Iran fires missiles into Indian Ocean

[B@KH]

O Great One, for mere mortals like me the main source of information is internet sites like Wikipedia as we don't speak the divine Farsi language.Pls spare your valuable time to read the following extract from Wikipedia about Iran Iraq War:

On 20 June 1982 Saddam announced that he was prepared to accept a ceasefire on the basis of the pre-war status quo.[60] Khomeini rejected the Iraqi peace offer, and announced that only the overthrow of the Baath regime and its replacement with an Shia Islamic republic were the only peace terms he would accept.[60] Given that Saddam's offer of 1982 served as the basis of the 1988 ceasefire, Khomeini's decision to reject Saddam's offer, and instead invade Iraq extended the war for the next six years[65]. The British historians John Bulloch and Harvey Morris wrote:
"If the leaders in Tehran had accepted [the Iraqi ceasefire offer], they might have gained at the conference table what over six years they failed to achieve at a huge cost in men and material; but true to the bitterness and intransigence shown by both sides, Ayatollah Khomeini rejected the ceasefire offer and the Iranian troops fought on. Iran would remain at war until all of its demands were met, the Ayatollah said-and one of those demands was the removal of Saddam Hussein, the one condition which the Iraqi President could never accept"[66]

On 21 June 1982 Khomenini proclaimed in a speech that Iran would invade Iraq and would not stop until an Islamic Shia republic was set up in that country.[60] The decision to invade Iraq was taken after much debate within the Iranian government.[67] One fraction comprising Prime Minister Mir-Hossein Mousavi, the Foreign Minister Ali Akbar Velayati, President Ali Khamenei and the Army Chief of Staff General Ali Sayad Shirazi urged that now that all of Iranian soil had been liberated to accept the Iraqi ceasefire offer rather embark upon an invasion that was likely to take a heavy toll on Iran's youth and with uncertain prospects for victory.[67] In particular, General Shirazi was opposed to the invasion of Iraq on logistical grounds and said he was considering resignation if "unqualified people continued to meddle with the conduct of the war".[67] On the other side, there was a hardline fraction led by clerics on the Supreme Defence Council, whose leader was the politically powerful Speaker of the Majlis Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani who favored continuing the war until the Baath were overthrown.[67] Khomeini sided with the hardliners.[67]

The main reason for continuing the war was the replacement of Saddam and establishment of Shia regime in Iraq which was unacceptable for Iraq or any country in Iraq's position. Your then president,PM,Army Chief all opposed the move to invade Iraq but it was given go ahead because of pressure from hardline mullahs. In otherwords your clerics caused the deaths of thousands of young men & teenagers of your country for their own self glory and to satisfy their huge egos. In anyother country they would have been tried for incompetence & crime against own people. Your govt rejected the peace offer in 1982, but 6 years & 1 million deaths later they accepted the same. I would call it the utter disregard that your govt(especially clerics) have for the lives of their people and the prosperity of the country as a whole.

Your whole argument of destroying the iraqi military doesn't hold any water. Even after the end of war, Iraq had the most powerful military in Middle East. Thats why KSA had to invite US to oppose Iraq as even their military was powerless in front of Saddam's Army.

Using human wave to defend your country is one thing, but using the same to invade another country is just unacceptable. Your govt used human wave in Operation Ramadan carried out to capture Basra Operation Ramadan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

@HARPOON

this is biased article.

what were iran's demands for ceasefire?????

why nothing mentioned here.

Iran's demands were punishment of the aggressor and payment of damages inflicted. so there was no point of ceasefire when there was a risk that the invader with support of the world will go to war again with better organization and weapons.

advising to accept the ceasefire offer from a Pious Invader Saddam????? oh! some problem here.

similarly if the Pious world superpower initiated a war against IRAN then world should not expect a ceasefire from IRAN without the punishing of the invader. Saddam is a good example for ignorants and war mongers.

IRAN is not like INDIA or PAKISTAN who both support terrorists, invaders and war mongers, fight wars for nothing and then go to ceasefire after fighting for few days.

 

[B@KH]

What is Iran teaching you B@KH?? That when Saudis see a shia they kick him in the street and then run? that shias cry day in and day out because of saud rule which is killing them?? Shias in Saudi Arabia have the same treatments as other saudis they get free education and they get free health care hell the better amount of education is given to them in the eastern province so they can work better in the oil companies.

You say that each sect should remain in its own then?? So shias do not get dirty with people from najd living in the eastern province so they should not move there?? this is one country for all its people. the hardliners clerics are losing power and it is in everyone's favor.

Iran is an Islamic Republic and we respect them. Any threat to IRAN is a threat to Islam. All governments of the world including ours are against the Islamic Republic (with the exception of syria or new one in lebanon). These all governments are united with each other in conspiring against Islamic Republic. The Islamic Republic's only support base are the people.

I do no think the usa and its allies are more trust worthy than the Islamic Republic.

The other point is that if the saudis shias do not have any problem with saud then we too do not have any objection. I do not have anything against anyone on basis of their religion. If saud is trying to stop discrimination against others then it is the right thing they are doing it today which they would have done since their takeover of holy lands.

they also have deployed troops in their neighbour bahrain to suppress people there as the king is unable to control them.

Saud should also prevent itself to be used against iran by the usa. Iran is not going to attack anyone unless it is attacked. alliance with usa and providing them with military bases is a clear proof that saud is not competent and independent.
1. they supported saddam invasion against the new born Islamic Republic that was supported by the people of Iran.
2. they invited usa and provided the bases to them.
3. they are not the true supporters of the palestine cause.
4. they attempted for the recognition of israel.
5. they supported all usa allied dictators of the region.
6. they invaded bahrain to save the usa allied king.
7. they initiated terrorism in Pakistan.
8. they interfere in all islamic countries and support usa allies.
9. now they are after usa to destroy Islamic Republic.

but who will be destroyed in the end and who will survive, GOD knows better.

 

[Mosamania]

Iran is an Islamic Republic and we respect them. Any threat to IRAN is a threat to Islam. All governments of the world including ours are against the Islamic Republic (with the exception of syria or new one in lebanon). These all governments are united with each other in conspiring against Islamic Republic. The Islamic Republic's only support base are the people.

I do no think the usa and its allies are more trust worthy than the Islamic Republic.

The other point is that if the saudis shias do not have any problem with saud then we too do not have any objection. I do not have anything against anyone on basis of their religion. If saud is trying to stop discrimination against others then it is the right thing they are doing it today which they would have done since their takeover of holy lands.

they also have deployed troops in their neighbour bahrain to suppress people there as the king is unable to control them.

Saud should also prevent itself to be used against iran by the usa. Iran is not going to attack anyone unless it is attacked. alliance with usa and providing them with military bases is a clear proof that saud is not competent and independent.
1. they supported saddam invasion against the new born Islamic Republic that was supported by the people of Iran.
2. they invited usa and provided the bases to them.
3. they are not the true supporters of the palestine cause.
4. they attempted for the recognition of israel.
5. they supported all usa allied dictators of the region.
6. they invaded bahrain to save the usa allied king.
7. they initiated terrorism in Pakistan.
8. they interfere in all islamic countries and support usa allies.
9. now they are after usa to destroy Islamic Republic.

but who will be destroyed in the end and who will survive, GOD knows better.

USA no longer has bases in the kingdom we opposed the war on Iraq the second time and kicked all their bases out. And when all the world turned its back on Palastine we are the only ones able to stop Israel from annexing the rest of Palastine and yes we attempted recognition of Israel on the term Israel itself refused since we called for all the refugees return.

Bahrain was not an invasion genius as Iran leading the people to believe the Peninsula shield is the entire GCC army unit. And no we are fighting terrorism in Pakistan along with Pakistan, We wiped out Al-Qaeda in KSA since KSA itself was being bombed and destroyed by terrorists so how can a country call for its own downfall?? (People forget that one of Al-Qaeda's goals is to take over Saudi Arabia).

Saudi Arabia is cultivating a new bloc in the world to oppose all our enemies which include Israel and Iran. And Iran did not prove itself to be anti-Israel as it is Anti-Gulf countries.

 

[B@KH]

oh god, another Iran expert!
Einstein, when Saddam was ready to sign the ceasefire, Iran was crippled and already under sanctions. IRaq was untouched and still had the support of almost every body with an army MUCH BIGGER than Iran. Saddam wanted time to regroup and to collect even more toys. Accepting a ceasefire under those conditions would've been madness on Iran's part. If that had happened, Saddam could have attacked a year later with much better tactics and weapons.
if you don't know shi t, don't open your mouth.
and the human wave attacks happened in one or two battles where the soldiers were already dead men. They were then used by the regime to inspire other soldiers. In the West, they advertised this as if it was Iran's main tactic. The amount of propeganda against Iran is so much that braindead individuals have a hard time separating fact from fiction (ie, you).

well said brother. what is changed in the world today since the saddam invasion of Iran. Infact nothing special.

still all the countries are allied to each other against IRAN. they all support wars in one way or other. But consider themselves to be the most pious than each other.

Only IRAN and CHINA are proven neutral. both do not get involved in usa led wars. China recently turned down usa request for transit of supplies to their bases in afghanistan thru chinese territory. during usa invasion IRAQ and AFGHANISTAN were safe from the side of IRAN.

India offered logistics support to usa for afghan war, it provided logistics support to usa during invasion of iraq, it support saddam during its invasion of iran. (it also attacked pakistan but i know they will blame pakistan, just like they blame victim iran instead of saddam, they are also involved in terrorism in pakistan, but ok it is two sided)

all arab governments (except syria) supported saddam invasion of Iran, they supported usa invasion of iraq to remove their new enemy saddam who was their former friend. still today they push usa to invade iran.

Infact nothing has change in this world except IRAN with grace of Almighty GOD emerged victorious and powerful. with the will of GOD People one day will surely win against these war mongers, collaborators and puppets.

 

[Mosamania]

Iran is neutral......(put your proffered rage comic here)

B@KH you are becoming more and more boring with time....I told you KSA opposed Iraq invasion but you still cling to conspiracy theories and one sided articles.
I tell you one more time as long as Iran keeps supporting wars in KSA and keeps spreading hate towards KSA, KSA will have no choice but to look at Iran with a wary look.

 

[B@KH]

USA no longer has bases in the kingdom we opposed the war on Iraq the second time and kicked all their bases out. And when all the world turned its back on Palastine we are the only ones able to stop Israel from annexing the rest of Palastine and yes we attempted recognition of Israel on the term Israel itself refused since we called for all the refugees return.

Bahrain was not an invasion genius as Iran leading the people to believe the Peninsula shield is the entire GCC army unit. And no we are fighting terrorism in Pakistan along with Pakistan, We wiped out Al-Qaeda in KSA since KSA itself was being bombed and destroyed by terrorists so how can a country call for its own downfall?? (People forget that one of Al-Qaeda's goals is to take over Saudi Arabia).

Saudi Arabia is cultivating a new bloc in the world to oppose all our enemies which include Israel and Iran. And Iran did not prove itself to be anti-Israel as it is Anti-Gulf countries.

New bloc???? which new bloc???? it is the same bloc of which saddam was once part of it.

Iran is not war monger. Iran will never invade any country unless attacked and everyone knows that. Iran has only armed the palestanian and lebanese resistance fighting israel. Hamas and Hezbullah are a clear proof of iran's support to the people of Palestine and Lebanon.

Infact, this new bloc is the last card, effort and last hope of the west against Iran. west is competing to arm this new bloc. and with the grace of almight God this bloc too will be defeated and torn like iraqi ruler saddam.

It is only a false claim that saudi is not supporting terrorists in Afghanistan and Pakistan. This terrorism is a saudi effort to impose a new talibanic terrorist religion in the region under the supervision of usa, that ultimately will be responsible to initiate a fake and engineered Islamic Revolution in chinese muslim dominated areas and threaten Iran's influence in the region, weaken pakistan and hence allowing india to confidentally challange china when needed.

saudi landed in bahrain to save the oppressor and suppress people.

all these policies and war mongering is doomed to fail.

 

[Mosamania]

New bloc???? which new bloc???? it is the same bloc of which saddam was once part of it.

Iran is not war monger. Iran will never invade any country unless attacked and everyone knows that. Iran has only armed the palestanian and lebanese resistance fighting israel. Hamas and Hezbullah are a clear proof of iran's support to the people of Palestine and Lebanon.

Infact, this new bloc is the last card, effort and last hope of the west against Iran. west is competing to arm this new bloc. and with the grace of almight God this bloc too will be defeated and torn like iraqi ruler saddam.

It is only a false claim that saudi is not supporting terrorists in Afghanistan and Pakistan. This terrorism is a saudi effort to impose a new talibanic terrorist religion in the region under the supervision of usa, that ultimately will be responsible to initiate a fake and engineered Islamic Revolution in chinese muslim dominated areas and threaten Iran's influence in the region, weaken pakistan and hence allowing india to confidentally challange china when needed.

saudi landed in bahrain to save the oppressor and suppress people.

all these policies and war mongering is doomed to fail.

Saddam was a US puppet until he got spoiled into thinking he got support to do whatever but he failed. What I meant by a new bloc is a bloc not western neither Iranian. The west is pissed about this new alliances since the west has no control over it.

The west and east is competing to arm this new bloc not just the west buddy. We are arming up from whatever source that can provide better. And Saudi Arabia will never attack first we never did. And Iran has nothing to fear really since we wont attack but what Iran is doing is arming everyone against anybody that does not serve its interest not out of the goodness of their hearts.

They armed the houthis as well whch they wanted to take over yemen with and go against Saudi Arabia which is not very "neutral" and as I said Iran has a few questions to answer regarding this thing when the houthis were ordered by Iran to invade Saudi Arabia so they can test KSA war capabilities on the expense of the poor deceived houthis.

And are you mad by saying that KSA is supporting India?? Throughout history KSA always supported Pakistan but now I feel more sorry for you thinking that KSA is supporting India against pakistan and china. KSA these days are more Chinese aligned than ever.

Saudi Arabia went to Bahrain because they know if Iran got a hold of bahrain then the flood gates of another houthi like war will open.

Iran is not all that is good int he world FYI which you firmly believe. And I proved to you with facts that terrorism is not saudi aided but you keep going to your conspiracy theories for support.

 

[B@KH]

Iran is neutral......(put your proffered rage comic here)

B@KH you are becoming more and more boring with time....I told you KSA opposed Iraq invasion but you still cling to conspiracy theories and one sided articles.
I tell you one more time as long as Iran keeps supporting wars in KSA and keeps spreading hate towards KSA, KSA will have no choice but to look at Iran with a wary look.

Iran announced it is netural and never allowed usa to use it territory to invade its neighbours. while the case is opposite in case of KSA and others.

why you do not accept the truth and reality?

usa invaded Iraq from KSA and Turkey. both cannot lie that they were not part of the usa invasion.

Iran supporting wars in KSA???? LOL I hope one day IRAN will, if saud follow the path of saddam.

 

[Mosamania]

Iran announced it is netural and never allowed usa to use it territory to invade its neighbours. while the case is opposite in case of KSA and others.

why you do not accept the truth and reality?

usa invaded Iraq from KSA and Turkey. both cannot lie that they were not part of the usa invasion.

Iran supporting wars in KSA???? LOL I hope one day IRAN will, if saud follow the path of saddam.

Saudis 'refuse to let America use bases for attacks on Iraq' - Telegraph

Yemen urges Iran to end support for Houthi rebels

 

[Gold1010]

Hezbollah is a shia terrorist group in a country with MANY christians and sunnis i fail to see how it supports the people of Lebanon.

I find it hard to even understand these brainwashed religious nuts.

 

[LeGenD]

USA no longer has bases in the kingdom we opposed the war on Iraq the second time and kicked all their bases out. And when all the world turned its back on Palastine we are the only ones able to stop Israel from annexing the rest of Palastine and yes we attempted recognition of Israel on the term Israel itself refused since we called for all the refugees return.

Really?

US military was not KICKED OUT of the kingdom. US military presence were there for enforcing No-Fly-Zones in Iraq and for preventing any Iraqi misadventure in to the Kingdom as long as Saddam was in power. Once the No-Fly-Zones ended and Iraqi invasion began, there was no need for US military presence in Saudi Arabia. Therefore, according to this DEAL between the kingdom and US; the US military pulled out at the right time.

The deal proved to be beneficial for Saudi interests. Saddam (who was hostile to the kingdom) was removed from power and the kingdom looked innocent after US ended its military presence in Saudi Arabia in the wake of Iraqi invasion.

One must admit, you guys can act smart at the international stage.

However, you guys also demonstrated that for your convenience or policies; you guys are actually capable of joining hands with the DEVIL and seal the fate of others.

Now that Iraq has been done with; Iran is on the pipeline. An advice for your leadership: wake up before it is too late.

 

[Mosamania]

Hezbollah is a shia terrorist group in a country with MANY christians and sunnis i fail to see how it supports the people of Lebanon.

I find it hard to even understand these brainwashed religious nuts.

Hezbollah is not a terrorist group it does not target civilians as a matter of policy but they were labeled terrorist because even the people on the freedom flotilla were labeled terrorists. Any one who opposes Israel is a terrorist....

 

[B@KH]

Saddam was a US puppet until he got spoiled into thinking he got support to do whatever but he failed. What I meant by a new bloc is a bloc not western neither Iranian. The west is pissed about this new alliances since the west has no control over it.

LOL. that is why they are sending huge military supplies to the new emerging bloc.

The west and east is competing to arm this new bloc not just the west buddy. We are arming up from whatever source that can provide better. And Saudi Arabia will never attack first we never did. And Iran has nothing to fear really since we wont attack but what Iran is doing is arming everyone against anybody that does not serve its interest not out of the goodness of their hearts.

OMG. Iran is fearing???? LOL.

this is new bloc is of no worth or threat to Iran. once usa is gone this bloc too will be gone into the dustbin of history.

by the Grace of God, IRAN will be the new super power.

They armed the houthis as well whch they wanted to take over yemen with and go against Saudi Arabia which is not very "neutral" and as I said Iran has a few questions to answer regarding this thing when the houthis were ordered by Iran to invade Saudi Arabia so they can test KSA war capabilities on the expense of the poor deceived houthis.

you seemed to be too afraid of houthis. but houthis performed well against saudis.

KSA supported the enemy of houthis (the government of yemen and puppet of KSA) that was attacking houthis. so it is not fault of iran if houthis successfully challanged ksa.

And are you mad by saying that KSA is supporting India?? Throughout history KSA always supported Pakistan but now I feel more sorry for you thinking that KSA is supporting India against pakistan and china. KSA these days are more Chinese aligned than ever.

saudi is a usa puppet. usa is establishing a new terrorists religion under its supervision to weaken to pakistan and china. usa is badly using saudi in achieving its objective wether it is iran or china.

Saudi Arabia went to Bahrain because they know if Iran got a hold of bahrain then the flood gates of another houthi like war will open.

so you approve that ksa's is authorized to invade other country, save a usa puppet and suppress its people and treat them like dogs to save its own a.s.s.

it is pity that you think Iran cannot create trouble all over saudi cannot arms its allies all over the landscape of the kingdom.

infact saudi is exposed and crime of suppressing another nation are added to its criminal record.

Justice is not far away.

Iran is not all that is good int he world FYI which you firmly believe. And I proved to you with facts that terrorism is not saudi aided but you keep going to your conspiracy theories for support.

LOL. these are just the claims of the usa allies. they are creator and supporter of terrorism.

IRAN is not Good but all of the USA puppets, war mongers of the world and their supporters are good. LOL.

 

[Mosamania]

Really?

US military was not KICKED OUT of the kingdom. US military presence were there for enforcing No-Fly-Zones in Iraq and for preventing any Iraqi misadventure in to the Kingdom. Once the No-Fly-Zones ended and Iraqi invasion began, there was no need for US military presence. Therefore, according to the DEAL between the kingdom and US; the US military pulled out.

The deal proved to be beneficial for Saudi interests. Saddam (who was hostile to the kingdom) was removed from power and the kingdom looked innocent after US ended its military presence in Saudi Arabia.

One must admit, you guys can act smart at the international stage.

So you admit there is no longer a heavy military presence in the kingdom?? Then that was the entire point of my post.

 

[Abii]

Hezbollah is a shia terrorist group in a country with MANY christians and sunnis i fail to see how it supports the people of Lebanon.

I find it hard to even understand these brainwashed religious nuts.

how could Hezbollah be a terrorist group when it has seats in the Lebanese parliament?
Have your brain cells gone on vacation pea brain?

If killing civilians is your problem, then the US and Israel are doing the same on a larger scale. Hezbollah has seats in the same parliament that Christian and sunni groups have seats. Plus, many of their voters aren't even shias but actually sunnis and Christians.

Come back when we start discussing Kangaroos. Maybe then you'll stop talking out of your azz