Iran fires missiles into Indian Ocean

[Abii]

Iran is counting in a missile shower. Which should I say is not a good tactic. It is like relying on Archers to take out an entire army. All bight effective but if the cavalry can rush the archers or your infantry use a very effective shield. Then it is game over for the other army once the arrows run out.

so now a Saudi med student is teaching Iran what is wrong and what is right.
Do you remember our disc regarding the nuke issue? You barely had any idea what a nuke was (bet you don't even know the basic steps behind making a nuke) but you kept talking. Same here.

32 years ago Iran was like KSA. We couldn't even operate an airport control tower but we survived. Trust me, 32 years on, we are a 1000 times more prepared.

The US considers Iran its biggest enemy today but for 32 years it has stayed put. Trust me, if Iran didn't know what it was doing, it would have been attacked a LOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG time ago.

Iran is relying on deterrents that make it costly for the US. We're not trying to beat them on any front because it's impossible. 6000 years of civilization has thought us lots of things. The missile threat, the proxies, the disruption of oil routes, the sleeper cell agents throughout Europe and the Arab world, the invasion of Iraq by Iranian troops (Iraq and the US will never be able to handle a million armed men at this point and if Iran is attacked, we have nothing to lose), the possible attack on Israel with nuke or chem tipped missiles (Iran has chem/bio weapons since 50 years ago and we're a screw away from a nuke) etc... are enough to make it a costly war for the US. Frankly, everybody who knows anything about this whole issue has decided that a future conflict is no longer possible at this point.

 

[Mosamania]

so now a Saudi med student is teaching Iran what is wrong and what is right.
Do you remember our disc regarding the nuke issue? You barely had any idea what a nuke was (bet you don't even know the basic steps behind making a nuke) but you kept talking. Same here.

32 years ago Iran was like KSA. We couldn't even operate an airport control tower but we survived. Trust me, 32 years on, we are a 1000 times more prepared.

The US considers Iran its biggest enemy today but for 32 years it has stayed put. Trust me, if Iran didn't know what it was doing, it would have been attacked a LOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG time ago.

Iran is relying on deterrents that make it costly for the US. We're not trying to beat them on any front because it's impossible. 6000 years of civilization has thought us lots of things. The missile threat, the proxies, the disruption of oil routes, the sleeper cell agents throughout Europe and the Arab world, the invasion of Iraq by Iranian troops (Iraq and the US will never be able to handle a million armed men at this point and if Iran is attacked, we have nothing to lose), the possible attack on Israel with nuke or chem tipped missiles (Iran has chem/bio weapons since 50 years ago and we're a screw away from a nuke) etc... are enough to make it a costly war for the US. Frankly, everybody who knows anything about this whole issue has decided that a future conflict is no longer possible at this point.

Yeah I admit I do not know how to make a nuke but that does not make me ignorant about what a nuke can and can not do. And I also admit it is going to be costly.

And your reference that we can not operate an airport tower speaks volumes of your views. Iran is the one that is considering KSA an enemy and so in return we have no choice but to look at you with wary eyes. And no Iran is still no threat to the USA. Maybe a threat to KSA but not USA.

And by admitting that Iran has sleeper cells in the Arab world you just confirmed that it is up to no good for the Arab world. But rest assured unless Iran backs away from its intent of creating "Persia: The Home Coming" and trying to sell it to the common man as Islamic its entire neighbors are going to look at Iran as a threat to their security.

 

[TARIQ BN ZIYAAD]

assalam alaikum

Brother don't let ppl drag u on every thread and make it saudies vs all muslims
For all of those who wants to share oil money with saudies first tell me before suadies get the oil and these places were in very bad conditions did these ppl share thier wealth with the ppl of saudia?

TARIQ

 

[Abii]

Yeah I admit I do not know how to make a nuke but that does not make me ignorant about what a nuke can and can not do. And I also admit it is going to be costly.

And your reference that we can not operate an airport tower speaks volumes of your views. Iran is the one that is considering KSA an enemy and so in return we have no choice but to look at you with wary eyes. And no Iran is still no threat to the USA. Maybe a threat to KSA but not USA.

I said USA considers Iran an enemy. I didn't say Iran is a threat to the US.

And you made a lot of bold claims. Iran has never made any threatening claims towards KSA, your leaders have. Iran has never asked another nation to attack KSA, your leaders have. Iran has never let other nations use its soil as a lanching ground for invasion of KSA, your country has (regarding Iran). Iran doesn't even consider KSA an enemy but you guys do (your military build up is an obvious reason).

And yes, you can not even operate an airport control tower without foreigners.

And by admitting that Iran has sleeper cells in the Arab world you just confirmed that it is up to no good for the Arab world. But rest assured unless Iran backs away from its intent of creating "Persia: The Home Coming" and trying to sell it to the common man as Islamic its entire neighbors are going to look at Iran as a threat to their security.

lol would a country that was dreaming about creating the same old past destroy the statue of its heroes?

"These statues are Made by Italians 60 years ago from Achaemenid , Parthian , Sassanid soldiers.
The Talibanic regime in Iran believes It is the duty to destroy statues of infidels.
Islamic republic considers Iranian people before Islam as "Barbarians" !!!.

Here you go:

Everything you have said on this site regarding Iran has been total swine excrement my friend. A person who looks at the arab regime of the Islamic republic of Iran and calls it a reincarnation of the good old Parsi empires of the past is obviously delusional.
You have more in common with the mullahs of Iran than I do.

 

[Thomas]

How? Israel has a cutting edge ABM shield. Iranians don't have MIRV, meaning chances of penetrating Israel air defense is very very difficult. The maximum damage Iran's regime (Not smart and open minded Iranians) can cause is destroy US bases in the middle east. But won't that be attacking fellow Islamic countries as well? I wonder what happens to all this religious unity and all that when such saber rattling is done by the regime.

And pray tell me, what was the point of firing the missiles into the ocean? And how exactly does "mouth of Indian Ocean" be just 1,900 Km away from Iran's north (launch point) when the whole length and breadth of India is 5 times that distance itself?

Let them try to destroy Allied bases all they want. All the regional countries have been beefing up their anti-missile defenses. There is massive Aegis BMD coverage of the entire region. It won't be like the Gulf war. Anti missile technology and sensors have made quantum leaps in ability. Currently every aircraft and ballistic missile launched in Iran is seen and tracked. The U.S. 6th fleet also has a permanent duty station off the coast of Lebanon. As part of a multi layered ballistic missile defense. In the event of large volleys of ballistic missiles being fired towards Israel.

Iran can still cause lots of damage. But the overwhelming damage will be against Iran. They would say goodbye to their navy, air force, and a sizable chunk of their army bases. As well as nuke facilities, military manufacturing complexes, and gasoline production.

 

[B@KH]

Then why the Ummah is not coming forward and claim it and convert it into something in the lines of Vatican

as per the sayings of the Holy Prophet (pbuh), Imam Mahdi (a.s) will arrive in mecca and he will restore justice. all muslims agree to this.

while long ago there had been failed effort to convince saudis and make OIC incharge for the Hajj and sacred places but the saud kings assumed the title of khadim(servants) and custodian of holy mosques.

If you believe in the concept of Ummah and Islamic Brotherhood, you should also be ready to share your resources with your brothers....in case of KSA thats oil.

they consider it their property. build palaces of billions in west and keep monies in western banks.

No, not true. The relationship between the two armed forces are the same as that of the US and Israel sort to speak. We have liaison officers there and they have liaison officers here. Pakistanis because of their experience with warfare also provide us training for officers not for grunts.

Pakistan is an usa ally and the last hope for the usa to protect saud.

Yeah I admit I do not know how to make a nuke but that does not make me ignorant about what a nuke can and can not do. And I also admit it is going to be costly.
And your reference that we can not operate an airport tower speaks volumes of your views. Iran is the one that is considering KSA an enemy and so in return we have no choice but to look at you with wary eyes. And no Iran is still no threat to the USA. Maybe a threat to KSA but not USA.
And by admitting that Iran has sleeper cells in the Arab world you just confirmed that it is up to no good for the Arab world. But rest assured unless Iran backs away from its intent of creating "Persia: The Home Coming" and trying to sell it to the common man as Islamic its entire neighbors are going to look at Iran as a threat to their security.

Iran is only a threat to all usa allies and puppets.

Oh I am sorry. So you are entitled of pakistan but we are not entitled of our own country?? Or are you saying that us Saudis are stealing our own oil and we should give it as a freebie to the entire muslim world?? This is exactly why I do not comment on threads not on my country because people like this will derail it as a B@SH party the first second they get.

who is stealing oil? Only the victims of saud in eastern province can tell. Just check with the ones belonging to the eastern province. Oil is not the property of the house of saud. it belongs to the people of eastern province who are being kept worst than dogs while saud steal all of their oil.

assalam alaikum
Brother don't let ppl drag u on every thread and make it saudies vs all muslims
For all of those who wants to share oil money with saudies first tell me before suadies get the oil and these places were in very bad conditions did these ppl share thier wealth with the ppl of saudia?
TARIQ

ws-salam.

This is a valid point as to why the holy lands were kept as desert past 1400 years. while Islam is independent of all and always takes you to the peaks of glory.

another problem is that the people of pakistan are completely kept in blackout vis-a-via the saudi crimes. saud is considered more holy than Islam itself by several. i had a saudi friend and i took him to Faisal Mosque, once we reached there then i informed him that this mosque was built by saud kings. he then refused to enter the mosque. I asked him why? his answer was "... this is our blood...", so the saud kings are busy in looting the oil wealth and have no shame.

 

[B@KH]

Let them try to destroy Allied bases all they want. All the regional countries have been beefing up their anti-missile defenses. There is massive Aegis BMD coverage of the entire region. It won't be like the Gulf war. Anti missile technology and sensors have made quantum leaps in ability. Currently every aircraft and ballistic missile launched in Iran is seen and tracked. The U.S. 6th fleet also has a permanent duty station off the coast of Lebanon. As part of a multi layered ballistic missile defense. In the event of large volleys of ballistic missiles being fired towards Israel.

Iran can still cause lots of damage. But the overwhelming damage will be against Iran. They would say goodbye to their navy, air force, and a sizable chunk of their army bases. As well as nuke facilities, military manufacturing complexes, and gasoline production.

thats true, the war will be damaging and destructuive for both sides.

who will be the winner then? iran is confident of repelling usa invasion.

 

[LeGenD]

thats true, the war will be damaging and destructuive for both sides.

who will be the winner then? iran is confident of repelling usa invasion.

Iran cannot repel US invasion. Iranians should not try to go down that path.

Trust me! Human waves do not work against US. They might have worked against Iraqi military of 1980s but US military is far more formidable in comparison.

 

[harpoon]

Iran cannot repel US invasion. Iranians should not try to go down that path.

Trust me! Human waves do not work against US. They might have worked against Iraqi military of 1980s but US military is far more formidable in comparison.

Iran thinks that locking horns with US is same as fighting incompetent, un-professional Iraqi Army in the 1980s. Big Mistake.

 

[Mosamania]

as per the sayings of the Holy Prophet (pbuh), Imam Mahdi (a.s) will arrive in mecca and he will restore justice. all muslims agree to this.

while long ago there had been failed effort to convince saudis and make OIC incharge for the Hajj and sacred places but the saud kings assumed the title of khadim(servants) and custodian of holy mosques.




they consider it their property. build palaces of billions in west and keep monies in western banks.




Pakistan is an usa ally and the last hope for the usa to protect saud.




Iran is only a threat to all usa allies and puppets.



who is stealing oil? Only the victims of saud in eastern province can tell. Just check with the ones belonging to the eastern province. Oil is not the property of the house of saud. it belongs to the people of eastern province who are being kept worst than dogs while saud steal all of their oil.




ws-salam.

This is a valid point as to why the holy lands were kept as desert past 1400 years. while Islam is independent of all and always takes you to the peaks of glory.

another problem is that the people of pakistan are completely kept in blackout vis-a-via the saudi crimes. saud is considered more holy than Islam itself by several. i had a saudi friend and i took him to Faisal Mosque, once we reached there then i informed him that this mosque was built by saud kings. he then refused to enter the mosque. I asked him why? his answer was "... this is our blood...", so the saud kings are busy in looting the oil wealth and have no shame.

At B@KH......LoL. Nice one with the eastern province remark you only confirmed my doubts of where exactly your allegiance is.

 

[B@KH]

Iran cannot repel US invasion. Iranians should not try to go down that path.

Trust me! Human waves do not work against US. They might have worked against Iraqi military of 1980s but US military is far more formidable in comparison.

Iran thinks that locking horns with US is same as fighting incompetent, un-professional Iraqi Army in the 1980s. Big Mistake.

that is why usa+nato got defeated in Iraq and Afghanistan as they fail to achieve their announced targets. definitely iran is not comparable to iraq or afghanistan. taliban are far poor equipped than iraqi military which received everything from everyone except the nukes. infact iran fought war against the world and not alone against iraq. right from tiny singapore to the country of Ghandhi Jee helped in equipping iraq with chemical weapons.

 

[T-Rex]

Iran thinks that locking horns with US is same as fighting incompetent, un-professional Iraqi Army in the 1980s. Big Mistake.

In the past, North Korea, Vietnam and Cuba locked their horns with the US and all of them are not only standing but two of them are defying the US as we speak, so what's your point?

 

[B@KH]

At B@KH......LoL. Nice one with the eastern province remark you only confirmed my doubts of where exactly your allegiance is.

LOL. you are speechless. everyone knows that saud must give rights to the people of eastern province whose oil wealth they are looting and building palaces and military and enjoying their life. if you have no eastern province then you have no oil and you know it well. My allegiance and sympathy is definitely with the poor people of the eastern province living under brutal oppression of kuffar.

 

[LeGenD]

that is why usa+nato got defeated in Iraq and Afghanistan as they fail to achieve their announced targets.

You need some serious reality check.

US has succeeded in Iraq; (1) removed Saddam from power and eliminated him, (2) tolerated Iraqi resistance, (3) installed a friendly government, (4) ensured that USD would remain the preferred reserve currency of Iraq, and (5) has plans for keeping some permanent military bases over there just like in Japan and Germany. In this manner, US can keep an eye on other players in the Middle-East.

The afghan conflict will continue till 2014. We will see what happens till that time. US is making a smart move by giving Taliban a representation in Afghan government. However, Al-qaeda network is in bad shape. and OBL is gone. So situation is not very hopeless.

definitely iran is not comparable to iraq or afghanistan.

Every nation is different from the other. I see no logic in these kinds of statements.

taliban are far poor equipped than iraqi military which received everything from everyone except the nukes.

Taliban is a different kind of force. It has ideological roots in the Afghan society. And Taliban has deep knowledge of Afghan territory. These advantages cannot be easily negated.

infact iran fought war against the world and not alone against iraq. right from tiny singapore to the country of Ghandhi Jee helped in equipping iraq with chemical weapons.

Iran mainly faced Iraqi military of the 1980s in combat during the Iran-Iraq war. However, Iraqi military demonstrated better performance then Iranian military. It was the famed human wave tactics that worked in Iranian favor and forced Iraq to take desperate measures. Iranian bravey is certainly commendable.

Unfortunately, huge number of muslims perished in that war and all that blood was lost in vain as the war resulted in a stalemate.

Iran also briefly faced US military in combat during that war; Operation Praying Mantis

It seems as if Iran wanted to test US capabilities and the move seriously backfired. The OPM played a role in forcing Iran on the negotiation table with Iraq to end the war.

 

[Ahmad Abdullah Ravian]

this smells iran is too smart!

and i do no think they are going to conifrm it so easily.

Not more then Pakistan Smart in Nuclear Program