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Fars News Agency :: Hezbollah Warns Israel against Attacks on Iran, Lebanon

So Israel will get an excuse to invade Lebanon, again.

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Why do you think iran supplies hezbolla? if iran is attacked then hezbolla will strike isreal.
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Fars News Agency :: Hezbollah Warns Israel against Attacks on Iran, Lebanon

So Israel will get an excuse to invade Lebanon, again.
 
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yeah and it will get f***ed up again...same thing will happened to them as it did last time they invaded, this time only much worst.

but maybe the usa will help them this time, eithier way hamas should not be underestimated.
isreal should first destroy hamases missile/rocket facilities but then again no one knows where they are.
 
good work Iran i think Iran has ability to war against Israel but United State Of America is standing front of Israel.

well said. it is a fact and the main reason for the usa arrival in this region. the protection of ISRAEL.

but usa claims that it is here to protect its other allies too. actually it is deceiving them just like it deceived saddam. usa knows well that iran will never initiate a war.

iran is against no one except israel. but it is usa claim that iran is a threat to its neighbours.
 
To go to war against everyone you do not agree with and with being clearly in a disadvantage is the stupidest thing a country can do. Best thing you do is to wait until you are strong enough to force your word on the world and that only comes with good economy these days and a good tech base.

There is no oppression here in KSA we are living mighty high from the government only the clerics are the ones that need to go.(And the government is flushing them little by little) And justice is great in this country we have an extremely low crime rate. Respect, Azerbaijan is a shia state yet KSA enjoys a great relationship with Azerbaijan how do you explain that??

we only wait for Imam Mahdi(a.s) who will restore justice as told by Holy Prophet (pbuh). no other have such sense or understanding of religion. others only make laws for their own benefit. saud is an open example who according to their own criteria and laws is the owner of all the oil wealth and land of arabia.

this is your false claim that there is no oppression in ksa. Those who go for pilgrimage from Pakistan are not allowed to perform prayers in a shia way and you are telling there is no oppression. last year 28th safar some youngters from dammam beat the muttawas in masjid nabavi when they stopped them praying in shia way. LOL later they were taken by police and beaten. no one knows what happened to them. it is state oppression and even women cannot drive. Look women are better aware of sharia than the saud. hehe!

Azerbaijan is a usa puppet and not a shia state and hence it is normal to have good relation with another usa puppet.
 
Hello,

I dont respond to personnel attack but it showed that every one who disagree with u is a terrorists so there is no defference between u and all those u r taking against they also supress the others according to u bcoz they dont agree with them.
And no i dont use any bad words or try to disrespect anybody

TARIQ
 
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yeah and it will get f***ed up again...same thing will happened to them as it did last time they invaded, this time only much worst.

but maybe the usa will help them this time, eithier way hamas should not be underestimated.
isreal should first destroy hamases missile/rocket facilities but then again no one knows where they are.

In 2006, by investing a fraction of their military force and sacrificing around 100 soldiers Israel successfully attracted the World's attention towards the Hezbollah. Now the UN is guarding the border b/n Israel & Lebanon. Next time when there is any provocation by Hezbollah, Israel will accuse of UN of not doing enough and they will launch a full scale invasion of the country with all their force. UN will face a hard time opposing Israel, as they themselves will have to face the criticism first. This was Israel's game and they successfully implemented it and here is Hezbollah and their backers claiming victory. If they are victorious why Nasrallah is still hiding.

Anyways another segment of the game plan is being undertaken in Syria. If Bashar falls and the new Syrian regime is pro-West, Hezbollah can kiss their logistics good bye.
 
Iran had made it clear that if there is any attack on them , they will bomb Israel & Gulf Countries( especially UAE), no matter the attack came from them or not. Thats not effective, its madness.
@HARPOON


from iranian perspective that's very effective, this tactic to a very large extent would make the regional countries which are in cohorts with the US think of themselves individually & the consequences of any such adventure would have a great deal of relevance to the countries involved directly & indirectly.
 
Iranians are smart but the mullahs who rule Iran are not.
@HARPOON

what makes you think that the mullahs are not smart.

Eg: Iran Iraq War. Saddam was ready for a ceasefire in 1982, 2 years after the war started, on the basis of the pre-war status quo. But the Mullahs rejected the offer and Iran waged war for another 6 years using the (in) famous human waves against dug -in Iraqi positions. The human wave volunteers mainly teenagers perished in their thousands running into Iraqi machine gun nests and mine fields. Who is responsible for their deaths? I blame the stupid Mullahs who have bigger than world egos and suffers from God Complex. I can't believe how they slept at nights with the blood of teenagers in their hands.
 
Eg: Iran Iraq War. Saddam was ready for a ceasefire in 1982, 2 years after the war started, on the basis of the pre-war status quo. But the Mullahs rejected the offer and Iran waged war for another 6 years using the (in) famous human waves against dug -in Iraqi positions. The human wave volunteers mainly teenagers perished in their thousands running into Iraqi machine gun nests and mine fields. Who is responsible for their deaths? I blame the stupid Mullahs who have bigger than world egos and suffers from God Complex. I can't believe how they slept at nights with the blood of teenagers in their hands.

the human waves tactic was only used in the war for boston to clear up the mine fields. the human wave attack was then followed by iranian armoured and infantry attack that stormed and captured boston. this tactic was nowhere else used during the war.

they were defending their country. they cannot be blamed at all.

i think you are not aware of the mullas conditions for ceasefire which were rejected by the war mongers??? they did their best for the future of their nation despite all opposition of the world. even the country of ghandi jee too supported the warmonger.
 
Eg: Iran Iraq War. Saddam was ready for a ceasefire in 1982, 2 years after the war started, on the basis of the pre-war status quo. But the Mullahs rejected the offer and Iran waged war for another 6 years using the (in) famous human waves against dug -in Iraqi positions. The human wave volunteers mainly teenagers perished in their thousands running into Iraqi machine gun nests and mine fields. Who is responsible for their deaths? I blame the stupid Mullahs who have bigger than world egos and suffers from God Complex. I can't believe how they slept at nights with the blood of teenagers in their hands.
oh god, another Iran expert!
Einstein, when Saddam was ready to sign the ceasefire, Iran was crippled and already under sanctions. IRaq was untouched and still had the support of almost every body with an army MUCH BIGGER than Iran. Saddam wanted time to regroup and to collect even more toys. Accepting a ceasefire under those conditions would've been madness on Iran's part. If that had happened, Saddam could have attacked a year later with much better tactics and weapons.

if you don't know shi t, don't open your mouth.


and the human wave attacks happened in one or two battles where the soldiers were already dead men. They were then used by the regime to inspire other soldiers. In the West, they advertised this as if it was Iran's main tactic. The amount of propeganda against Iran is so much that braindead individuals have a hard time separating fact from fiction (ie, you).
 
LOL. this is the problem with you guys. see nothing unless prompted. shiites do not have horns on their head as you people are taught from your childhood. better educate yourself. (no offence just kidding). this will help you in understanding arabia The Denominational Map of Saudi Arabia - Saudi Shia

this is a video of a funeral of a popular shia cleric who died this year and burried in jannat ul baqi. his funeral was the largest ever funeral held in madina munawarra under saud rule.


What is Iran teaching you B@KH?? That when Saudis see a shia they kick him in the street and then run? that shias cry day in and day out because of saud rule which is killing them?? Shias in Saudi Arabia have the same treatments as other saudis they get free education and they get free health care hell the better amount of education is given to them in the eastern province so they can work better in the oil companies.

You say that each sect should remain in its own then?? So shias do not get dirty with people from najd living in the eastern province so they should not move there?? this is one country for all its people. the hardliners clerics are losing power and it is in everyone's favor.
 
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oh god, another Iran expert!
Einstein, when Saddam was ready to sign the ceasefire, Iran was crippled and already under sanctions. IRaq was untouched and still had the support of almost every body with an army MUCH BIGGER than Iran. Saddam wanted time to regroup and to collect even more toys. Accepting a ceasefire under those conditions would've been madness on Iran's part. If that had happened, Saddam could have attacked a year later with much better tactics and weapons.

if you don't know shi t, don't open your mouth.


and the human wave attacks happened in one or two battles where the soldiers were already dead men. They were then used by the regime to inspire other soldiers. In the West, they advertised this as if it was Iran's main tactic. The amount of propeganda against Iran is so much that braindead individuals have a hard time separating fact from fiction (ie, you).

O Great One, for mere mortals like me the main source of information is internet sites like Wikipedia as we don't speak the divine Farsi language.Pls spare your valuable time to read the following extract from Wikipedia about Iran Iraq War:

On 20 June 1982 Saddam announced that he was prepared to accept a ceasefire on the basis of the pre-war status quo.[60] Khomeini rejected the Iraqi peace offer, and announced that only the overthrow of the Baath regime and its replacement with an Shia Islamic republic were the only peace terms he would accept.[60] Given that Saddam's offer of 1982 served as the basis of the 1988 ceasefire, Khomeini's decision to reject Saddam's offer, and instead invade Iraq extended the war for the next six years[65]. The British historians John Bulloch and Harvey Morris wrote:
"If the leaders in Tehran had accepted [the Iraqi ceasefire offer], they might have gained at the conference table what over six years they failed to achieve at a huge cost in men and material; but true to the bitterness and intransigence shown by both sides, Ayatollah Khomeini rejected the ceasefire offer and the Iranian troops fought on. Iran would remain at war until all of its demands were met, the Ayatollah said-and one of those demands was the removal of Saddam Hussein, the one condition which the Iraqi President could never accept"[66]

On 21 June 1982 Khomenini proclaimed in a speech that Iran would invade Iraq and would not stop until an Islamic Shia republic was set up in that country.[60] The decision to invade Iraq was taken after much debate within the Iranian government.[67] One fraction comprising Prime Minister Mir-Hossein Mousavi, the Foreign Minister Ali Akbar Velayati, President Ali Khamenei and the Army Chief of Staff General Ali Sayad Shirazi urged that now that all of Iranian soil had been liberated to accept the Iraqi ceasefire offer rather embark upon an invasion that was likely to take a heavy toll on Iran's youth and with uncertain prospects for victory.[67] In particular, General Shirazi was opposed to the invasion of Iraq on logistical grounds and said he was considering resignation if "unqualified people continued to meddle with the conduct of the war".[67] On the other side, there was a hardline fraction led by clerics on the Supreme Defence Council, whose leader was the politically powerful Speaker of the Majlis Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani who favored continuing the war until the Baath were overthrown.[67] Khomeini sided with the hardliners.[67]

The main reason for continuing the war was the replacement of Saddam and establishment of Shia regime in Iraq which was unacceptable for Iraq or any country in Iraq's position. Your then president,PM,Army Chief all opposed the move to invade Iraq but it was given go ahead because of pressure from hardline mullahs. In otherwords your clerics caused the deaths of thousands of young men & teenagers of your country for their own self glory and to satisfy their huge egos. In anyother country they would have been tried for incompetence & crime against own people. Your govt rejected the peace offer in 1982, but 6 years & 1 million deaths later they accepted the same. I would call it the utter disregard that your govt(especially clerics) have for the lives of their people and the prosperity of the country as a whole.

Your whole argument of destroying the iraqi military doesn't hold any water. Even after the end of war, Iraq had the most powerful military in Middle East. Thats why KSA had to invite US to oppose Iraq as even their military was powerless in front of Saddam's Army.

Using human wave to defend your country is one thing, but using the same to invade another country is just unacceptable. Your govt used human wave in Operation Ramadan carried out to capture Basra Operation Ramadan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
O Great One, for mere mortals like me the main source of information is internet sites like Wikipedia as we don't speak the divine Farsi language.Pls spare your valuable time to read the following extract from Wikipedia about Iran Iraq War:

On 20 June 1982 Saddam announced that he was prepared to accept a ceasefire on the basis of the pre-war status quo.[60] Khomeini rejected the Iraqi peace offer, and announced that only the overthrow of the Baath regime and its replacement with an Shia Islamic republic were the only peace terms he would accept.[60] Given that Saddam's offer of 1982 served as the basis of the 1988 ceasefire, Khomeini's decision to reject Saddam's offer, and instead invade Iraq extended the war for the next six years[65]. The British historians John Bulloch and Harvey Morris wrote:
"If the leaders in Tehran had accepted [the Iraqi ceasefire offer], they might have gained at the conference table what over six years they failed to achieve at a huge cost in men and material; but true to the bitterness and intransigence shown by both sides, Ayatollah Khomeini rejected the ceasefire offer and the Iranian troops fought on. Iran would remain at war until all of its demands were met, the Ayatollah said-and one of those demands was the removal of Saddam Hussein, the one condition which the Iraqi President could never accept"[66]

On 21 June 1982 Khomenini proclaimed in a speech that Iran would invade Iraq and would not stop until an Islamic Shia republic was set up in that country.[60] The decision to invade Iraq was taken after much debate within the Iranian government.[67] One fraction comprising Prime Minister Mir-Hossein Mousavi, the Foreign Minister Ali Akbar Velayati, President Ali Khamenei and the Army Chief of Staff General Ali Sayad Shirazi urged that now that all of Iranian soil had been liberated to accept the Iraqi ceasefire offer rather embark upon an invasion that was likely to take a heavy toll on Iran's youth and with uncertain prospects for victory.[67] In particular, General Shirazi was opposed to the invasion of Iraq on logistical grounds and said he was considering resignation if "unqualified people continued to meddle with the conduct of the war".[67] On the other side, there was a hardline fraction led by clerics on the Supreme Defence Council, whose leader was the politically powerful Speaker of the Majlis Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani who favored continuing the war until the Baath were overthrown.[67] Khomeini sided with the hardliners.[67]

The main reason for continuing the war was the replacement of Saddam and establishment of Shia regime in Iraq which was unacceptable for Iraq or any country in Iraq's position. Your then president,PM,Army Chief all opposed the move to invade Iraq but it was given go ahead because of pressure from hardline mullahs. In otherwords your clerics caused the deaths of thousands of young men & teenagers of your country for their own self glory and to satisfy their huge egos. In anyother country they would have been tried for incompetence & crime against own people. Your govt rejected the peace offer in 1982, but 6 years & 1 million deaths later they accepted the same. I would call it the utter disregard that your govt(especially clerics) have for the lives of their people and the prosperity of the country as a whole.

Your whole argument of destroying the iraqi military doesn't hold any water. Even after the end of war, Iraq had the most powerful military in Middle East. Thats why KSA had to invite US to oppose Iraq as even their military was powerless in front of Saddam's Army.

Using human wave to defend your country is one thing, but using the same to invade another country is just unacceptable. Your govt used human wave in Operation Ramadan carried out to capture Basra Operation Ramadan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

You know what's funny harpoon?? the US invasion of Iraq served the exact wants of Khomeini of installing a shia pro-iran government in Iraq. So why do they see the US as an enemy when infact the invasion of Iraq was one of the greatest things to happen to Iran in a long time.
 
You know what's funny harpoon?? the US invasion of Iraq served the exact wants of Khomeini of installing a shia pro-iran government in Iraq. So why do they see the US as an enemy when infact the invasion of Iraq was one of the greatest things to happen to Iran in a long time.

usa invaded iraq to prevent an islamic revolution. Instead of installing democracy it created a secterian setup there. Democratically only shias can rule iraq so a secterian setup was installed there under the supervision of usa to prevent a full take over of iraq by the shias.

if usa would not have invaded iraq, then today iraq would have been another powerful shia country. If saddam close circle was broken and was ready to cooperate with revolutionary forces. (e.g saddam' son-inlaws were killed by saddam due to rebellion). so saddam was a rotten puppet and a risk and hence was removed.

usa and saudi infact has created a disabled iraq. once the usa+saud is gone things will change in Iraq.
 

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