peninsula migreated (mostly after the arrival of Islam) to the southern Iranian shores, including Bani Tamim, Bani Hammad, al-Maraziq (Marzuqis), al-Qawasim (the rulers of UAE) etc. during some periods of history some of those tribes even had their own emirates in the coastal areas of Iran. Culturally there is almost zero difference between Iranian coastal Arabs and the Arabs in the Gulf countries. Men and women traditional dresses, accent and dialects, custom etc. are all similar to identical, in some southern Iranian towns one could think of himself to be in Bahrain or the Emirates instead of Iran. Gulf Arabic is spoken by southern Iranians Arabs (resembles Emirati Arabic the most) and many Persian Sunnis.

2. Ahwazi Arabs

Khuzestan was formerly known as ‘Arabistan’ (the land of Arabs), for obvious reasons ( most of it southern parts are populated by Arabs). Even the Safavids right up to the Qajar dynasty called this area ‘Arabistan’ (whereas in Arabic it’s known as ‘al-Ahwaz’). It was the Pahlavi dynasty, starting with Reza Pahlavi who changed the name of this region including many Arab cities into Persian ones. Interestingly the Iranian regime that claims Islam also followed the footsteps of the chauvinist Pahlavis, in fact the Iranian regime is even more aggressive in its ‘Persianisation’ politics than the previous regime. Arabistan was a semi-autonomous sheikhdom until 1925, when it was brought under central Iranian government control and later renamed, marking the start of a systematic campaign to Persianise if not obliterate the Arabs of Arabistan (them being Shias didnt help them a lot, for the deep grudge the Iranian Shia regime holds for Arabs is based on the Shia religion itself, hence the support to Palestinians and other Arabs groups are for the sake of propaganda and a certain agenda Iran follows, any Ahwazi Arab can tell a story how Iran would treat Arabs once they are fully under their control, see the killings in Syria were Iran aided an Alawite regime to kill thousands of Arabs).

The Arab (particularly Ahwazi) presence in Iran did not begin with the Islamic conquest of Persia in 633 AD. For centuries, Iranian rulers had maintained contacts with Arabs outside their borders, dealt with Arab subjects and client states in Iraq, and settled Arab tribesmen in various parts of the Iranian plateau. Extremist Persian nationalist groups claim that Ahwazi Arabs are recent immigrants, or at best Arab tribes who settled in Persia after the arrival of Islam. This is not true and contradicts historical accounts which state that Arab tribes have been settled in this very area (including Iraq) thousand of years BC. Arab Ahwazis are not ‘Persianised Arabs’ (except a very small minority), most Ahwazi Arabs trace their origin back to well known Arabic tribes, from the Bani Kaab, Ban Turuf to Bani Tamim. All Arab customs and traditions can be found among Ahwazi Arabs, from the dressing to traditional music.

Ahwazi Arabs (like the absolute majority of Iranian Arabs) are bilingual, speaking Arabic as their mother tongue, and Persian as a second language. The variety of Arabic spoken in the province is Khuzestani Arabic, which is a Mesopotamian dialect shared by Arabs across the border in Iraq and Kuwait. It can be easily understood by other Arabic-speakers. Apparently it resembles the Basrah (Basrawi) accent the most.

Most Ahwazi Arabs are Shias (like southern Iraqis), however, just like southern Iraq has a Sunni minority (in almost ever Shia city, like Basrah etc.), the Ahwazi Arabs too traditionally have a small Sunni minority. In addition to that, the recent mass-conversions from Shiism to Sunnism (even with fear acknowledged by the Iranian regime) have massily increased the number of Sunnis in this region, no other Shia regime of Iran has witnessed mass-conversions like in Khuzestan/Arabistan (although the new phenomenon of conversions from Shiism to Sunnism is known in all of Iran, particularly amongst Persian Shias).

3. Khorassani Arabs

A quite unknown groups. The Arabs in Khorasan are a group of Arabs who immigrated to Khorasan Province, Iran, during the Abbasid Caliphate (750−1513).

Most Khorasani Arabs belong to the tribes of Sheybani, Zangooyi, Mishmast, Khozaima, and Azdi, Khaz’al etc. Khorasan Arabs are Persian speakers, and only a few speak Arabic as their mother tongue. The cities of Birjand, Mashhad, and Nishapur are home to large groups of Khorasan Arabs. Amongst them are Sunnis and Shias.

4. Khamseh Arabs

Khamseh nomads live in eastern Fars Province. The Khamseh is a tribal confederation in the province of Fars in southwestern Iran. It consists of five tribes, hence its name Khamseh, “the five”. The tribes are still partly nomadic, and some are Arabic speaking. They are sheep breeders, which they herd mounted on camels.

The history of the Khamseh confederation of tribes starts in 1861–1862 when Shah Naser ed-Din created the Khamseh Tribal Confederation. He combined five existing nomadic tribes, the Arab, Nafar, Baharlu, Inalu, and the Basseri and placed them under the control of the Qavam ol-Molk family. The pattern of forcibly uniting tribes was not a new idea, as the Safavid Shahs previously created homogenous Kizilbash confederations to temper the increasing strength of the Qashqai, who were gaining so much power. The Khamseh tribes were a mixture of Turks, Luri, and Arabs, but they all came to be called Arabs in contrast to the Turkic Qashqai.

5. Persian (in some cases other Iranian ethnic group) families with Arab ancestry:

These group are not Arabs are neither by themselves nor others inside Iran considered as Arabs, neither linguistically, nor culturally nor traditionally, however as a matter of fact , many Arab tribes, particularly in pre-Safavid Persia have been settled in all major Persian cities, including Shiraz, Isfahan and Ray (Tehran). Therefore it is much likely that many Persian families are descendants of Arab tribes or at least mixed. In fact many Iranian (Persian, Azeri and other ethnic groups) families carry names of Arab tribes such as Banu ‘Amer (Ameris) etc.

Then there are the Shia (and Sunni) Sayyids ( Sadah – سادة) , both claiming ancestry to the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him). The authenticity of all those claims can certainly be disputed, for many claimants do not even carry a family tree, however, historically many of the Alawites have settled in Iran, from Mazandaran (Tabaristan in the north) to the Abbasids who ruled Persia and settled in Khorassan and later in the Fars province. It is hence not unlikely that some Persians are descendants of the Quraysh (or even the Prophet Muhammad directly), Sunnis and Shias alike (there are Sunni and Shia Sayyids inside Iran) for intermarriages between the Alawites, Abbasids and other Arab tribes and the Persians did occur.

https://sonsofsunnah.com/2014/10/22/the-arabs-of-iran-sunnis-or-shias/

The Jam’e (large Mosque) of Bastak (Persian Sunni town)
March 1, 2015

The Jame’ of Bastak. Note the striking similarity to Gulf Mosques, opposed to the common Iranian Shia mosques that are mostly based on Safavid architecture. Here some pictures:








Bastak is a majority Sunni town, inhabited by ethnic Persian Sunnis (also known as Achomis/Larestanis/Khodmonis, a very influencial minority in almost all Khalij countries, many politicans and even Sunni Shaykhs in the Khalij are of southern Persian origin). Ethnic Persians are a minority amongst Iranian Sunnis (most Iranian Sunnis are Kurds, Baloch and Turkmen), however contrary to the misconception that many hold about the Sunnis of Iran – i.e. that all Sunni Iranians are of non-Persian ethnicity (like Kurds and Baloch) and that virtually all ethnic Persians in Iran are Shiites – in fact many southern Persians (many who fled major Persian cities such as Isfahan and Shiraz after the onslaught of the Safavids) are Sunnis to this very day, in fact the Larestan province and the Hormozgan (that also has a Arab Sunni minority) province is a traditionally Sunni-Shafi’i stronghold and in Khorassan the Khorassanis are a notable minority too, most of them of Persian ethnic backround. More about ethnic Persian Sunnis:

https://sonsofsunnah.com/2014/09/11/the-ethnic-persian-sunnis-of-iran/


The (Shafi’i) Mufti of south Iran (Fars province)
October 9, 2014


– He Studied Shari’ah in the Madinah University
– He acquired his PhD degree in Sudan
– Compiled many books in the field of Fiqh and Usool Al-Fiqh
– Known as the ‘Shaykh Al-Shafi’iyyah’ (Shaykh of the Shafi’is) in Iran
– He is of course fluent in Arabic (not like the absolute majority of Shia ‘Ayatullats’ who can’t even recite a Fatiha correctly)
– He is known for his orthodox Sunni-Shafi’i Aqidah and was more than once prevented by the Iranian regime to participate at major Sunni gatherings in Iran (what the regime also often does is to confisnicate the passports of Sunni scholars in order to prevent them to do Hajj or ‘Umra and to connect with the wider Sunni world in public)
– He runs many Shafi’i schools inside Iran (all under heavy pressure)


NOTE: As we have explained in previous posts, the Sunnis of Iran (the largest religious minority in Iran, 10% acc. to regime sources, at least 20-30% acc. to Sunni Iranian sources) are not just made up by non-Persian ethnic groups (like Baloch, Kurds etc.), this is a misconception, for there are still many ethnic Persian Sunnis in Iran, particularly in the Iranian Khorassan province (Persian Hanafis) and in the southern provinces of Iran (Fars and Hormozgan province, majority of the Sunnis there are Persian Larestani Shafi’is). South Iran is actually still a Shafi’i-Sunni fortress with many Shafi’i schools (in Pre-Safavid Iran most Persians were Shafi’is followed by Hanafis).

When the Safavids under Ismail I decided to convert everyone residing in current day Iran from Sunni to Shiite Islam in 1501, they started arranged attacks and massacres against the Sunni Persians who refused to convert (Persian Sunnis from Ray-Tehrani, Shirazi, Isfahani and other major Persian Sunnis were either slaughtered or forced to become Shiites), as a result, many Sunni Persians left their hometowns for the Zagros Mountains. After the Battle of Chaldiran where the Safavids lost to the Ottoman the Sunni Persians descended from the mountains to begin a new life in the land they named “Bastak”, meaning barrier or backstop signifying barrier from Shiite Safavids’ attacks and influences. So the southern Persian (Shafi’is) are basically the remainders of the Persian (majority Shafi’i) Sunni population of Iran. They are a minority (Persian Sunnis) but still existing in Iran and in the southern parts they even make up the indigenous majority of the population.

https://sonsofsunnah.com/2014/10/09/the-shafii-mufti-of-south-iran-fars-province/

An Persian brother who saw the light being interview by an Egyptian brother. Both based in the UK.

This video contains no religious slurs, ethnic ones or anything that is against forum rules. It is a sane and cordial discussion.

Why is it relevant people might ask? Well, it is relevant because the "Islamic" "Republic" of Iran's key role in the Syrian bloodbath and their use of religion as an excuse for their regional projects.

Therefore it is refreshing to hear an Iranian who knows their system, rhetoric, tactics etc. touch upon such subjects and what made him embrace Sunni Islam.

The way he describes the "Islamic Republic", it's religious practices, those of the ordinary people, leadership, Iranian diaspora in the West etc. is really what most other sources also tell. For those who still live in ignorance watch the two videos in their entirety. Especially the dumb Arab minority that claims to be religious (Shia Muslims and Islamists) that blindly follows this fake "Islamic" "Republic" and their Mullah's.

This is important and relevant only because the same "Islamic" Republic uses religion as an excuse for interfering in Syria by supporting a Ba'athi mass-murdering dictator and because of their MISUSE and perversion of Twelver Islam which itself has been perverted already by Wilayat al-Faqih and other systems/scholars/fake publications in order to serve their political goals in the region.

His Twitter account.

https://twitter.com/SHEMRANI1424

Another Twitter account run by Iranian Sunnis.

https://twitter.com/sonsofsunnah

There are many others.

Also I am not surprised that you left Islam @SALMAN F . You can thank your Shia Twelverism for that and Wilayat al-Faqih in particular which has been a cancer for traditional Shia Islam in both Lebanon and Iraq post 2003 and in Lebanon since the late 1980's. Unfortunately. This is not a dilemma that other Shia Arabs face (Twelver, Ismaili, Zaydi etc.) Actually, as I wrote before, in post 24, I do not blame you and I would probably do the same.

 

[SALMAN F]

I don't glorify anyone as there were more Arab scientists and both Iranians and Arab scientists worked together and very few of those scientists were anti-Muslim or anti-Islam but mostly ANTI-ESTABLISHMENT. Two very different things.

Yes, he saved Iran by mass-murdering Iranians, erasing Iranian history and making Iran irrelevant in the Muslim world and also in terms of innovation and scientists. Zero well-known Iranian scientists or personalities of a scale similar to previous, Sunni Persian, ones, post-Safavids. This is a fact.

This also contributed to some of the identity crisis that Iranians have and dilemmas they face which Tajiks for instance do not face. Let alone political isolation in the region which has come at a very high price.

Hate him? Well, they must thank him for being Iranians today and not Syrians, Lebanese, Iraqis, Saudi Arabians and Bahrainis, lol.

The ethnic Persian Sunnis of Iran
September 11, 2014

Ethnic Persian (yes, Persians, not Baloch or Kurds or other Iranic people) Sunnis of Iran:



1. Khorassani Persians – The Iranian province of Khorassan in east Iran is home to Khorassani-Persian Sunnis. Even Mashad (which is just next to Neishabur, where Imam Muslim is buried) has a Sunni minority. Some cities in Khorassan of Iran are even majority Sunni (like Birjand and Torbat-e Jam). Khorassani Persians are Hanafi Sunnis and culturally (and of course by language) no different to their fellow Persians in Isfahani, Tehrani, Shirazi etc.


2. Larestani Persians of south Iran who are Shafi’i-Sunnis. Larestan county is locatd in the Fars province (historically ALL of south Iran i.e. what is known today as the southern part of the Fars province and the whole coast line i.e. Hormozgan was known as Larestan). The people in this area refer to themselves as “Khodmooni” (خودموني) or Achomi (اچمی) the former stands for “of our own”/Khodmooni, which is to make themselves distinguished from both Shia Persians and the Arab Sunnis who also live in that area.

Khodmoonis are known of being very proud of their Iranian heritage, to such an extent that many Bastaki (another town in the Larestan area) people for instance emigrated to Dubai, Bahrain, Saudi (especially Khobar) and Kuwait (like many southern Persians did after refusing to pay taxes to Nasir al-Din, the last member of the Qajar dynasty and refusing to give up their Sunni faith when in the 16th history the Turkish Rafidi Safavids started an onslaught and massacre of everything that was Sunni, and even when the killing stopped, still high taxes pushed non-Shia Iranians to migrate) yet despite that, the majority never forgot their origin, in fact there are many Bastakis (and other Larestanis/Khodmunis of course) in Dubai, Bahrain, Kuwait, Qatar, Saudi Arabia and Oman, who have carried their unique Persian culture, language, and architecture with them. They have named their neighbourhood in Dubai, Bastakiyyah, after their town of Bastak in southern Persia, which is to this very day (despite the enmity of the Shia regime) majority Sunni. In fact many high officials in the Gulf, particularly in the UAE are of Persian origin and basically were a main factor for the development of the Gulf states (some of the biggest businessmen in the UAE are of Larestani-Persian origin).

3. Persian Sunnis of major Shia cities such as Tehran, Tabriz, Isfahan, Shiraz, Hamedan, Arak etc.

There are small Sunni communties in every Shia city of Iran, the Persians among them are either Sunnis by birth (or as it is the case with many, especially in cities such as Tehran and Isfahan) converts from Shi’ism to Islam/Sunnah.

https://sonsofsunnah.com/2014/09/11/the-ethnic-persian-sunnis-of-iran/

The Arabs of Iran – Sunnis or Shias?
October 22, 2014

A map about Arabs and Arabic speakers (including Iran):


Out dated Iranian gov. sources (and CIA sources) give a roughly estimate of 1-2 million (2-3% of the entire population). Some extremist Arab groups (particularly Ahwazis) represent the other side of the extreme, claiming there are 10 million Arabs in Iran. The truth seems to be somewhere in the middle (or close to it), for according to some independant sources there is an estimate of 3-5 million Arabs living inside Iran.


1. The Arabs of the coastal areas of Iran (Arab as-Sahel/ عرب الساحل)

The Arabs of the coastal regions of Iran (Bushehr and Hormozgan): are relatively small in number (a few hundred thousand) for the majority of the Sunnis (Shafi’is) of the south are the native (Lari/Achomi) Persian Sunnis. However, traditionally some coastal areas (since the arrival of Islam) of the south were inhabited by Arab tribes who without exception are (Shafi’i) Sunnis (unlike the Ahwazi Arabs who are majority Shia).

Many major tribes of the Arabian peninsula migreated (mostly after the arrival of Islam) to the southern Iranian shores, including Bani Tamim, Bani Hammad, al-Maraziq (Marzuqis), al-Qawasim (the rulers of UAE) etc. during some periods of history some of those tribes even had their own emirates in the coastal areas of Iran. Culturally there is almost zero difference between Iranian coastal Arabs and the Arabs in the Gulf countries. Men and women traditional dresses, accent and dialects, custom etc. are all similar to identical, in some southern Iranian towns one could think of himself to be in Bahrain or the Emirates instead of Iran. Gulf Arabic is spoken by southern Iranians Arabs (resembles Emirati Arabic the most) and many Persian Sunnis.

2. Ahwazi Arabs

Khuzestan was formerly known as ‘Arabistan’ (the land of Arabs), for obvious reasons ( most of it southern parts are populated by Arabs). Even the Safavids right up to the Qajar dynasty called this area ‘Arabistan’ (whereas in Arabic it’s known as ‘al-Ahwaz’). It was the Pahlavi dynasty, starting with Reza Pahlavi who changed the name of this region including many Arab cities into Persian ones. Interestingly the Iranian regime that claims Islam also followed the footsteps of the chauvinist Pahlavis, in fact the Iranian regime is even more aggressive in its ‘Persianisation’ politics than the previous regime. Arabistan was a semi-autonomous sheikhdom until 1925, when it was brought under central Iranian government control and later renamed, marking the start of a systematic campaign to Persianise if not obliterate the Arabs of Arabistan (them being Shias didnt help them a lot, for the deep grudge the Iranian Shia regime holds for Arabs is based on the Shia religion itself, hence the support to Palestinians and other Arabs groups are for the sake of propaganda and a certain agenda Iran follows, any Ahwazi Arab can tell a story how Iran would treat Arabs once they are fully under their control, see the killings in Syria were Iran aided an Alawite regime to kill thousands of Arabs).

The Arab (particularly Ahwazi) presence in Iran did not begin with the Islamic conquest of Persia in 633 AD. For centuries, Iranian rulers had maintained contacts with Arabs outside their borders, dealt with Arab subjects and client states in Iraq, and settled Arab tribesmen in various parts of the Iranian plateau. Extremist Persian nationalist groups claim that Ahwazi Arabs are recent immigrants, or at best Arab tribes who settled in Persia after the arrival of Islam. This is not true and contradicts historical accounts which state that Arab tribes have been settled in this very area (including Iraq) thousand of years BC. Arab Ahwazis are not ‘Persianised Arabs’ (except a very small minority), most Ahwazi Arabs trace their origin back to well known Arabic tribes, from the Bani Kaab, Ban Turuf to Bani Tamim. All Arab customs and traditions can be found among Ahwazi Arabs, from the dressing to traditional music.

Ahwazi Arabs (like the absolute majority of Iranian Arabs) are bilingual, speaking Arabic as their mother tongue, and Persian as a second language. The variety of Arabic spoken in the province is Khuzestani Arabic, which is a Mesopotamian dialect shared by Arabs across the border in Iraq and Kuwait. It can be easily understood by other Arabic-speakers. Apparently it resembles the Basrah (Basrawi) accent the most.

Most Ahwazi Arabs are Shias (like southern Iraqis), however, just like southern Iraq has a Sunni minority (in almost ever Shia city, like Basrah etc.), the Ahwazi Arabs too traditionally have a small Sunni minority. In addition to that, the recent mass-conversions from Shiism to Sunnism (even with fear acknowledged by the Iranian regime) have massily increased the number of Sunnis in this region, no other Shia regime of Iran has witnessed mass-conversions like in Khuzestan/Arabistan (although the new phenomenon of conversions from Shiism to Sunnism is known in all of Iran, particularly amongst Persian Shias).

3. Khorassani Arabs

A quite unknown groups. The Arabs in Khorasan are a group of Arabs who immigrated to Khorasan Province, Iran, during the Abbasid Caliphate (750−1513).

Most Khorasani Arabs belong to the tribes of Sheybani, Zangooyi, Mishmast, Khozaima, and Azdi, Khaz’al etc. Khorasan Arabs are Persian speakers, and only a few speak Arabic as their mother tongue. The cities of Birjand, Mashhad, and Nishapur are home to large groups of Khorasan Arabs. Amongst them are Sunnis and Shias.

4. Khamseh Arabs

Khamseh nomads live in eastern Fars Province. The Khamseh is a tribal confederation in the province of Fars in southwestern Iran. It consists of five tribes, hence its name Khamseh, “the five”. The tribes are still partly nomadic, and some are Arabic speaking. They are sheep breeders, which they herd mounted on camels.

The history of the Khamseh confederation of tribes starts in 1861–1862 when Shah Naser ed-Din created the Khamseh Tribal Confederation. He combined five existing nomadic tribes, the Arab, Nafar, Baharlu, Inalu, and the Basseri and placed them under the control of the Qavam ol-Molk family. The pattern of forcibly uniting tribes was not a new idea, as the Safavid Shahs previously created homogenous Kizilbash confederations to temper the increasing strength of the Qashqai, who were gaining so much power. The Khamseh tribes were a mixture of Turks, Luri, and Arabs, but they all came to be called Arabs in contrast to the Turkic Qashqai.

5. Persian (in some cases other Iranian ethnic group) families with Arab ancestry:

These group are not Arabs are neither by themselves nor others inside Iran considered as Arabs, neither linguistically, nor culturally nor traditionally, however as a matter of fact , many Arab tribes, particularly in pre-Safavid Persia have been settled in all major Persian cities, including Shiraz, Isfahan and Ray (Tehran). Therefore it is much likely that many Persian families are descendants of Arab tribes or at least mixed. In fact many Iranian (Persian, Azeri and other ethnic groups) families carry names of Arab tribes such as Banu ‘Amer (Ameris) etc.

Then there are the Shia (and Sunni) Sayyids ( Sadah – سادة) , both claiming ancestry to the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him). The authenticity of all those claims can certainly be disputed, for many claimants do not even carry a family tree, however, historically many of the Alawites have settled in Iran, from Mazandaran (Tabaristan in the north) to the Abbasids who ruled Persia and settled in Khorassan and later in the Fars province. It is hence not unlikely that some Persians are descendants of the Quraysh (or even the Prophet Muhammad directly), Sunnis and Shias alike (there are Sunni and Shia Sayyids inside Iran) for intermarriages between the Alawites, Abbasids and other Arab tribes and the Persians did occur.

https://sonsofsunnah.com/2014/10/22/the-arabs-of-iran-sunnis-or-shias/

The Jam’e (large Mosque) of Bastak (Persian Sunni town)
March 1, 2015

The Jame’ of Bastak. Note the striking similarity to Gulf Mosques, opposed to the common Iranian Shia mosques that are mostly based on Safavid architecture. Here some pictures:








Bastak is a majority Sunni town, inhabited by ethnic Persian Sunnis (also known as Achomis/Larestanis/Khodmonis, a very influencial minority in almost all Khalij countries, many politicans and even Sunni Shaykhs in the Khalij are of southern Persian origin). Ethnic Persians are a minority amongst Iranian Sunnis (most Iranian Sunnis are Kurds, Baloch and Turkmen), however contrary to the misconception that many hold about the Sunnis of Iran – i.e. that all Sunni Iranians are of non-Persian ethnicity (like Kurds and Baloch) and that virtually all ethnic Persians in Iran are Shiites – in fact many southern Persians (many who fled major Persian cities such as Isfahan and Shiraz after the onslaught of the Safavids) are Sunnis to this very day, in fact the Larestan province and the Hormozgan (that also has a Arab Sunni minority) province is a traditionally Sunni-Shafi’i stronghold and in Khorassan the Khorassanis are a notable minority too, most of them of Persian ethnic backround. More about ethnic Persian Sunnis:

https://sonsofsunnah.com/2014/09/11/the-ethnic-persian-sunnis-of-iran/


The (Shafi’i) Mufti of south Iran (Fars province)
October 9, 2014


– He Studied Shari’ah in the Madinah University
– He acquired his PhD degree in Sudan
– Compiled many books in the field of Fiqh and Usool Al-Fiqh
– Known as the ‘Shaykh Al-Shafi’iyyah’ (Shaykh of the Shafi’is) in Iran
– He is of course fluent in Arabic (not like the absolute majority of Shia ‘Ayatullats’ who can’t even recite a Fatiha correctly)
– He is known for his orthodox Sunni-Shafi’i Aqidah and was more than once prevented by the Iranian regime to participate at major Sunni gatherings in Iran (what the regime also often does is to confisnicate the passports of Sunni scholars in order to prevent them to do Hajj or ‘Umra and to connect with the wider Sunni world in public)
– He runs many Shafi’i schools inside Iran (all under heavy pressure)


NOTE: As we have explained in previous posts, the Sunnis of Iran (the largest religious minority in Iran, 10% acc. to regime sources, at least 20-30% acc. to Sunni Iranian sources) are not just made up by non-Persian ethnic groups (like Baloch, Kurds etc.), this is a misconception, for there are still many ethnic Persian Sunnis in Iran, particularly in the Iranian Khorassan province (Persian Hanafis) and in the southern provinces of Iran (Fars and Hormozgan province, majority of the Sunnis there are Persian Larestani Shafi’is). South Iran is actually still a Shafi’i-Sunni fortress with many Shafi’i schools (in Pre-Safavid Iran most Persians were Shafi’is followed by Hanafis).

When the Safavids under Ismail I decided to convert everyone residing in current day Iran from Sunni to Shiite Islam in 1501, they started arranged attacks and massacres against the Sunni Persians who refused to convert (Persian Sunnis from Ray-Tehrani, Shirazi, Isfahani and other major Persian Sunnis were either slaughtered or forced to become Shiites), as a result, many Sunni Persians left their hometowns for the Zagros Mountains. After the Battle of Chaldiran where the Safavids lost to the Ottoman the Sunni Persians descended from the mountains to begin a new life in the land they named “Bastak”, meaning barrier or backstop signifying barrier from Shiite Safavids’ attacks and influences. So the southern Persian (Shafi’is) are basically the remainders of the Persian (majority Shafi’i) Sunni population of Iran. They are a minority (Persian Sunnis) but still existing in Iran and in the southern parts they even make up the indigenous majority of the population.

https://sonsofsunnah.com/2014/10/09/the-shafii-mufti-of-south-iran-fars-province/

An Persian brother who saw the light being interview by an Egyptian brother. Both based in the UK.

This video contains no religious slurs, ethnic ones or anything that is against forum rules. It is a sane and cordial discussion.

Why is it relevant people might ask? Well, it is relevant because the "Islamic" "Republic" of Iran's key role in the Syrian bloodbath and their use of religion as an excuse for their regional projects.

Therefore it is refreshing to hear an Iranian who knows their system, rhetoric, tactics etc. touch upon such subjects and what made him embrace Sunni Islam.

The way he describes the "Islamic Republic", it's religious practices, those of the ordinary people, leadership, Iranian diaspora in the West etc. is really what most other sources also tell. For those who still live in ignorance watch the two videos in their entirety. Especially the dumb Arab minority that claims to be religious (Shia Muslims and Islamists) that blindly follows this fake "Islamic" "Republic" and their Mullah's.

This is important and relevant only because the same "Islamic" Republic uses religion as an excuse for interfering in Syria by supporting a Ba'athi mass-murdering dictator and because of their MISUSE and perversion of Twelver Islam which itself has been perverted already by Wilayat al-Faqih and other systems/scholars/fake publications in order to serve their political goals in the region.

His Twitter account.

https://twitter.com/SHEMRANI1424

Another Twitter account run by Iranian Sunnis.

https://twitter.com/sonsofsunnah

There are many others.

Also I am not surprised that you left Islam @SALMAN F . You can thank your Shia Twelverism for that and Wilayat al-Faqih in particular which has been a cancer for traditional Shia Islam in both Lebanon and Iraq post 2003 and in Lebanon since the late 1980's. Unfortunately. This is not a dilemma that other Shia Arabs face (Twelver, Ismaili, Zaydi etc.) Actually, as I wrote before, in post 24, I do not blame you and I would probably do the same.

I know these articles of the wahhabi filth website of these dogs who claim to be iranian Sunnis but they are not I know that website since2014 and I can expose all of their lies

The iranian regime is libral compare to the sunni regimes like al saud, ibn tayyimia,abdulwahab,and isis

Infact shiasm is less terrorist and extremist tgan Sunnism and even I though I left it because there is no sane human being follow a religion with nonsense teachings you say if you were like me you would leave islam also well actually I am an honest who also used to live in denial

And please don't say I left islam because I was shia because the shia say the same about your people who leave islam like yousef khalaf or ismaeel abu adam aka converted2islam on YouTube

And give us a favore and make your posts short so we can understand your point

 

[Sargon of Akkad]

I know these articles of the wahhabi filth website of these dogs who claim to be iranian Sunnis but they are not I know that website since2014 and I can expose all of their lies

The iranian regime is libral compare to the sunni regimes like al saud, ibn tayyimia,abdulwahab,and isis

Infact shiasm is less terrorist and extremist tgan Sunnism and even I though I left it because there is no sane human being follow a religion with nonsense teachings you say if you were like me you would leave islam also well actually I am an honest who also used to live in denial

And please don't say I left islam because I was shia because the shia say the same about your people who leave islam like yousef khalaf or ismaeel abu adam aka converted2islam on YouTube

And give us a favore and make your posts short so we can understand your point

You left Islam due to Wilayat al-Faqih. If you had followed traditional Shia Islam and kept away from Iranian Mullah's that would not have happened.

Also those honorable people are Iranians. Take a look at the video I posted, the articles and the webpage. Now you are being silly.

Anyway you can be an Atheist if that is what you want but why are you anti-Arab as an Arab yourself? Stop trolling and embarrassing yourself.

As for Arab regimes none of them are overly religious which everyone knows. We all know that they amount to nothing mostly. Don't care about Saud, Al-Sisi, Al-Assad etc.

Anyway now you should join anti-Muslim and anti-Arab Iranians in the West to make propaganda against Muslims and hateful speech against Arabs. Maybe even start attacking American Arabs who are peaceful people!

 

[SALMAN F]

You left Islam due to Wilayat al-Faqih. If you had followed traditional Shia Islam and kept away from Iranian Mullah's that would not have happened.

Also those honorable people are Iranians. Take a look at the video I posted, the articles and the webpage. Now you are being silly.

Anyway you can be an Atheist if that is what you want but why are you anti-Arab as an Arab yourself? Stop trolling and embarrassing yourself.

As for Arab regimes none of them are overly religious which everyone knows. We all know that they amount to nothing mostly. Don't care about Saud, Al-Sisi, Al-Assad etc.

I left islam because of Quran and muhammad and not because shiasm or wilayet al faqih because like I said if a sunni leaves islam the shia would tell him that he was not a real muslim following real islam rather than Umayyad made islam and the same goes to you

When did I say something against arabs don't you see you always jumb from subject to another and always try to make it personal??!

 

[EgyptianAmerican]

I know these articles of the wahhabi filth website of these dogs who claim to be iranian Sunnis but they are not I know that website since2014 and I can expose all of their lies

The iranian regime is libral compare to the sunni regimes like al saud, ibn tayyimia,abdulwahab,and isis

Infact shiasm is less terrorist and extremist tgan Sunnism and even I though I left it because there is no sane human being follow a religion with nonsense teachings you say if you were like me you would leave islam also well actually I am an honest who also used to live in denial

And please don't say I left islam because I was shia because the shia say the same about your people who leave islam like yousef khalaf or ismaeel abu adam aka converted2islam on YouTube

And give us a favore and make your posts short so we can understand your point

Oh god you watched that bullshit?

Oh god no wonder you are such a idiot! HAHAHAHAHA!



Everything makes so much sense now, you have been brainwashed by liars